We Need to SHAME Them to Govern Now ?

  • GQjock

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    Dec 21, 2010 11:48 PM GMT
    The Republicans ..... the lying sacks that they are
    Filibustered the 9/11 First responders medical bill
    Which would have payed for the medical bills incurred by the mainly Firemen and Policemen who were the first responders on 9/11

    Why you may ask?

    They said it was too expensive
    LIE ............... the cost was off set by closing loop holes Foreign companies use when trading with the US

    so Jon Stewart saw this hunk of rotting republican stench and did this

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    and now THIS happened

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    Dec 22, 2010 12:31 AM GMT
    Wow. Even Fox recognized how horrifying the Republicans behavior was on this one.
  • GQjock

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    Dec 22, 2010 12:56 AM GMT
    Hehe ..... Stewart had Huckabbe on to hawk his stupid Christmas book and Jon just blasted him on the republicans not signing this bill and on FOX's silence on it

    Huckabbe must have went straight back and said
    Man we better do something on this

    Here's Jon's 9/11 episode
    http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/368908/thu-december-16-2010-mike-huckabee
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    Dec 22, 2010 3:38 PM GMT
    The Republican apologists here at RJ are oddly silent on this one.

    Nothing, gents?

    Nothing at all?
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    Dec 22, 2010 5:31 PM GMT
    Were these health problems they developed from doing their job on 9/11?
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    Dec 22, 2010 8:57 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidWere these health problems they developed from doing their job on 9/11?


    Yes.
  • tongun18

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    Dec 22, 2010 10:34 PM GMT
    WOW! At 4:16 Shep is so worked up he say's "...we can pay for tax cuts for billionaires that don't need them and won't stimulate the economy but we can't get health care for ground zero first responders..." Who would have thought such a statement would come from someone on the Fox payroll!
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    Dec 22, 2010 10:40 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidWere these health problems they developed from doing their job on 9/11?
    No.. they were developed on Nascar race day...

    Did you even watch TV after the twin towers fell? Even for three minutes?
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    Dec 22, 2010 10:47 PM GMT
    I have to admit that this issue and the repubs actions are hysterical!
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    Dec 22, 2010 10:55 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidFirst, I'm suspicious about "the 9/11 First responders medical bill" because most bills in Washington DC are not at all what their titles suggest.

    Second, were the Republicans trying to adhere to pay-go once again?

    More info please.


    It is what it says it is and nothing else.

    It is paid for by closing corporate loopholes which generate an offset in revenue,so it's budget and deficit neutral.

    The Republican leadership opposed it solely because they want to deny Obama any victory they can. They care more about winning political battles than caring for those who selflessly gave their health to respond to the worst attack in American history, which coincidentally also occurred on a Republican's watch.
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    Dec 22, 2010 11:07 PM GMT
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    Christian73 said
    southbeach1500 saidFirst, I'm suspicious about "the 9/11 First responders medical bill" because most bills in Washington DC are not at all what their titles suggest.

    Second, were the Republicans trying to adhere to pay-go once again?

    More info please.


    It is what it says it is and nothing else.

    It is paid for by closing corporate loopholes which generate an offset in revenue,so it's budget and deficit neutral.

    The Republican leadership opposed it solely because they want to deny Obama any victory they can. They care more about winning political battles than caring for those who selflessly gave their health to respond to the worst attack in American history, which coincidentally also occurred on a Republican's watch.


    Unfortunately, I don't believe you. I'm not saying you are lying, however your interpretation of the bill and the circumstances surrounding it is most likely based on liberal sources.



    Oh yeah. Mitch McConnell is a very liberal source. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Or, maybe Tom Coburn who LIED on national television saying he couldn't support the bill because there had been no hearings on it. In reality, there were hearings in front of a committee he sits on, but which he declined to attend. Is that a liberal source? Or is he just a fucking liar?

    And, of course, Rudy Guiliani, Michael Bloomberg and (this will probably give you wood) Chris Christie, are all crazed liberal sources who called on the Republicans to put aside partisan politics and pass the bill.

    For someone who claims not to be a Republican, you are stunningly partisan in nearly everything you say or do, and you regularly defend things that are not at all libertarian or conservative.
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    Dec 23, 2010 6:26 AM GMT
    As it turns out, Coburn's objection was that it was too expensive and a compromise was reached. His objections do not appear to be unreasonable:

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2010/12/coburn-there-will-be-no-more-big-spending-bills
    But Coburn's resistence has yielded fruit in the form of a compromise that, among much else, reduces the measure's estimated total cost from more than $6 billion to about $4.2 billion.

    "I'll stand in the way of anything that doesn't make sense and doesn't spend our money wisely, so you know, it doesn't matter what the issue is, we're in such a hole, Jon, that we don't have the luxury of not getting things right," Coburn said in an interview with ABC News' Jonathan Karl shortly after leaving a closed-door meeting with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.


    I gotta say Christian, it makes your interpretation seem rather partisan. More from Bloomberg:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-23/u-s-congress-votes-to-aid-9-11-clean-up-crews-rescuers-before-adjourning.html
    Coburn, a physician, said the revised bill would close the victims’ compensation fund in 2016 instead of 2031, and would include workers’ compensation payments in determining benefits that victims would receive.

    “Every American recognizes the heroism of the 9/11 first responders, but it is not compassionate to help one group while robbing future generations of opportunity,” Coburn said in a statement.


    As for the criticisms? From Mitch McConnell whom you reference Christian:

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10357/1112879-84.stm
    Still, the acrimonious fight over the 9/11 legislation appeared to leave Republicans on the defensive, with some complaining that their party had been unfairly demonized for raising legitimate objections to the bill the House passed.

    "Some have tried to portray this debate as a debate between those who support 9/11 workers and those who don't," said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. "This is a gross distortion of the facts. There was never any doubt about supporting the first responders. It was about doing it right."
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    Dec 23, 2010 7:15 AM GMT
    riddler78 saidAs it turns out, Coburn's objection was that it was too expensive and a compromise was reached. His objections do not appear to be unreasonable:

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2010/12/coburn-there-will-be-no-more-big-spending-bills
    But Coburn's resistence has yielded fruit in the form of a compromise that, among much else, reduces the measure's estimated total cost from more than $6 billion to about $4.2 billion.

    "I'll stand in the way of anything that doesn't make sense and doesn't spend our money wisely, so you know, it doesn't matter what the issue is, we're in such a hole, Jon, that we don't have the luxury of not getting things right," Coburn said in an interview with ABC News' Jonathan Karl shortly after leaving a closed-door meeting with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.


    I gotta say Christian, it makes your interpretation seem rather partisan. More from Bloomberg:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-23/u-s-congress-votes-to-aid-9-11-clean-up-crews-rescuers-before-adjourning.html
    Coburn, a physician, said the revised bill would close the victims’ compensation fund in 2016 instead of 2031, and would include workers’ compensation payments in determining benefits that victims would receive.

    “Every American recognizes the heroism of the 9/11 first responders, but it is not compassionate to help one group while robbing future generations of opportunity,” Coburn said in a statement.


    As for the criticisms? From Mitch McConnell whom you reference Christian:

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10357/1112879-84.stm
    Still, the acrimonious fight over the 9/11 legislation appeared to leave Republicans on the defensive, with some complaining that their party had been unfairly demonized for raising legitimate objections to the bill the House passed.

    "Some have tried to portray this debate as a debate between those who support 9/11 workers and those who don't," said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. "This is a gross distortion of the facts. There was never any doubt about supporting the first responders. It was about doing it right."


    Blah, blah,blah. Republican, Frank Luntz scripted talking points.

    Coburn's objection most recently was that the bill had not been brought to committee. A LIE. What you're posting is his tap dancing after being called on the carpet for being an obstructionist asshat.

    As for Mitch McConnell, he said his primary goal was to make sure Obama is a "one-term" president. It was only after their own base starting turning against them that they started coming around.

    And, I'll remind you that the issue of compensation for medical costs for 9/11 responders was completely ignored by Bush.

    You think these are 'reasonable objections' when in reality the Republican leaders were, once again, trying to run down the clock and avoid doing this.

    Thankfully, it's done and they can all suck it. Meanwhile the Reagan Republicans who have supported the Republicans have now seen exactly what kind of amoral power hungry douche bags these Republicans are and will not vote for them again.

    PS: Any minute SouthBeach will come on to this thread and tell you you can't comment on US politics because you're Canadian and then MockTwinkie will tell us you're super-wealthy because you're Asian. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • Webster666

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    Dec 23, 2010 10:00 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidFirst, I'm suspicious about "the 9/11 First responders medical bill" because most bills in Washington DC are not at all what their titles suggest.

    Second, were the Republicans trying to adhere to pay-go once again?

    More info please.




    You stupid ignorant cunt.
    The only "INFO" you need is that 9/11 first responders are sick and suffering and dying, and the Republicans filibustered to death a bill that would have provided those people with medical care.

    This after the damn Republicans rode 9/11 to election and reelection again and again and again.

    This after Republican President George W. Bush was shown a memo (many months before 9/11) that said that people were planning to fly airplanes into American buildings. And, his reaction was to do NOTHING.

    This after the Republican son of a bitch stood atop the smoldering rubble of the twin towers and promised that we'd get the people "who did this." And, then the Republican son of a bitch went off and invaded the wrong country, a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.

    You stupid ass.
    The 9/11 responders are some of the greatest heroes America has ever known. They deserve complete medical care, for as long as they need it, FOR FREE. It doesn't matter how it's going to be paid for.
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    Dec 23, 2010 3:54 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Yeah, I figured there was more to it.

    Liberals appear to have comprehension problems when it comes to understanding what they read and what they hear.


    Nope. Not more to it. Just the usual amoral, Republican obstructionism.

    But luckily the American people trust Obama more than the Republicans.