DADT REPEALED BITCHES!!!

  • Space_Cowboy_...

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    Dec 18, 2010 7:14 PM GMT
    Breaking news: "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" repeal has just cleared its last congressional hurdle.

    This discriminatory law will be relegated to the dustbin of history. This stain on our nation will be lifted forever. And you made it happen.

    Today, America lived up to its highest ideals of freedom and equality. Today, our federal government recognized that ALL men and women have the right to openly serve the country they believe in. That it doesn't matter who you are, or who you love – you are not a second-class citizen.

    Think of the kids out there tonight, watching this on the news – kids who are bullied for being different, who live in fear daily that their parents will hate them if they find out the truth... Think of the relief, the empowerment, the sense of possibility they'll feel, knowing that the U.S. military has said: if you're lesbian or gay, you are worthy. We want you to join us, side by side, as equals.

    Think of the people across the globe – some in countries where it is literally a life-or-death decision to come out as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender – who will hear this news and know we're one step closer toward a world where no one needs to live in fear because of who they are.

    And take a moment to truly comprehend the lives ruined over the last 17 years because of this discriminatory law. The soldiers, sailors, airmen, translators, doctors and more, whose military careers were ended, whose livelihoods were threatened, whose friendships were cut off, all because the forces of bigotry and fear held out for so long.

    They can never get those years back. But I hope they know that their sacrifice meant something. Their courage and integrity helped a nation understand what it means to serve. And that, more than anything else, helped bring about this historic change.

    With your help, we've spent 17 years fighting for this moment. I cannot thank you enough for the dedication you've shown to get us here. Here's a brief snapshot of what you helped HRC do to win this.

    Senators Joe Lieberman and Susan Collins have been our steadfast champions in this fight. Here's what Senator Lieberman said today that shows how your energy, your drive, your commitment and your focus have been behind every single step: "This historic day has been seventeen years in the making and would not have happened without the leadership of Joe Solmonese and the Human Rights Campaign."

    We did it. Together. Thank you.
  • Space_Cowboy_...

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    Dec 18, 2010 7:14 PM GMT
    Thought, Comments, Concerns?
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    Dec 18, 2010 7:18 PM GMT
    See the thread "DADT-" for my concerns.

    I am gonna wait to see how it all shakes out. We have had our hopes raised and dashed too many times. I gotta see the final military plans and action.

    Is that Marine commander just going to declare that it interfere with combat readiness and refuse to implement? Will O order him to implement? Or us this whole effort gonna be left in a bureaucrat tangle and never see the light of day?

    I dont trust O and the Dems one bit anymore.

    I hope the court cases go forward and there is an indisputable declaration of the unconstitutionality of this policy.
  • Space_Cowboy_...

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    Dec 18, 2010 7:19 PM GMT
    Been there done that ;)
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    Dec 18, 2010 8:01 PM GMT
    I have faith that our gay Bro's n Gals will make us proud, hoping there's very few instances where a gay comes on to a straight, thereby asking for a black eye. LOL !!! Also hope that there's few instances of straights giving hell to a gay and thereby asking for his eye to be blacked. Afterall our Bro's are tougher aren't they.
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    Dec 18, 2010 8:03 PM GMT
    watching the vote now - it is about to occur (the formality of the actual vote o the bill.)

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    Dec 18, 2010 8:28 PM GMT
    Space_Cowboy_89 saidThink of the people across the globe – some in countries where it is literally a life-or-death decision to come out as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender – who will hear this news and know we're one step closer toward a world where no one needs to live in fear because of who they are.


    Sorry, I don't think this has as much global significance as you say. To me it seems like America is way behind on this issue and just starting to catch up when Britain allowed gays to serve in its military over a decade ago.

    See here, for an article from 2007 exploring this issue - in that year, 24 countries had allowed homosexuals to serve openly: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/16/world/europe/16iht-gays.4.5740115.html

    I don't mean to denigrate the importance of this issue for everyone from the US, and I truly hope that the repeal passes as a strong message to every American citizen, no matter their orientation, that the old ways of treating people who are different are dying out.
  • Webster666

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    Dec 18, 2010 8:29 PM GMT
    Senator John McCain can kiss my pink ass !
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    Dec 18, 2010 8:30 PM GMT
    CONGRATULATIONS AMERICA!!!

    This is a very moving moment for even for this Canadian cousin to witness this GREAT STEP FORWARD FOR EQUALITY RIGHTS.

    Momentum is so on our side now icon_biggrin.gif

    I really did not think DADT would be repealed in this sitting


    I will now take great delight in listening to the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the opponents of equality.

    It is truly unexpected that |Sen Lieberman should have been our champion on this issue.

    As i type this the vote is only 7 minutes from completion, and I feel an inexplicable rush of exctement to see our allies join the other nations who allow openly gay soldiers serve proudly and honestly

    One of the bastions of traditional "manhood" has caught up with the times, and I am finally confident that marriage rights will follow.

    We are no longer "lesser" or "the Other."



    I will not gloat publicly at Mr McCain (but you can be certain that I take great delight in seeing this fossil fall before history. I hopehe does not get apoplectic and explode - off camera.

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    It is NOW DONE with a final vote on DADT repeal of 65 yea 31 nay



    6 Republicans joined the vote on cloture and they deserve our heartfelt thanks.:

    (perhaps they decided late to get their names in on the "winning side" for posterity's sake.





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    Dec 18, 2010 8:33 PM GMT
    I'm actually a bit teary
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    Dec 18, 2010 8:33 PM GMT
    6 Republicans.

    6.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 18, 2010 8:34 PM GMT
    Pay no mind to Senator John McCain. That man has been recycling the same old excuses for opposing repeal of DADT. What else is new, the aging, hypocritical asshole will do anything to score points with the right wing lunatics. It is just the same old blah blah blah with McCain so I don't pay any attention to him. I am thankful that he is not my US Senator.
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    Dec 18, 2010 8:34 PM GMT
    FINALLY!!! icon_biggrin.gif
    Moving forward gentlemen...
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    Dec 18, 2010 8:34 PM GMT
    Crazy awesome!
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Dec 18, 2010 8:36 PM GMT
    UpperCanadian saidI'm actually a bit teary
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    Me too!!!! I wish we were all in the same room to celebrate together. icon_lol.gif
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 18, 2010 8:37 PM GMT
    This is long overdue.
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    Dec 18, 2010 8:40 PM GMT
    Jeez, for toting equality and liberty for all, America still has ways to go. but I'm proud for the step, long overdue, but glad to have it taken .
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    Dec 18, 2010 8:43 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    UpperCanadian saidI'm actually a bit teary
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    Me too!!!! I wish we were all in the same room to celebrate together. icon_lol.gif


    In a sense we are. icon_biggrin.gif

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    Dec 18, 2010 8:43 PM GMT
    Well done and congratulations to all Americans icon_smile.gif

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    Dec 18, 2010 8:46 PM GMT
    Congrats to the American Men and Women who serve the USA with pride and pride of their orientation.

    Now please don't nuke Pakistan!! LOLicon_lol.gif
  • mybud

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    Dec 18, 2010 8:46 PM GMT
    The last two year have been hard...for me and others...But I have to say...today I'm truly proud to be an American....Now our gay brothers and sisters can serve with honor.....Now is the time for gay's to get more involved in the political process....This wall has fallen....Next... our civil rights....This is a note for our younger gay brothers on rj......look up to those older members and thank them...respect them.........They blazed the trail...their bravery in the very fact of being who they were long ago...They made days like this possible...GOD BLESS AMERICA.....BUD
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    Dec 18, 2010 8:47 PM GMT
    Great news for all service members.
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    Dec 18, 2010 8:47 PM GMT
    I always considered the desegregation oft he US Forces to be the "tipping point" for civil rights in the US and if that is true then this represents the same for gay rights.

    I imagine it is far too simplistic to give Obama credit for this, but it will likely go down as an accomplishment for his Presidency?





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    Dec 18, 2010 8:49 PM GMT
    I guess the credit belongs to many, but this should be seen as a LOSS for McCain.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Dec 18, 2010 9:04 PM GMT
    In the end, just glad to see it moving forward. We know who supported the cause and who was against it. Just glad it will soon be history.