Londoners

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    Dec 22, 2010 9:07 PM GMT
    To all the Londoners or those that have lived here, what did/do you love about London? I moved here to do my postgraduate studies and then continue on finding a job. On my way to that purpose I got a bit set off by London. It has probably much to do with all the bad experiences I have had here in such a short period of time. I therefore, am thinking of moving to Paris or any other city (after my studies) where I enjoyed living.

    I must say that people in London are just amazing. I love the diversity (in every sense) and the friendliness (whether it's fake or real). Also, I love many other things, but the bad things somehow overshadow 'em for me.

    Wonder what you all think.

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    Dec 22, 2010 10:26 PM GMT
    I love the fact that I can be myself at almost all times. I adore the cultural and ethnic diversity. I love that every day can provide a new and exciting experience, if one is open to it. I love the finer architecture and the magnificent (if fragile) public transport system.

    I detest how expensive the city is to live in, particularly in terms of property and transport. Sometimes it's too impersonal. The size of the city can make it extremely difficult to maintain friendships (I have only seen one of my friends more than four times this year).

    What problems have you experienced in London to make you want to move on?
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    Dec 22, 2010 11:08 PM GMT
    RoddenShaw saidI love the fact that I can be myself at almost all times. I adore the cultural and ethnic diversity. I love that every day can provide a new and exciting experience, if one is open to it. I love the finer architecture and the magnificent (if fragile) public transport system.

    I detest how expensive the city is to live in, particularly in terms of property and transport. Sometimes it's too impersonal. The size of the city can make it extremely difficult to maintain friendships (I have only seen one of my friends more than four times this year).

    What problems have you experienced in London to make you want to move on?


    Yeah, I agree with most of what you say, though I think the architecture is not impressive and the public transport is not effective. It's great it's there, but it doesn't function as it should. Also, when they strike or decide to shut down transport, such as this Saturday for Christmas, they don't reimburse. In Paris at least they do.

    Well, I have experienced some horrible housing issues. I've moved three times in 4 months. I just don't understand why I would want to pay so much money for being in a city that doesn't offer me what makes me happy I think. A big part of that is good housing conditions. I love big cities, don't get me wrong, but I don't see what I am paying for. Also, I cycle a lot, but the roads are just horrible for cyclists, even dangerous due to huge holes and cracks in the road.

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    Dec 22, 2010 11:14 PM GMT
    The finer architecture is extremely impressive in London. I wasn't suggesting that it is good in general, however - there's too much '50s and '60s trash for it to be so.

    The public transport system is pretty impressive in its scale and scope. It faces some fairly unique challenges (old and awkward infrastructure, decades of under investment, lack of time for maintenance and upgrades) and faces up to them quite well. The unions are another matter - the boxing day strike is quite vulgar.

    Cycling in the city is certainly dangerous and I wouldn't recommend it to anybody. I don't know anybody who has cycled in the city for more than a couple of years who hasn't had at least one serious accident, myself included.

    Housing is expensive, but less so than in Paris. In fact London is, on average, slightly cheaper than Paris so if housing and the general cost of living is the main challenge for you I wouldn't suggest that you pick Paris as your next stop.
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    Dec 22, 2010 11:36 PM GMT
    RoddenShaw saidThe finer architecture is extremely impressive in London. I wasn't suggesting that it is good in general, however - there's too much '50s and '60s trash for it to be so.

    The public transport system is pretty impressive in its scale and scope. It faces some fairly unique challenges (old and awkward infrastructure, decades of under investment, lack of time for maintenance and upgrades) and faces up to them quite well. The unions are another matter - the boxing day strike is quite vulgar.

    Cycling in the city is certainly dangerous and I wouldn't recommend it to anybody. I don't know anybody who has cycled in the city for more than a couple of years who hasn't had at least one serious accident, myself included.

    Housing is expensive, but less so than in Paris. In fact London is, on average, slightly cheaper than Paris so if housing and the general cost of living is the main challenge for you I wouldn't suggest that you pick Paris as your next stop.


    Yeah, there's a lot of 50's and 60's trash.

    Yes it is impressive, but it's not worth its current price. Prices should be decreased tremendously.

    The danger for me doesn't lie in the other traffic participants but more on the roads themselves. Also, I don't understand why Londoners cycle so fast. LOL, it's so funny, it's like they're all geared up for the 'tour de france'. But that doesn't annoy me so much.

    Honestly, I don't think that's really the case. I know that's what statistics say, but I've lived in Paris for two years. Not only was my rent much lower, I had my own all incl. studio all the time, and I lived super central, 10 minutes walk from the eiffel tower and two minutes walk to the champs elysees, but I also received a subsidy from the government of 197 euros a month because I was a student. Here in London student housing is more expensive than any form of housing, and it's not even central. Most houses are in filthy ex-council flats with untidy flatmates and no living rooms. In Paris at least you'll live in a beautiful building, even if it's a chambre de bonne.