Fav warm weather state to live in

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    Dec 20, 2010 12:51 AM GMT
    Ok since moving here in the States, I enjoyed the "varying" weather. However, I've come to a point where I'm hating this time of the year. I'm disliking the intense cold now.

    What states or locations have you been in where the weather is warm, and maybe "gay-friendly"? What are the cons of the place e.g. cost, traffic, beavers and gophers...
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    Dec 20, 2010 1:35 AM GMT
    A very good question, especially as I decided today I canĀ“t live in the north of the USA in winter. THe south is traditionally more retarded on many social issues... I await the replies with interest.
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    Dec 20, 2010 1:37 AM GMT
    Living in Tampa, FL and love the weather, but loved Atlanta as well. Would be a hard choice to make at this point.icon_question.gif
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    Dec 20, 2010 1:37 AM GMT
    California. icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 20, 2010 1:38 AM GMT
    Which leaves California as the least retarded and most mild climate state with no seasons and very little temperature extremes (on the coast anyway)
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    Dec 20, 2010 1:44 AM GMT
    The conditions you have listed- warm weather, gay-friendly, cost, traffic- there is hardly anywhere that satisfies all of those. As far as warm weather and being gay friendly probably California, but it doesn't really have traffic and cost of living on its side.
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    Dec 20, 2010 1:46 AM GMT
    South Florida is generally gay friendly, but rather hot in the summer, not for many people year-round. Very nice right now. We just had a cold snap, but back to mid-70s, that we'll keep through Christmas. Florida overall is politically Red, homophobic and bigoted, like the rest of the US South, but we don't experience much of that in most of the southern part, and down through the Keys. The City of Miami is becoming a problem lately, though (which is different from the City of Miami Beach).
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    Dec 20, 2010 1:48 AM GMT
    Tazo995 saidWhich leaves California as the least retarded and most mild climate state with no seasons and very little temperature extremes (on the coast anyway)
    It can be retarded, but all in all, ok. Although the variation in seasons is not extreme, you can travel short distances and get variety. For example, during the winter, the snow is in the local mountains, where it belongs. You can ski or snow board in the morning and then surf in the ocean in the afternoon. Also gay friendly, especially near coast. Also has some large gay neighborhoods, such as West Hollywood. Disadvantages: too much traffic, but you can avoid most of that if you live not far from where you work, and living costs are high compared to some areas.
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    Dec 20, 2010 1:54 AM GMT
    MarriedAdam saidLiving in Tampa, FL and love the weather, but loved Atlanta as well. Would be a hard choice to make at this point.icon_question.gif



    Atlanta may deserve it's reputation for being hot in the summertime but it can be freezing in the wintertime. There are few places in the U.S. that are warm year-round. Maybe southern California and Southern Florida but even those places can be cold. Or, at least, chilly.
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    Dec 20, 2010 1:54 AM GMT
    Art_Deco saidSouth Florida is generally gay friendly, but rather hot in the summer, not for many people year-round. Very nice right now. We just had a cold snap, but back to mid-70s, that we'll keep through Christmas. Florida overall is politically Red, homophobic and bigoted, like the rest of the US South, but we don't experience much of that in most of the southern part, and down through the Keys. The City of Miami is becoming a problem lately, though (which is different from the City of Miami Beach).


    You are 100 percent correct! I thought Central Florida would have turned the corner a couple of years ago and become more liberal, however, that was buried in the November elections. We do have a gay person on the Orlando City Council (Patty Sheehan) and actually had a couple of openly gay men to run for political office here, only to be swept up in the Red Tide.

    What is the problem in the City of Miami?
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    Dec 20, 2010 1:56 AM GMT
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    Tazo995 saidWhich leaves California as the least retarded and most mild climate state with no seasons and very little temperature extremes (on the coast anyway)
    It can be retarded, but all in all, ok. Although the variation in seasons is not extreme, you can travel short distances and get variety. For example, during the winter, the snow is in the local mountains, where it belongs. You can ski or snow board in the morning and then surf in the ocean in the afternoon. Also gay friendly, especially near coast. Also has some large gay neighborhoods, such as West Hollywood. Disadvantages: too much traffic, but you can avoid most of that if you live not far from where you work, and living costs are high compared to some areas.



    The "traffic in LA" thing is more mental then anything. The city traffic isn't that bad at all compared to some places I've lived. You just wanna avoid the freeways at certain hours.

    As far as cost of living goes... if you're from Western Europe anywhere in the US is cheap. The rents in LA are high, but the low cost of food etc pretty much evens it out.
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    Dec 20, 2010 1:56 AM GMT
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    MarriedAdam saidLiving in Tampa, FL and love the weather, but loved Atlanta as well. Would be a hard choice to make at this point.icon_question.gif



    Atlanta may deserve it's reputation for being hot in the summertime but it can be freezing in the wintertime. There are few places in the U.S. that are warm year-round. Maybe southern California and Southern Florida but even those places can be cold. Or, at least, chilly.


    I really liked the seasons in Atlanta and enjoyed 3 of them; summer was just plain nasty, but would consider pulling up stakes to go back.
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    Dec 20, 2010 2:01 AM GMT
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    Tazo995 saidWhich leaves California as the least retarded and most mild climate state with no seasons and very little temperature extremes (on the coast anyway)
    It can be retarded, but all in all, ok. Although the variation in seasons is not extreme, you can travel short distances and get variety. For example, during the winter, the snow is in the local mountains, where it belongs. You can ski or snow board in the morning and then surf in the ocean in the afternoon. Also gay friendly, especially near coast. Also has some large gay neighborhoods, such as West Hollywood. Disadvantages: too much traffic, but you can avoid most of that if you live not far from where you work, and living costs are high compared to some areas.



    The "traffic in LA" thing is more mental then anything. The city traffic isn't that bad at all compared to some places I've lived. You just wanna avoid the freeways at certain hours.

    As far as cost of living goes... if you're from Western Europe anywhere in the US is cheap. The rents in LA are high, but the low cost of food etc pretty much evens it out.

    You're right on both counts. Traffic is much better than many cities on the east coast, except for those who travel long distances and can't avoid the rush hours.
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    Dec 20, 2010 2:12 AM GMT
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    Art_Deco saidSouth Florida is generally gay friendly, but rather hot in the summer, not for many people year-round. Very nice right now. We just had a cold snap, but back to mid-70s, that we'll keep through Christmas. Florida overall is politically Red, homophobic and bigoted, like the rest of the US South, but we don't experience much of that in most of the southern part, and down through the Keys. The City of Miami is becoming a problem lately, though (which is different from the City of Miami Beach).


    You are 100 percent correct! I thought Central Florida would have turned the corner a couple of years ago and become more liberal, however, that was buried in the November elections. We do have a gay person on the Orlando City Council (Patty Sheehan) and actually had a couple of openly gay men to run for political office here, only to be swept up in the Red Tide.

    What is the problem in the City of Miami?

    Miami is becoming dangerous for gays, an increase in assault and hate crimes. We've also had some gay murders and assaults here in Fort Lauderdale, that the police and prosecutors have not termed hate crimes, despite very strong evidence. Some say it's the Latino influence, the macho male attitude plus the influence of the homophobic Catholic Church. I don't know.

    It was in Miami that the notorious case of the vacationing lesbian couple happened over 2 years ago, where one had a sudden brain aneurism and died. Her partner and their kids were denied access to her by the hospital, despite their having prepared legal documents, and she died alone.

    The Florida State Supreme Court later ruled in the hospital's favor, saying it had to the right to deny access to a lesbian partner, regardless of their prearranged legal instruments. It was this shameful case that prompted President Obama to issue an Executive Order to the Dept of HHS, that health care providers must honor GLBT partners who have drawn such legal protections for each other, in order for the provider to continue receiving Federal monies through HHS.

    Obama personally announced the order in Miami, in a symbolic gesture. Last I heard it still hadn't been implemented, I believe because of obstacles from Congressional Republicans, who do not want gays to have hospital access to their partners. Does anyone know the current status of this?
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    Dec 20, 2010 2:14 AM GMT
    try south mississippi. ;)
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    Dec 20, 2010 2:20 AM GMT
    Tazo995 saidWhich leaves California as the least retarded and most mild climate state with no seasons and very little temperature extremes (on the coast anyway)


    I was gonna say... Hawaii definitely wins out for climate...

    And on the other coast, South Florida has the same weather as the Bahamas and Bermuda
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    Dec 20, 2010 2:24 AM GMT
    Tazo995 said
    The "traffic in LA" thing is more mental then anything. The city traffic isn't that bad at all compared to some places I've lived. .


    I know exactly where and what you're talking about!
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    Dec 20, 2010 2:29 AM GMT
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    Art_Deco saidSouth Florida is generally gay friendly, but rather hot in the summer, not for many people year-round. Very nice right now. We just had a cold snap, but back to mid-70s, that we'll keep through Christmas. Florida overall is politically Red, homophobic and bigoted, like the rest of the US South, but we don't experience much of that in most of the southern part, and down through the Keys. The City of Miami is becoming a problem lately, though (which is different from the City of Miami Beach).


    You are 100 percent correct! I thought Central Florida would have turned the corner a couple of years ago and become more liberal, however, that was buried in the November elections. We do have a gay person on the Orlando City Council (Patty Sheehan) and actually had a couple of openly gay men to run for political office here, only to be swept up in the Red Tide.

    What is the problem in the City of Miami?

    Miami is becoming dangerous for gays, an increase in assault and hate crimes. We've also had some gay murders and assaults here in Fort Lauderdale, that the police and prosecutors have not termed hate crimes, despite very strong evidence. Some say it's the Latino influence, the macho male attitude plus the influence of the homophobic Catholic Church. I don't know.

    It was in Miami that the notorious case of the vacationing lesbian couple happened over 2 years ago, where one had a sudden brain aneurism and died. Her partner and their kids were denied access to her by the hospital, despite their having prepared legal documents, and she died alone.

    The Florida State Supreme Court later ruled in the hospital's favor, saying it had to the right to deny access to a lesbian partner, regardless of their prearranged legal instruments. It was this shameful case that prompted President Obama to issue an Executive Order to the Dept of HHS, that health care providers must honor GLBT partners who have drawn such legal protections for each other, in order for the provider to continue receiving Federal monies through HHS.

    Obama personally announced the order in Miami. Last I heard it still hadn't been implemented, I believe because of obstacles from Congressional Republicans, who do not want gays to have hospital access to their partners. Does anyone know the current status of this?


    I wonder though.. a great deal of the gays Ive met in Miami were Latinos and Caribbeans themselevs who go there to escape the deadly gay hatred of the Caribbean... The increased influx might be causing a backlash among the rest of the Caribbean/Latin and Southern US, who are both very homophobic and conservative, who are moving to Miami due to the city's focal point of economic activity (which has attracted the gay scene in the first place) in the region... nestled right dead smack at the centre of teh South US and Caribbean, being at the centre of a huge swath of intensely homophobic cultures...
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    Dec 20, 2010 2:37 AM GMT
    sxydrkhair saidArizona or Florida.

    California suck.

    C'mon - you know better. Florida is hot in the summer and the humidity is a killer. Arizona and California both have comfortable low humidity, but in Arizona the heat in the summer can be intense. California has problems, but is the winner!!!
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    Dec 20, 2010 2:46 AM GMT
    No one is saying Georgia?! I mean, Atlanta IS considered by many the gay capital of the south.

    Haha in all seriousness, there are better places to live as far as weather. I couldn't go any further north though because I hate the cold! And Atlanta is already cold enough right now. And summer can be brutal as hell but I LOVE spending those 100 degree days in the pool with a cold beer icon_cool.gif
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    Dec 20, 2010 2:50 AM GMT
    I've lived in Florida since 1980 and despite its problems, I love it here. Yes - there are some pretty backwards areas in Florida but if you stick with the major cities I think you'll do fine. I live in Tampa but I have to say, the Pinellas side of the bay and St. Petersburg in particular, seems to be especially gay friendly. icon_cool.gif
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    Dec 20, 2010 2:57 AM GMT
    Las Vegas, Nevada.

    Pros: Lots of bare feet in the summertime.

    Cons: Traffic is starting to be a bitch and so are the beavers icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 20, 2010 2:58 AM GMT
    amar_m saidI wonder though.. a great deal of the gays Ive met in Miami were Latinos and Caribbeans themselevs who go there to escape the deadly gay hatred of the Caribbean... The increased influx might be causing a backlash among the rest of the Caribbean/Latin and Southern US, who are both very homophobic and conservative, who are moving to Miami due to the city's focal point of economic activity (which has attracted the gay scene in the first place) in the region... nestled right dead smack at the centre of teh South US and Caribbean, being at the centre of a huge swath of intensely homophobic cultures...

    So I'm not quite sure what you're saying. Is Miami unfriendly to gays or not? My experience is that it leans to the hostile side.

    But I would stress that there are *TWO* Miami's, that is not well understood outside of Florida. Check an online map and you will see.

    There is Miami, and there is Miami Beach a few miles away. They are often confused. Miami Beach is the one you want, with the art deco hotels, the gay-friendly atmosphere (disregarding southbeach1500, but one rotten apple doesn't spoil the barrel in this case, assuming he even really does live there), the ocean shore, the tourists. Miami is dreary downtown -- Miami Beach is the deco delight. And still relatively gay friendly, though the gay places are mostly gone now.
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    Dec 20, 2010 3:21 AM GMT
    Miami is the warmest place I know of in the US, and the winters are still too cold for me.
    Well, as of last winter they were; and this winter got off to a bad start, too (already broke a few all-time record lows).
    Hopefully next winter won't be so bad.