Does the toilet lady's boyfriend desire this? ...Charges filed against boyfriend of woman stuck on toilet

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    Mar 20, 2008 1:27 PM GMT
    Story Highlights:

    Boyfriend of woman stuck on toilet for two years charged with mistreatment

    Pam Babcock sat on toilet for so long sores began to develop, police say

    Infection in her legs could leave her in wheelchair

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/03/20/woman.bathroom.ap/index.html
  • ShawnTX

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    Mar 20, 2008 2:27 PM GMT
    Obviously she has some psychological issues that need to be worked out, but I'm sure if she really wanted to leave the bathroom she would have.

    I don't understand how he never called somebody, anybody, for help, advice, etc., but he wasn't forcing her to live in the bathroom, that was her choice.

    I'd imagine she will testify on his behalf, and for his sake, he is found not guilty.
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    Mar 20, 2008 2:37 PM GMT
    i dunno...

    he was fairly negligent in not calling anyone. if i saw someone with a broken leg and they were all "oh no worries, i think i'm just gonna let this one heal itself" and hobble off home, i'd make a call.

    unless he thought she was running marathons while he was at work, i think he's to blame to a certain extent because she obviously couldn't help herself.
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    Mar 20, 2008 3:16 PM GMT
    I meant "deserve" this in the title. Obviously, he doesnt "desire" this.

    Is mine the only brain that just types a totally word out of the blue? I guess my wrong word did start off like the right word....maybe my brain was just moving on before the word got finished.
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    Mar 20, 2008 3:20 PM GMT
    I guess it is also a case of she obviously wasnt make a rational decision, so he should have stepped in.

    However, we dont hold people responsible to step in.

    And in cases you cant step in. Wacko people that are no danger cannot be committed without their consent. A wacko family member cannot be committed without his/her consent. My mother had to trick her schizophrenic brother into committing himself by faking a call from the president and then telling him the president wanted him to go to the hospital.

    So why shouldnt that apply to this case.
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    Mar 20, 2008 3:26 PM GMT
    I wonder how stupid someone has to be to stay sitting on a toilet for two+ years? I mean, if the guy had a job she could've left the damn bathroom, or she could've at least gotten up and walked around or sat on the sink or in the tub... seriously, how stupid? Maybe they never learned what the number 911 meant in the two years they were playing musical chairs... which begs the question... how did this guy ever manage to go the bathroom with her on it 24/7? I'm hoping there was at least another 1/2 bath in the house; otherwise I don't I even want to imagine how he disposed of his bodily waste!
  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 20, 2008 3:27 PM GMT
    I expected there to be some "Kansas" comment since it happened out in Ness County (which is in west central Kansas).

    It was reported this morning she had been there two months... earlier it had been two years.

    You never know where weird things are going to present themselves.....
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    Mar 20, 2008 3:33 PM GMT
    kidcourageous1348 saidI wonder how stupid someone has to be to stay sitting on a toilet for two+ years?


    It's not a case of stupidity on her part. It is a case of mental illness.

    Now one could prolly make a really good case of stupidity on his part
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    Mar 20, 2008 3:35 PM GMT
    I hope I never have kids that grow up stupid and allow something like this or worse to happen to someone whose unable to take care of themselves...
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    Mar 20, 2008 4:06 PM GMT
    My thing is: if she's considered mentally ill for wanting to stay on the toilet for two years, is he not also mentally ill for letting her stay there? I understand she might be truly diagnosable - but something has to be wrong with him too, right?

    ...or maybe he just liked having someone to talk to when he took a shower? I know I wouldn't mind a helping hand when I'm doing sudoku in the bath.
  • ShawnTX

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    Mar 20, 2008 4:16 PM GMT
    PhxAriz08 said[quote][cite]Caslon said[/cite]Story Highlights:

    Boyfriend of woman stuck on toilet for two years charged with mistreatment

    Pam Babcock sat on toilet for so long sores began to develop, police say

    Infection in her legs could leave her in wheelchair

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/03/20/woman.bathroom.ap/index.html


    Yeah I have heard of this story before. I still don't understand why her boyfriend get charged for?? She is the one that want to stay in the toilet for two years. She deserve to be in jail, not her boyfriend. [/quote]

    I don't think monopolizing the toilet is a criminal offense.
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    Mar 20, 2008 4:21 PM GMT
    innerathlete saidI know I wouldn't mind a helping hand when I'm doing sudoku in the bath.


    How do you keep the water from splashing on the puzzle? Every time I move even slightly in the bathtub, my rubber duckie bounces up and down and makes a terrible mess.
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    Mar 20, 2008 4:28 PM GMT
    If I am going to read or do something like sudoku in the tub, I just fill it up halfway and bend my knees so that they (and my lower thighs) stay above water and use them as a "desk." Then, when I am done, I fill up the tub the rest of the way and submerge!

    ...I am suddenly feeling like this is way TMI for a public forum. icon_redface.gif
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    Mar 20, 2008 5:06 PM GMT
    innerathlete saidIf I am going to read or do something like sudoku in the tub, I just fill it up halfway and bend my knees so that they (and my lower thighs) stay above water and use them as a "desk." Then, when I am done, I fill up the tub the rest of the way and submerge!

    ...I am suddenly feeling like this is way TMI for a public forum. icon_redface.gif


    I cant make a mental image of what you mean. Could you post a photo ... icon_biggrin.gif ... icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 20, 2008 5:10 PM GMT
    This may be the most twisted story of the decadeicon_eek.gif
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    Mar 20, 2008 5:13 PM GMT
    Luckydog76 saidThis may be the most twisted story of the decadeicon_eek.gif


    This better not be a sign of where society is going... last thing I want to do is be looking back in 10 years wondering why I didn't see 'it' coming earlier. But I guess this is just what happens to the weakest in a society where you only watch out for yourself and nothing really matters - generally.
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    Mar 20, 2008 5:19 PM GMT
    Ah, Caslon, you know I'm an absolute Chrissy Snow when it comes to the self-timer on my camera - why don't you just come over and I'll give you a personalized tutorial icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 20, 2008 5:40 PM GMT
    it could probably be argued that she was causing herself harm. risk of injury, risk of disease, risk of whatever. seriously, at least HAD he called someone, police, psychiatrist, even his neighbor, someone coulda seen something strange was going down.
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    Mar 20, 2008 5:45 PM GMT
    innerathlete saidAh, Caslon, you know I'm an absolute Chrissy Snow when it comes to the self-timer on my camera - why don't you just come over and I'll give you a personalized tutorial icon_wink.gif


    I am in your bathroom now...where are you? ... icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 20, 2008 5:50 PM GMT
    Oh, I'm still at Home Depot buying the stage lights, curtain pulleys and a few sturdy 2x4's, then it's off to MAC for some foundation - I take my tutorials very seriously!
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    Mar 20, 2008 9:06 PM GMT
    Hi, Caslon, I appreciate you spotlighting stories like this that clearly star the underdogs of our society. These people do things that are just so irrational it boggles the mind, but they are people just like us, which means we are all capable of doing the inconceivable things they do? Aaaaauuurrrgh, I guess that sounds good.

    However, I feel a bit guilty in regards to this particular story because I laughed really hard when I read it. The mental imagery was just too comical. I mean "stuck on the toilet" LOL, that is life imitating theatre right there and being funnier. On top of that, this bitch needs to reveal her secrets! I mean she managed to keep a man for longer than a month and she was stuck on a toilet! However, i'm confused...the boyfriend said she may have been toilet bound for two years so how did he meet her?

    Gosh, but I feel for him, because I know when I date a man, I try to give him whatever he wants. I spoil my men, but THIS is just ridiculous. However, I don't agree he should be charged. She chose to stay there. He's better than me, i'da dumped her ass.
  • dhinkansas

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    Mar 20, 2008 9:11 PM GMT
    I think the parties involved had some degree of mental challenges, so the man may not have had the mental where-with-all to contact the authorities.
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    Mar 20, 2008 10:56 PM GMT
    jms84 saidi dunno...

    he was fairly negligent in not calling anyone. if i saw someone with a broken leg and they were all "oh no worries, i think i'm just gonna let this one heal itself" and hobble off home, i'd make a call.

    unless he thought she was running marathons while he was at work, i think he's to blame to a certain extent because she obviously couldn't help herself.

    So what you are saying, you would feel a duty of care..
    If my house mate had his way. He would sit on the toilet all day, playing sudoku..... He is happy there. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 23, 2008 1:35 AM GMT
    For some reason our society seems hell bent on finding someone to "BLAME" for every incident, hense the prosecuter looked for a way to blame the guy for her ignorant actions. Honestly though, I have been caregiver as parent, and for elderly relatives, I would not have allowed anyone in my care to sit on the toilet for even a full day if I could possibly stop it let alone long enough for her to become basicly glued to the seat from an infection. Truth be told, both this lady and her boyfriend are "A FEW BRICKS SHY OF A FULL LOAD" so it really serves no good purpose to charge him with the results of her own actions.
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    Mar 23, 2008 1:44 AM GMT
    They are both at fault. She's at fault for being on toilet for so long that she couldn't even get up which would beg to ask why.

    He's at fault for noticing it and not doing anything about it. That's clearly a case of negligence that could;ve resulted in a far worse scenrio then what happened. If she was clearly incapable in making a sound decision for herself then he should've stepped in and did something about it, which he didn't, and as a result went on for two years.

    One's considered a nutjob and the other just seems like an insentive neglectful prick.