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  • GQjock

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    Dec 21, 2010 12:40 AM GMT
    First they Filibustered nearly everything that went through the Senate
    causing everything to get past the Senate chamber to have a super majority of at least 60 majority votes

    400 Bills that were passed by the House of Representatives died in the Senate
    because of the republican blockade
    ... and it worked for them

    The American voter - sick and tired of the gridlock blamed the party in power

    But I think the stink is sticking to the people who deserve now

    People saw who was blocking DADT's repeal
    They took notice of the antics they tried when Reid placed it up for a vote the first time
    and the stalling tactics they used as well
    Now we have every past Secretary of State
    all the joint cheifs
    Colin Powell
    Henry Kissenger
    Condoleeza Rice
    ..... all of them say we need the START Treaty signed now
    and what do the republicans do????
    The same damned thing
    GOP Senator to Dems: If you try to pass DADT, Republicans won't pass START
    By Greg Sargent WP

    UPDATE, 4:11 p.m.: In an interview with me just now, Senator Bob Corker doubled down on his contention that if Dems move on DADT, Republicans will be less likely to support START.
    "I felt like momentum was growing for START," Corker said, adding that since Reid announced he was holding votes on DADT and DREAM, it has had a "chilling effect."

    But in a stunning reversal the republicans have rolled over on a bill they helped cosponsor
    TO PREVENT CHILD MARRIAGE icon_eek.gif

    GOP shuts down bill to prevent child marriage

    By Daniel Tencer
    Monday, December 20th, 2010 -- 6:23 pm
    In a bill that would attempt to stop an 8 year old girl from being married to a 47 year old man in places like Saudi Arabia (Which actually happened)
    and a child bride was sexually disfigured by her middle aged husband
    House republicans stopped the bill because they feared it might increase the number of abortions
    The text of the bill does not mention abortion, contraception or family planning.
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    Dec 21, 2010 1:12 AM GMT
    Wait a second....and 8 year old from America can marry some dude? Is the law preventing a child from going to a different country to marry someone or is it preventing from the marriage taking place in the U.S.?
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    Dec 21, 2010 1:47 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    GQjock saidIn a bill that would attempt to stop an 8 year old girl from being married to a 47 year old man in places like Saudi Arabia ...


    So now we're legislating what can and can not be done in other countries?

    Well, I suppose that's better than the Congress coming up with more and more laws for our own country!


    I thought America is already policing the world with it's 18+ laws? I heard stories how guys go to some south Asian country to have sex with 13 year olds where it's LEGAL, and then get arrested when they come back to the U.S. That doesn't make any sense to me. I mean I never find 13 years attractive but if it's legal then well.... I can't dictate what other people do.
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    Dec 21, 2010 1:57 AM GMT
    Ever hear of the RICO Act, the IRS, or DEA?
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    Dec 21, 2010 2:06 AM GMT
    I tell ya guys... something's coming, and it ain't gonna be pretty!! I've been doing a lot of talking with perfect strangers about the GOP & the DEMs, and the overwhelming response has been that neither are effective in any way and it's high time for a major overhaul...something along the lines of a civil revolution.
    To me, Isolationism is the ONLY answer. Bring 'em all home and pay them to work on OUR country and return IT to it's glory days before we start repairing governments who's people all hate our guts anyway.
  • Webster666

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    Dec 21, 2010 3:06 AM GMT
    Regardless of the empty threats of the cranky old men of the Republican party, the START treaty will pass before the end of this year.

    There are plenty of Republicans who think that the treaty is more important for the welfare of our country than playing Mitch McConnell's silly games.
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    Dec 21, 2010 12:19 PM GMT
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    Dec 21, 2010 2:37 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    Friendsrbetter saidI tell ya guys... something's coming, and it ain't gonna be pretty!! I've been doing a lot of talking with perfect strangers about the GOP & the DEMs, and the overwhelming response has been that neither are effective in any way and it's high time for a major overhaul...something along the lines of a civil revolution.
    To me, Isolationism is the ONLY answer. Bring 'em all home and pay them to work on OUR country and return IT to it's glory days before we start repairing governments who's people all hate our guts anyway.

    This nonsense doesn't even bear debating. Isolationism? Really? You need to stop sucking Ron Paul's withered old penis.


    In spite of the fact that, IN YOUR OPINION, this doesn't bear debating, I have spoken to MANY who believe it's time we started looking in this direction.
    Perhaps YOU could enlighten the "uninformed" why YOU think this is nonsense...
    AND, BTW, I don't need YOU to tell me what I need to do.
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    Dec 22, 2010 1:34 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    Friendsrbetter said
    Perhaps YOU could enlighten the "uninformed" why YOU think this is nonsense...


    Just study the Great Depression...it was made dramatically worse by protectionism.


    A non-interventionist foreign policy and a subsidized/taxed protectionist economic policy are separate positions.
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    Dec 22, 2010 1:51 AM GMT
    jprichva said
    Friendsrbetter saidIn spite of the fact that, IN YOUR OPINION, this doesn't bear debating, I have spoken to MANY who believe it's time we started looking in this direction.
    Perhaps YOU could enlighten the "uninformed" why YOU think this is nonsense...
    AND, BTW, I don't need YOU to tell me what I need to do.

    Well, apparently the people you talk to are also idiots.


    Well, apparently the ONLY thing YOU are capable of is name calling and touting your OWN ignorance. If you know so much...why not man up and share something that has some substance to it instead of calling someone who actually might have a valid point an idiot????
    My guess is that you really don't know shit!!!
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    Dec 22, 2010 1:53 AM GMT
    SportingChance said
    yourname2000 said
    Friendsrbetter said
    Perhaps YOU could enlighten the "uninformed" why YOU think this is nonsense...


    Just study the Great Depression...it was made dramatically worse by protectionism.


    A non-interventionist foreign policy and a subsidized/taxed protectionist economic policy are separate positions.


    Excellent point!!!!
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    Dec 22, 2010 2:00 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    Friendsrbetter said
    Perhaps YOU could enlighten the "uninformed" why YOU think this is nonsense...


    Just study the Great Depression...it was made dramatically worse by protectionism.


    Ahh, excuse ME?? Did you ever hear of WPA?? Protectionism and Isolationism are two vastly different ideas.
    What I am suggesting is that, instead of
    spending billions of dollars fighting people we can't even find....why not bring the guys home and do some good works HERE, on our own country.
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    Dec 22, 2010 2:17 AM GMT
    YOURNAME2000 said:
    I'll defer to your glossary. My recollection of American history (not my forte) is that the 2nd WW pulled your country out of isolation and led to the greatest period of growth you've ever seen.

    I've always thought of protectionism and isolationism to be related, in that they feed each other. Again, not my forte...I look forward to learning some history today, though.


    The first paragraph is actually quite true... the war DID actually produce a very strong economic growth in this country. BUT, times and conditions have changed dramatically. During WWII, we were a "super power" and had a bevy of allies to back us up. Today, we are looked upon quite differently...and our "allies" have turned tail and run off.
    IN MY OPINION, we have become, as my mom would say, "too big for our britches"....and, personally, I'm sick to death of hearing that it is OUR responsibility to save the fucking world!!!
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    Dec 22, 2010 2:41 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    Friendsrbetter said
    I'm sick to death of hearing that it is OUR responsibility to save the fucking world!!!


    Well, that's hardly isolationism, is it? ...that's just finally stopping meddling. I think many countries would appreciate that. I've always thought it odd that the US insists on being cop to the world while at the same time refusing any accountablilty to a world court...it seems one-sided and makes you a target unnecessarily.

    I hope you don't feel that Canada is one of the allies that has abandoned your country; we've hung out in Afganistan as long as we could but will be drawing back this year. These efforts to spread the light of democracy and good government with the world don't seem to be appreciated; and the price in blood and treasure is very high indeed.

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    truculence

    Nice! There's a $10 word. icon_lol.gif


    Personally, I don't have any ill feelings towards Canada pulling out at all...I just wish WE would!!
    Pay no mind to "jprichva"... never has anything to offer, but sticks his nose into every body's business.
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    Dec 22, 2010 2:44 AM GMT
    jprichva said
    Friendsrbetter said
    Well, apparently the ONLY thing YOU are capable of is name calling and touting your OWN ignorance. If you know so much...why not man up and share something that has some substance to it instead of calling someone who actually might have a valid point an idiot????
    My guess is that you really don't know shit!!!

    Listen, pal, I've been reading your posts for a long time without commenting. They are almost always full of ignorance, bluster, and truculence. I really don't give a rat's ass what you think about me.
    I don't wish to engage with you further.


    Well, at least ONE of my prayers has been answered....icon_rolleyes.gif
    And unless you have just one iota of intelligence to offer...why don't you just
    STFU!!!