Derailing repeal of DADT

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    Dec 23, 2010 8:38 PM GMT
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/12/mitch_mcconnells_bid_to_kill_d.html

    "According to sources in the repeal movement and confirmed by independent Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman's office, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell was trying to move, without debate, an amendment to the defense authorization bill that would have added the military service chiefs to the certification process."

    Can't say I'm surprised really. Is it possible to think these people will try to reverse the repeal let's say should they get a person in the White House to dislike gays as much as Bush?
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    Dec 23, 2010 10:06 PM GMT
    You have to debate before making any changes to any existing or recent legislation. Some of these republicans seem to have forgotten how our system of government works. Oh well, what do you expect from some of these extremist right wingers.
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    Dec 23, 2010 10:08 PM GMT
    Of course they'll try to derail it. That's why we need to do more work promoting the idea that homophobia is just latent/hidden homosexuality.

    I've successfully gotten that point across at work, so now everyone is afraid to talk shit against gays because they'll be labeled as gay. icon_lol.gif
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    Dec 23, 2010 10:44 PM GMT
    A Republican, you say?
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    Dec 23, 2010 10:53 PM GMT
    Gee, is this what I've been predicting as a possibility here for weeks now, and getting lambasted for it? Called a "paranoid" and every other kind of personal attack?

    I simply know Republicans, and how the legislative system works. What they'll try to do, as I've been saying, is to attach these anti-gay amendments to essential bills that must be passed. That the Republicans hope will be impossible for Democrats to refuse to pass without heavy political damage. Watch and see... icon_sad.gif
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    Dec 24, 2010 2:25 AM GMT
    Mind you I wasn't exactly a stellar student in my Gov't class but I don't remember the repeal of laws being discussed. I think it's pretty sneaking to include lines in bills in effort to stop short a repeal.

    I hope we'll never come to the point as a country where this bill comes back up for debate. However, I'm sure this isn't the last stand for those who would like to throw a wrench in gay rights. Not being a doom and gloom-er, but it they would do this what else could they be capable of?
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    Dec 24, 2010 3:18 AM GMT
    As Commander-In-Chief of ALL U.S. forces, President Obama can issue a military order (as opposed to an executive order) that changes military policy. He IS Commander-In-Chief...PERIOD. A MILITARY order bypasses the Executive Branch, entirely. (The law just passed may have restricted that in some way...I don't know, but, on any given day...The President can give a military order for just about any reason.)

    GOP is positioning to accommodate the far right in all their maneuvers. They know they can't stop it, but, as usual, they'll make it cost three times as much, and obstruct it where possible. It's what they do.
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    Dec 24, 2010 5:19 AM GMT
    This is why I have been saying don't count our chickens before they hatch. O sold this law as a way for the military to keep control of the process. There will be also sorts of bullshit going on to interfer with a legitimate implementation of gays serving openly and safely in the military.

    O is not a staunch friend and suppporter of gay rights. He's a back-stabbing weazeling motherfucker! And we should not trust him one iota!
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    Dec 24, 2010 5:23 AM GMT
    chuckystud saidAs Commander-In-Chief of ALL U.S. forces, President Obama can issue a military order (as opposed to an executive order) that changes military policy. He IS Commander-In-Chief...PERIOD. A MILITARY order bypasses the Executive Branch, entirely. (The law just passed may have restricted that in some way...I don't know, but, on any given day...The President can give a military order for just about any reason.)

    GOP is positioning to accommodate the far right in all their maneuvers. They know they can't stop it, but, as usual, they'll make it cost three times as much, and obstruct it where possible. It's what they do.

    He can't change a law except in a military war zine. Like the Emanupation Proclamation only applied to those areas in the US in an open state of rebellion. It didn't even apply to those portions of southern states under the military's control. He could do a stop loss order. But that would only stop the discharge and only temporarily.

    Our best option is for the courts to strike DADT down, once and for all!