85% of all fights end on the ground, you need more than just punching and blocking skills to survive in a real world fight.
BUT... that's nothing i haven't told you in personal e mails love HA HA HA HA
PS More gay guys should at least box! I've always everyone should get in two fights in thier life, one they lose, and one they win. Nothing is a reality check like getting the snot beat outta you... or beating the snot outta someone else.
Ive said the same thing!! I would love to learn to box or even just go to a boxing gym to work out. I love the atmoshphere and etc. Nothing like that around here.
I've taken a few boxing classes and plan to take it up again once I've met my workout goals. I would join a gay boxing gym in a heartbeat. I've found that (out here in LA, at least) boxing gyms tend to be more old-school mens' clubs where the owner once coached someone who was actually there when Jimmy TwoTimes beat the odds and knocked out Ralph the Monster back in '58.
StripperRocco saidBecause boxing is limiting...fights end on the ground, you need more than just punching and blocking skills to survive in a real world fight.
I agree.
As a sport and exercise, boxing is great, and I love sparring with boxers to work on my hands.
For self defense, though, I now rely almost exclusively on my charming personality and disarming wit. Hey, I'm not pretty, so what have I got?
mickeytopogigio said[quote][cite]StripperRocco said[/cite]Because boxing is limiting...fights end on the ground, you need more than just punching and blocking skills to survive in a real world fight.
I agree.
As a sport and exercise, boxing is great, and I love sparring with boxers to work on my hands.
For self defense, though, I now rely almost exclusively on my charming personality and disarming wit. Hey, I'm not pretty, so what have I got?[/quote]
85% of all fights end on the ground, you need more than just punching and blocking skills to survive in a real world fight.
In my experience a good air battle prevents a ground one. Most people get discouraged by good blocking and a few punches to the face - so much so that they run. It's the big corn fed ones that always try to tackle you to the ground. In my neighborhood most of the guys are skinny out of shape rednecks, so they run.
I love boxing. Was doing it for a couple of years, but then the gym closed. So still trying to find on in Greater Cleveland. Sucks. Was a great workout and felt awesome after we'd train.
85% of all fights end on the ground, you need more than just punching and blocking skills to survive in a real world fight.
In my experience a good air battle prevents a ground one. Most people get discouraged by good blocking and a few punches to the face - so much so that they run. It's the big corn fed ones that always try to tackle you to the ground. In my neighborhood most of the guys are skinny out of shape rednecks, so they run.
Yeah but how many people actually know what they are doing on their feet OR when encountered with a fight are in the state of mind where they can stay on their feet. Clearly your experience and mine are not within that 85%.
85% of all fights end on the ground, you need more than just punching and blocking skills to survive in a real world fight.
BUT... that's nothing i haven't told you in personal e mails love HA HA HA HA
PS More gay guys should at least box! I've always everyone should get in two fights in thier life, one they lose, and one they win. Nothing is a reality check like getting the snot beat outta you... or beating the snot outta someone else.
I agree every guy should lose a good fight once....just once. I did get the shit kicked out of me once, and through that, I took boxing lessons and learned over the summer that year - how to fight. When I got back to school in September we had a rematch. This time I prevailed. That was sweet!
boxed up to middle school. I think the weight requirements start interfering as you get older
I'm the short and have a solid build, so tended to end up fighting guys with arm reaches twice mine. That when I decided this was as far as I would go.
Have good friends who have won world and olympic titles and you can't find a better working than boxing. Boxing workouts were HITT before the term was thought off
Love boxing, also tae kwon do, taught tkd for a while, and had grappling, hapkido, eskrima, and staff arts in the same school, along with some private boxing lessons. When you combine the different skills, you can do well standing and on the ground.
I started boxing in 2006 when I heard about Kevin Aviance getting beat up and also hearing other gay men get beat up just for being a faggot. I knew I had to learn to defend myself and also it's a sport I've wanted to do since I was a little boy.
I work my ass off. I have to! Since I'm the only gay guy in the class, I work twice as hard.
SoDakGuy saidI'm job searching in DC and Chicago and I'm trying to find boxing gyms to join. Hell, I naively thought there may be a gay boxing group in those cities.
Boy, I'm wrong!
So ... why aren't gay guys learning to box? You really do learn a lot about yourself and you are pushed to your limits every damn day.
Also, the boxing skills do come in handy when you are jumped on your bike.
So ... why aren't any of you (not all, but most) taking up boxing?
Boxing is great. It's a great way to get rid of aggresion and anger in a controlled arena. Boxing helps me relax.
I used to get in fights...yes...sometimes i got the worst beeting, but other times I creamed the othetr guy. It's a great feeling
The main goal is NOT to get hit, but you will get hit. You learn how to take a hit and throw one too at your opponent.
I do have some great news. My boxing coach (and this is if I stay in Minneapolis) wants me to help him teach boxing to kids. I'm honored and flattered to be asked. I really do love this sport.
Well, I busted someone's nose last night in boxing class.
He got my right hook into his nose and it was bleeding A LOT! It didn't look pretty at all. He went to the ER last night, so I'll know if it is TRULY busted or not.
So, I've cracked someone's rib and broke another guy's nose.
SoDakGuy: I couldn't agree with you more, mate. You've got it in one. And by taking on "straight" blokes in boxing and combat sports and showing that we can hold our own is going to do more to get us accepted and overcome prejudice than any politically minded anti-homophobia campaign ever will. - they just make things worse.
I would love to see some "out" pro boxers but it's not going to happen unless lads like us get the gloves on and go to the boxing gyms around the world and mix with other fighters and show that we are "normal" blokes just like them, that we can laugh and indulge in the locker room banter and still do the business when the bell goes. They will then feel more comfortable about being open about their own curiosity. Guys in wrestling have done it. Look at Simon Sermon. The same with UFC. Shad Smith has come out. That takes a lot of courage and good on the guy. There will be more because of him.
If any of you lads has fancied having a go at boxing then go for it. Why let yourself be put of by protential prejudice. I've boxed as a kid and it's a real buzz. We've only got ourselves to blame if we sit by and do nothing.
M...M...A... or more specifically UFC/Pride Fighting.
This is Georges St-Pierre. He's my personal Favorite
Gotta say if I had the choice, and was comfortable putting on contacts (funny I can reach into a dogs mouth and pull out a toy but I can't put a piece of plastic on my eye...)it would absolutely be MMA - hands down. Main reason being the ability to learn so many different styles of combat - kick boxing to jiu jitsu to boxing and wrestling...all a part.
So, I'll be able to spar w/ other guys at other gyms and finally get into amateur fights.
We did go back to sparring, but I held back since I was fighting the same guy I broke his nose. He was wailing on me, but I know I could do a lot more damage to him than just breaking his nose.
My gym is FINALLY offering boxing classes and i just signed up! I don't know about the actual fighting part, but the training should be awesome! I don't even know if it'll be one-on-one or group or if any 'boxing' will even take place, but i'm having visions of some of those training sequences in the Rocky movies and am really looking forward to getting in better shape thru boxing training.
Huge fan of boxing, though I hate the state of pro boxing now. Would rather watch mma, UFC, WEC. Pro boxing sucks with too many organizations and too few really good fighters.
I boxed in High School and college. I still hold my HS record for going 4 years undefeated but only because they stopped HS boxing a few years after I graduated. But still, it was around for 20 years or so, so I am proud of the record. Tough sport. Just you and another guy, no team around to help you out, and your whole HS is watching you alone in the ring with a guy trying to kill you. Fear is a big motivator. But I loved hitting and risking getting hit. Give your best and take your opponents best. Fits my personality...lol.
Still use boxing-style training for fitness, but I think the reason I don't fight anymore is that it is hard to hold a meeting with executives the next day with a shiner or broken nose. Bad for business, Fight Club be damned. Been in some bar fights, won some and probably lost a few more than I want to remember, but I know that I can take care of myself either way.
I started MMA/Ultimate Fighting - mostly Muay Thai and Brazilian Jujitsu. WAY more stimulating. Plus, boxing attacks the substancia nigra of the brain and is the main causal factor for Parkinson's (i.e., Muhammed Ali). I like my brain.
Muay Thai and Kickboxing. I'm a little nervous to start grappling with the guys cause they don't know i'm gay, and i don't plan to tell them... Should i be ashamed of myself??? I certainly don't want to make them uncomfortable.
I enjoy it overall, though I can't say I'd make it very far professionally lol. I don't really know how to articulate my feelings about it. To me it is a way of acknowledging my own primal masculinity. There is something that feels "right" about it to me.
One reason I think that many people do not take up boxing is that the sport is not as easy as most would think. To be a good boxer takes a lot of skill, training and fitness. Boxing is not a part-time sport it becomes part of your life. It is not something you can pick up quickly as a hobby unless you are a very tallented sportsman; you need to train at least five times a week.
Before I began boxing I was a timmid and introverted person, boxing has helped me to find my courage in life.
Roberts85 saidMuay Thai and Kickboxing. I'm a little nervous to start grappling with the guys cause they don't know i'm gay, and i don't plan to tell them... Should i be ashamed of myself??? I certainly don't want to make them uncomfortable.
No you should NEVER be ashamed, plus you are in there to kick their ass!!
Roberts85 saidMuay Thai and Kickboxing. I'm a little nervous to start grappling with the guys cause they don't know i'm gay, and i don't plan to tell them... Should i be ashamed of myself??? I certainly don't want to make them uncomfortable.
I feel ya. I've been doing boxing/Muay Thai for just over 2 years now and would really like to do BJJ but am a bit nervous about grappling with the other guys. One of my friends is friends with a guy at the gym and apparently he was asking if she knew if I was gay or not because I don't talk about women all the time like the other guys. I think they may suspect. Makes me feel nervous... and a part of me is ashamed because I'm proud of who I am and how far I've come in life, yet for whatever reason I have to go back in the closet when I walk through the gym doors
Roberts85 saidMuay Thai and Kickboxing. I'm a little nervous to start grappling with the guys cause they don't know i'm gay, and i don't plan to tell them... Should i be ashamed of myself??? I certainly don't want to make them uncomfortable.
Don't tell them, but you don't need to be ashamed. It's not like you're there to hook up or get sexual gratification, you're there for the sport. When I roll I'm there for business, for fun, and for working out; no other reasons.
Granted, I was highly attracted to one guy at my last gym who I rolled with every day (I have self control so I don't have to worry about popping a bone) and we became extremely close friends. To this day he does not know that I'm gay and don't plan on telling him, why ruin a great thing? (And yes, it will probably become uncomfortable a bit if you were to come out)
As for boxing; my nose has been broken enough in MMA fights, thanks anyway.
If someone starts a gay Muay Thai gym I would join. Boxing, maybe as well. I'm sure its productive and probably fun. If you're of the mindset that the mental and physical conditioning are good for you, any defensive training or martial arts can be fascinating. As far as self-defense, these days, thats kevlar and a 9mm. At least in my "'hood". Fight back, shoot back, but never just go down like a pussy, thats my belief. Thug culture has made it so. Let me step off the soapbox, before I get too preachy.
There are five confirmed mo's at my boxing/mma gym in Chicago. We're all friends and joined together. And although its predominantly straight (I'm guessing) sexuality just doesn't come up when you're throwing a punch. And if it did, well all the more reason to hit harder
crtrainer saidI just started & It's great - I take a one hour session every week & at the end I'm drenched and centered. Hell yes I wish I'd started sooner - all my other workouts are improved because of it. It raised the bar for me because I know I can reach that level of stamina/exertion with all my training. If I could be a kid again I'd get into all kinds of MMA - but better late than never. I'm pumped about training again -
How long are your sessions? I've been getting into it myself but unsure if I'm overdoing it or not. I go to a Boxing Sweat class on Saturday mornings but at least 3 times a week I spend 30 minutes doing boxing circuits.
My reasons for not boxing: 1. I already know how to defend myself. 2. I don't relish the thought of getting beat up or beating someone else up just for the hell of it. 3. I have great insurance and I want to keep it that way. 4. Muhammed Ali's current condition. Nuff said.
1. Good for you! 2. It's an amazing workout and you don't need to be in a ring to learn to box. MANY people take cardio boxing and boxing to be in peak condition. 3. I do too. 4. Muhammed Ali has Parkinson's disease. It was not because of his boxing. A stupid misconception that you will get Parkinson's from boxing.
ErikTaurean saidMy reasons for not boxing: 1. I already know how to defend myself. 2. I don't relish the thought of getting beat up or beating someone else up just for the hell of it. 3. I have great insurance and I want to keep it that way. 4. Muhammed Ali's current condition. Nuff said.
Ah its because of MMA, though we do boxing as well, it helps with striking, but MMA has finally now become a big thing, and is even starting to become legal in more states.
Rad_d81 saidAh its because of MMA, though we do boxing as well, it helps with striking, but MMA has finally now become a big thing, and is even starting to become legal in more states.
SoDakGuy said1. Good for you! 2. It's an amazing workout and you don't need to be in a ring to learn to box. MANY people take cardio boxing and boxing to be in peak condition. 3. I do too. 4. Muhammed Ali has Parkinson's disease. It was not because of his boxing. A stupid misconception that you will get Parkinson's from boxing.
ErikTaurean saidMy reasons for not boxing: 1. I already know how to defend myself. 2. I don't relish the thought of getting beat up or beating someone else up just for the hell of it. 3. I have great insurance and I want to keep it that way. 4. Muhammed Ali's current condition. Nuff said.
It has been medically confirmed that his motor functions are diminished because of this boxing and the multiple shots he took to the head. His parkinsons is another matter entirely. For those want to box and/or keep boxing, more power to you. I, however, have no desire to do it.
Probably because since I was 12 I've been trained in Boxing, American Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Tae Kwon Do, Submission Wrestling, Jiu Jitsu (with and without gi), Isshin-ryu Karate and Aikido Yoshokai.
And I find boxing to be the most boring/useless of all of them. Why the hell would you only use your fists as a weapon when your entire body can be used? Its just plain lazy and inefficient.
SoDakGuy saidI'm job searching in DC and I'm trying to find boxing gyms to join. Hell, I naively thought there may be a gay boxing group in those cities.
Boy, I'm wrong!
So ... why aren't gay guys learning to box? You really do learn a lot about yourself and you are pushed to your limits every damn day.
Also, the boxing skills do come in handy when you are jumped on your bike.
So ... why aren't any of you (not all, but most) taking up boxing?
Brain injury is a drag. Banging up a perfectly good face isn't very bright.
I LOVE boxing, I've been taking boxing classes for over a year now. A point that seems to be missed here is that not all boxing has to be full contact. I would NEVER enter a situation where I'm inviting someone to punch me in the face, not only am *I* incredibly fond of it but there is a great number of other people who are too.
Boxing allows for a great upper body workout and there is a practical street application to knowing how to throw a fast and powerful jab or hook to the head.
I'm far from butch, and I certainly don't start fights. But *I am* the pretty boy that finishes them and doesn't need to be protected.
As a guy of diminutive stature, controlled sparring does amazing things for one's confidence and self esteem. Having the confidence of ensuring my own safety in social settings of any kind (be they gay bars or biker bars) has allowed my personality to blossom.
I'd highly suggest any lessons that teachs a person how to deal with physical confrontation.
85% of all fights end on the ground, you need more than just punching and blocking skills to survive in a real world fight.
BUT... that's nothing i haven't told you in personal e mails love HA HA HA HA
PS More gay guys should at least box! I've always everyone should get in two fights in thier life, one they lose, and one they win. Nothing is a reality check like getting the snot beat outta you... or beating the snot outta someone else.
I agree every guy should lose a good fight once....just once. I did get the shit kicked out of me once, and through that, I took boxing lessons and learned over the summer that year - how to fight. When I got back to school in September we had a rematch. This time I prevailed. That was sweet!
F*** that! There's no point to purposely starting a fight just to lose, that's just a stupid Fight Club-ish idea.
There ARE no merits to losing a fight. The whole point in becoming strong is so you don't have to taste defeat to begin with. Not to let someone pound on your face anyway.
SoDakGuy saidYou wear head gear. Your brain is protected.
Don't believe it. The brain is like jelly. Everytime it slams up against the cranium it bruises and swells, what's commonly called a concussion.
Over time this affects the parts of the brain that are the closest to the surface, those that regulate motor skills and judgement.
All headgear does is prevent any one particular blow from being fatal. It doesn't mitigate the long-term effects of repeated battering of the brain against the skull.
If there is a stupider sport, I can't think of it. Oh, maybe I can: fox-hunting. As one wag said, "Foxhunting is the unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible."
StripperRocco saidBecause boxing is limiting...fights end on the ground, you need more than just punching and blocking skills to survive in a real world fight.
I agree.
As a sport and exercise, boxing is great, and I love sparring with boxers to work on my hands.
For self defense, though, I now rely almost exclusively on my charming personality and disarming wit. Hey, I'm not pretty, so what have I got?
You may not be pretty, but your handsome & hot at hell.
Boxing is built upon respect for your opponent. Its never a good fight if one is way more experienced than the other. I am a boxer, I am gay...a typical gay man; which means I am not overly masculine, nor do I want to even try to be. My point is....you dont have to be a brut to kick someones butt. And why in the world would you want to kick someone's butt? To save your own of course.
There is still alot of hate in our community, alot of predjudice and sexualracism to combat.
This is an excellent forum to have.
Boxing is one of the only sports left to emasculate, so I am glad to put on a pair of gloves and go head to head with another guy. This doesnt prove that I am stronger necessarily if i win; maybe I just trained harder or danced better. But what it does prove is that I am not afraid and that masculinity does not make the man.
btw - Freddie Mercury was a boxer in his youth...with a strong left hook.