Are the DEMOCRATS going to SELF-DESTRUCT before they even get to the nomination?

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    Mar 20, 2008 9:26 PM GMT
    If you thought what Reverend Wright had to say was bad news, watch this little jewel coming from Reverend Manning and he is speakin “GODs Word”.



    But then to brighten your day this is how many more days, hours, minutes, and seconds we have left to put up with Mr. GAWB. A stands for @rse.

    http://www.bushslastday.com/index.html

    Have a good one and keep smilinicon_biggrin.gif and havin fun,

    Alex
  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 20, 2008 9:29 PM GMT
    I've heard about enough of this.. I just hope we can move on...
  • GQjock

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    Mar 20, 2008 9:32 PM GMT
    This is just tired...

    Like Jerry Falwell and the rest of them are any better?
    You know it and I know that Obama doesn't think, say or do any of the things that this guy has said

    ...so why fret about it?
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    Mar 20, 2008 9:44 PM GMT
    it'd be hard to imagine obama agrees with him when the preacher is most obviously AGAINST obama. this isn't the same preacher... why would there be any concern that this man might be speaking for obama?

    as for self-destructing... i've always known i was voting for clinton, so it's a moot point for me.
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    Mar 20, 2008 10:18 PM GMT
    dancerjack saidit'd be hard to imagine obama agrees with him when the preacher is most obviously AGAINST obama. this isn't the same preacher... why would there be any concern that this man might be speaking for obama?

    as for self-destructing... i've always known i was voting for clinton, so it's a moot point for me.


    Are you trying to say all black preachers aren't the same?
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    Mar 20, 2008 10:35 PM GMT
    no, i'm saying the crazy preacher in this video isn't the crazy preacher that baptised barack obama.
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    Mar 21, 2008 12:20 AM GMT
    I've been thinking so.

    It's getting really annoying, having the two sides in the party constantly going at each other.
  • irishkcguy

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    Mar 21, 2008 12:55 AM GMT
    It looks like Florida and Michigan aren't going to revote. This means Hillary will likely win Pennsylvania and then Obama will likely win everything else. He will go into Denver with the most delegates, the most states won and the most total votes. If Hillary tries to subvert the voters and the steal the nomination all hell will break loose. I don't think she has the class to bow out gracefully. If she steals the nomination it will really destroy the party.
  • SkyMiles

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    Mar 21, 2008 1:35 AM GMT
    The answer is 'yes'. Hillary and Obama will cancel each other out. Hillary supporters will refuse to go to bat for Obama, and vice-versa.

    The DNC completely screwed the pooch with Michigan and Florida.

    WcCain gets to 'swiftboat' both, enjoying the benefits while denying any involvement as with this ridiculous Wright bullcrap.

    WcCain is going to win. It's practically inevitable. Get ready for 100 more years of war and 'bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb-bomb Iran.'
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    Mar 21, 2008 1:41 AM GMT
    alexander7 saidIf you thought what Reverend Wright had to say was bad news, watch this little jewel coming from Reverend Manning and he is speakin “GODs Word”.
    Alex
    Are these guys running for president? I really don't give a crap what they say.
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    Mar 21, 2008 2:04 AM GMT
    Colbert_Nation saidThe answer is 'yes'. Hillary and Obama will cancel each other out. Hillary supporters will refuse to go to bat for Obama, and vice-versa.


    This is actually incorrect. Current polling shoes that only 5% of Obama supporters would refuse to vote for Clinton while 25% of Clinton supporters refuse to support Obama. My guess is both numbers would actually shrink in reality as the polling as been done the day of primary voting and the chances of people having a someone emotional response would be higher.
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    Mar 21, 2008 2:12 AM GMT



    I was SINCERELY hoping no one would put this DOPE on front street, but alas here he is. Thank you Alexander7
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    Mar 21, 2008 2:13 AM GMT
    Colbert Nation said "The DNC completely screwed the pooch with Michigan and Florida."

    No--The DNC set the rules and told Michigan and Florida succinctly the ramifications if they moved their primary schedules. Those states said "Screw You", only apparently it wasn't screwing the DNC, it was screwing their own voters out of their voice.
  • irishkcguy

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    Mar 21, 2008 2:28 AM GMT
    After watching that Rev. Manning video it occurred to me that I have never heard my pastor use the word "tits" in a sermon before. Maybe that's why I'm gay. . . .
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    Mar 21, 2008 2:32 AM GMT
    I would vote for Hillary, but I really really really will hate it. It is just a vote against McCain. I started out supporter her, pre_obama. Then I moved the obama because I liked him. Then I was untrusting of Hillary, then angry, and now furious.
  • SkyMiles

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    Mar 21, 2008 2:41 AM GMT
    1969er saidColbert Nation said "The DNC completely screwed the pooch with Michigan and Florida."

    No--The DNC set the rules and told Michigan and Florida succinctly the ramifications if they moved their primary schedules. Those states said "Screw You", only apparently it wasn't screwing the DNC, it was screwing their own voters out of their voice.


    True, there's blame on both sides there. MI and FL called but the DNC wasn't bluffing. The result is a drawn-out primary process which is going to kill whoever wins it by not allowing them the time they need to fundraise and campaign, a tremendous slight offered to the Democratic voters of those crucial states, and giving the Democratic leadership the aura of not knowing what the hell they're doing.

    They should have been thinking more long term is what I'm saying.

    And meanwhile, WcCain gets to shore up his base, kiss the asses of religious nutcases who make the now-infamous Reverend Wright look tame, raise truckloads of korrupt korporate kash, pretend he's president already as with this absurd 'fact-finding' trip to the middle east he's on this week, and generally pick apart both potential opponents.

    As to the main thread -- Are the Dems going to Self-Destruct? It looks to me like 'yes', especially against Republicans who are the absolute masters of addition by division.
  • auryn

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    Mar 21, 2008 3:38 AM GMT
    I just heard about this on The Randi Rhodes Show. (I love her, she's such a goddess!)


    Political Radar: Pelosi's Delegate Stance Boosts Obama
    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/03/pelosis-delegat.html



    Speaker Backs People's Choice
    http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4460306

    http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4460306&affil=komo

    For those of you that don't want to read or watch it, the power is in the numbers. Track who is ahead in the delegate count and we'll know who the will win the convention's nomination. It's that simple.
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    Mar 21, 2008 3:40 AM GMT
    1969er saidNo--The DNC set the rules and told Michigan and Florida succinctly the ramifications if they moved their primary schedules. Those states said "Screw You", only apparently it wasn't screwing the DNC, it was screwing their own voters out of their voice.


    It seems appropriate enough in this thread for a one-word response to your succinctly-written response:

    Amen.
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    Mar 21, 2008 3:51 AM GMT
    irishkcguy saidAfter watching that Rev. Manning video it occurred to me that I have never heard my pastor use the word "tits" in a sermon before. Maybe that's why I'm gay. . . .
    I admit I didn't even listen to the sermon, but however unrelated, your comment stirred in my mind a funny memory from long ago in a Christian church I attended. It is regarding the story of a crafty prophet Balaam (if you are not familiar with it look up Numbers chapter 22) ..

    Anyway the minister/speaker for that day, speaking of the story, said ..
    ".. And so it happened when Balaam was on his way, that God spoke to Balaam through his ass "... Yeah it was a paraphrase gone bad .. see Numbers 22:28 for the actual verse about the speaking ass.
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    Mar 21, 2008 8:10 AM GMT
    ActiveAndFit said[quote][ It is regarding the story of a crafty prophet Balaam (if you are not familiar with it look up Numbers chapter 22) ..

    Anyway the minister/speaker for that day, speaking of the story, said ..
    ".. And so it happened when Balaam was on his way, that God spoke to Balaam through his ass "... Yeah it was a paraphrase gone bad .. see Numbers 22:28 for the actual verse about the speaking ass.


    Yeah, and after few millienia, we finally know who God has picked to be the ass.icon_rolleyes.gif

    Gwgtrunks saidI've been thinking so.

    It's getting really annoying, having the two sides in the party constantly going at each other.


    This is the reason why I started this thread. We have until August to listen to these crazy diatribes. This video came to me from a friend in Mexico which is proof enough for me that this video is way out there. How many people will listen to this crap and get so turned off by the stink they will disappear by November or they will be so angry at the opposite candidate from the one they support that they will also not be there in November. The only thing now that will help is if one of the candidates should get a majority of the delegates in a hurry and the other bow out so the winner can have a clear shot at McStain.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 21, 2008 12:54 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]sickothesame said[/cite]I would vote for Hillary, but I really really really will hate it. It is just a vote against McCain. (quote)




    I kind of agree with Sickofthesame but in reverse. I'm just tired of Obama. I'm sick of the speeches, today with the picture of President Clinton with Obama's minister taken at the Prayer breakfast floated by the Obama campaign..
    What did the Clintons have to do with any
    of this??? It was just so cheap.

    If I have to vote for Obama, I will really, really hate it.. its just a vote against McCain...
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    Mar 21, 2008 1:09 PM GMT
    You think that the adults running both parties would want to bury the hatchet after years of stupid name calling and knowing that the taxpayers know they're wasting money allocated from their taxes. I hate political agendas and their manipulative commercials. Lies, lies, lies; stop telling me sweet little lies! That's why I view all issues from an Independent perspective, that way I don't have to be limited by the restrictive thinking of either political party, and can focus on what really matters to me about any issue being discussed.

    "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance", by Thomas Jefferson.