Anyone with experience of Saabs?

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    Dec 22, 2010 3:35 PM GMT
    Hey folks,

    I'm thinking trading in for a new used Saab 9-3 (2000) in the new year. They're very reasonably priced but I just wonder what's the catch.

    I've done some net research and have come across some problems. Drinking petrol and needing parts. But if you guys have any experience with them, would love to hear them - good stories more welcome!
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    Dec 22, 2010 5:58 PM GMT
    A colleague of mine has a 2000 9-3 convertible , she has put close to 150.000 miles on it with very few problems .. But she bought it new and does all the required maintenance on time .....
    Yours being a second hand car , i would have it inspected thoroughly before buying it , and ask for a warranty ..
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    Dec 22, 2010 6:54 PM GMT
    My mom had this exact car. After her nightmare experience with it, she tells everyone that SAAB is an acronym for Sorry Ass AutomoBiles.
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    Dec 22, 2010 10:07 PM GMT
    I wouldn't buy that car,, the steering wheels on the wrong sideicon_surprised.gif
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    Dec 22, 2010 10:22 PM GMT
    Hmmm, thanks guys. So mixed experiences there. I feel it could be a bit of a cash cow but I might risk it.

    And thanks Beneful, our roads are on the wrong side too so I should be ok icon_exclaim.gif
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    Dec 22, 2010 10:45 PM GMT
    It's an old GM platform, with contemporary GM engines/gearboxes and a nice interior. Anything from any other premium manufacturer (Mercedes, BMW, Audi) would be preferable.
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    Dec 22, 2010 11:28 PM GMT
    RoddenShaw saidIt's an old GM platform, with contemporary GM engines/gearboxes and a nice interior...


    i believe that you are a wee bit mistaken in your assumptions here...

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    Dec 22, 2010 11:39 PM GMT
    rnch said
    RoddenShaw saidIt's an old GM platform, with contemporary GM engines/gearboxes and a nice interior...


    i believe that you are a wee bit mistaken in your assumptions here...

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    I believe that I'm not. The 2000 Saab 9-3 is based on the GM2900 platform, first introduced in 1988 with the Opel Vectra A/Vauxhall Cavalier MKIII. Most of the engines were GM Ecotec units, though Saab did their own tuning and mapping, as well as adding turbo charging in many cases.

    Saab has always majored on interiors and the 9-3 is no exception. Even the most basic model will have an ergonomically sound interior with decent materials and construction.
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    Dec 22, 2010 11:52 PM GMT
    ....there old people cars.... ;-)
    Hey and ur from Ireland! U should know that......but a Kerry man eh? explains a bit lolJK
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    Dec 23, 2010 12:03 AM GMT
    RoddenShaw said
    rnch said
    RoddenShaw saidIt's an old GM platform, with contemporary GM engines/gearboxes and a nice interior...


    i believe that you are a wee bit mistaken in your assumptions here...

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    I believe that I'm not. The 2000 Saab 9-3 is based on the GM2900 platform, first introduced in 1988 with the Opel Vectra A/Vauxhall Cavalier MKIII. Most of the engines were GM Ecotec units, though Saab did their own tuning and mapping, as well as adding turbo charging in many cases.

    Saab has always majored on interiors and the 9-3 is no exception. Even the most basic model will have an ergonomically sound interior with decent materials and construction.



    ahhh...thought you were inferring that saab's had chevy or pontiac drivetrains and chassis parts....forgot about GM outside of the USA.
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    Dec 23, 2010 12:06 AM GMT
    2 words. Never again. Electrical problems. More expensive to repair than an Audi. No. NO. NOOO!!!


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  • Ironman4U

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    Dec 23, 2010 12:38 AM GMT
    Had it, was good for years and fun to drive, but when things started going bad, it seemed to do so in multiples! Very expensive to repair.
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    Dec 23, 2010 5:31 PM GMT
    RoddenShaw saidIt's an old GM platform, with contemporary GM engines/gearboxes and a nice interior. Anything from any other premium manufacturer (Mercedes, BMW, Audi) would be preferable.



    You have a good point but .........
    It would be difficult to find a convertible from one of those premium manufacturers at a price equivalent to a Saab ....

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    Dec 23, 2010 5:36 PM GMT
    RoddenShaw said
    rnch said
    RoddenShaw saidIt's an old GM platform, with contemporary GM engines/gearboxes and a nice interior...


    i believe that you are a wee bit mistaken in your assumptions here...

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    I believe that I'm not. The 2000 Saab 9-3 is based on the GM2900 platform, first introduced in 1988 with the Opel Vectra A/Vauxhall Cavalier MKIII. Most of the engines were GM Ecotec units, though Saab did their own tuning and mapping, as well as adding turbo charging in many cases.

    Saab has always majored on interiors and the 9-3 is no exception. Even the most basic model will have an ergonomically sound interior with decent materials and construction.





    You are mostly right on your assumptions , but the 2000 9-3 , was still running with the old Saab 4 cylinders powerplant .... Ecotec came on later years ...
    I really appreciate your automobile knowledge ....icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 23, 2010 5:36 PM GMT
    RoddenShaw said
    rnch said
    RoddenShaw saidIt's an old GM platform, with contemporary GM engines/gearboxes and a nice interior...


    i believe that you are a wee bit mistaken in your assumptions here...

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    I believe that I'm not. The 2000 Saab 9-3 is based on the GM2900 platform, first introduced in 1988 with the Opel Vectra A/Vauxhall Cavalier MKIII. Most of the engines were GM Ecotec units, though Saab did their own tuning and mapping, as well as adding turbo charging in many cases.

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    According to Wikipedia the early 9-3 used the SAAB H engine, an update of SAAB's own engine , not the Vectra unit. 2002 9-3s onwards used the GM engine.

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    Dec 23, 2010 5:43 PM GMT
    have a 2007 9-3 with 65k now, no problems..just maintenance. as compared to my 2000 bmw 3-series 150k which suffered from sub frame issues, control arms, water pump, window regulators, wheel bearings, differential mounts, leaky AC hoses, corroded plugs, 2 air bag sensors, heated seats, fog light housings and my 2008 infiniti ex35 15k already needed a steering column!...as far as im concerned the Saab as been great!
  • novemberfox1

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    Dec 23, 2010 5:45 PM GMT
    I've owned one and driven several. My experience is that they are money Pits. SAAB stories icon_razz.gif.
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    Dec 23, 2010 6:13 PM GMT
    They are owning a boat. If you love them you will get one but, like a boat, every dollar you make goes 50/50 to the boat (Saab). If there is an electrical problem...think "electrician" not mechanic for the repair.
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    Dec 23, 2010 6:55 PM GMT
    Haven't read to all the thread, but if you buy a Saab, there can't be too much reasoning behind it. You are that architect or graphical designer or you own your advertising company, and have to subtly stand out for the rest - at any cost. I actually like the older 900 series more. I think the 2000 ones are simply less popular or looked after!
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    Dec 26, 2010 1:52 AM GMT
    sport1983 saidHaven't read to all the thread, but if you buy a Saab, there can't be too much reasoning behind it. You are that architect or graphical designer or you own your advertising company, and have to subtly stand out for the rest - at any cost. I actually like the older 900 series more. I think the 2000 ones are simply less popular or looked after!


    I think you hit the nail on the head there. I also like the older model but it's hard to pick one up without 200,000 on the clock.

    All these comments have given me second, and a hundred and second thoughts, but I'll decided in Jan.

    Thanks for the comments.
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    Dec 27, 2010 2:02 PM GMT
    neffa said
    RoddenShaw saidIt's an old GM platform, with contemporary GM engines/gearboxes and a nice interior. Anything from any other premium manufacturer (Mercedes, BMW, Audi) would be preferable.



    You have a good point but .........
    It would be difficult to find a convertible from one of those premium manufacturers at a price equivalent to a Saab ....



    That might be the case where you are but in the UK and Ireland it's not difficult to find a good quality E36 3 series for similar money.
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    Dec 27, 2010 2:34 PM GMT
    They don't drive like Mercedes, BMW, or Audi.

    Hell, they don't drive like my Jetta.

    Saab is what you buy when the extra 7 k or an A4 seems frivolous. Don't be fooled. Get the Audi!
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    Dec 27, 2010 2:37 PM GMT
    My 2001 9-3 has 140k miles on it and I never wanna give it up. I have the 4-door hatchback (not the convertible) and I use it like a truck (I shoved an 8ft Christmas tree back there most recently). The maintenance repairs have been minimal, and costs have been contained by finding an independent Saab mechanic rather than going to the dealer (once it fell out of warranty).
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    Dec 27, 2010 2:48 PM GMT
    If you insist on automotive cachet, it's a nice car with some charming idiosyncrasies...like torque steer.
    I'd wager that any 10 year old car in the near-lux class is gonna have some niggling, and expensive issues. There may be more practical choices.