Question for People on a Low Carb Plan

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    Dec 27, 2010 12:51 AM GMT
    I just plugged in the numbers and this is how my calories worked out today

    Calories: 2149
    Fat: 68%
    Protein: 22%
    Carbs: 10%

    Also managed 21g of fiber.

    Is this ok, or should I up my protein intake and decrease my fat intake? Does it matter as long as my carbs stay under 20%?

    Oh, and plenty of water. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 27, 2010 4:44 AM GMT
    ThisJourney saidI just plugged in the numbers and this is how my calories worked out today

    Calories: 2149
    Fat: 68%
    Protein: 22%
    Carbs: 10%

    Also managed 21g of fiber.

    Is this ok, or should I up my protein intake and decrease my fat intake? Does it matter as long as my carbs stay under 20%?

    Oh, and plenty of water. icon_biggrin.gif


    Your diet is idiotic. Your brain needs 100g of carbs a day to work right. Don't you read?

    2149 * .10 = 214.9
    214.9 / 4 = 53.725

    54 grams of carbs is NOT enough.

    This diet will compromise your cognitive ability, exercise performance, lean muscle mass, and slow your metabolism to a crawl.

    You don't need 162 grams of fat.
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    Dec 27, 2010 5:03 AM GMT
    There is literally no reason to be eating that tiny amount of carbs. Carbs are good for you...they are your body's primary energy source.

    The reason why people usually say they are "anti-carb" is because simple carbs (processed breads, pastas, things with lots of sugar like sodas, pastries, etc) are bad for you. They are essentially nutritional empty space. But whole wheat grains, fruits and veggies are incredibly healthy, nutritious and are necessary for your diet. I think people hear mostly about the dangers of the first type of carbs and therefore wrongly assume all carbs are bad...definitely not true or healthy.

    A good healthy diet plan for a lean, muscular body is as follows: you should be eating about one gram of protein for every pound you weigh (unless you are aiming for body-building levels of muscle, in that case more). That roughly translates to 4 calories for every gram. You should be eating about half a gram of fat for every pound you weigh, which translates to about 9 calories per gram. Subtract those calories from your daily intake. The rest of those calories should be from healthy carbs (once again, whole wheat grains like breads and oatmeals, veggies and fruit).
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    Dec 27, 2010 5:10 AM GMT
    BlueBlur saidThe avg. 180 pound guy should take in about 75-90 grams of healthy fat and about 1.5-2 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight when going low carb. Use that as a rough guide, adjust for your stats, and you should be fine.


    What are some examples of these healthy fats we're supposed to be eating?
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    Dec 27, 2010 5:45 AM GMT
    Hi thisjourney,

    I will spare you another condescending answer and just get right to your question. Not having the adequate information to make informed choices on your diet does not make you an idiot. The fact that you asked this question here only tells us that you don't have a lot of good information. (Now, if you had the right info to make the right choices and you didn't apply that knowledge properly, then the adjective might apply in that situation).

    When you have a question like this, I would try to stay away from online forums like this one. You have to realize that many people here are trying to improve their bodies, but they may know just as much (or less) as you. There's a lot of misinformation out there. It's probably best to consult a nutritionist or dietitian. Having said that, I think I might help a little. But as already stated, I think you'd benefit from a professional.

    First, your diet is very bad. But it's something you can improve! You should be shooting for these ratios: 45-65% carbs, 20-35% fats, 10-35% protein. [*FN] Low carb and low fat diets can have a negative impact on your health. You need carbs to carry out brain functions and to have the energy you need to make it through the day. Going to the gym and not eating carbs will not help you make gains. Carbs should be your friends. But the important thing is to choose your carbs wisely. Getting carbs from legumes, grains, and veggies is best. Avoid cheap heavy carbs from potato chips, white bread, and processed things like that. Scientific evidence (unlike things you hear from the media) have demonstrated that unless you have a few specific health conditions, low carb diets are inadequate for the majority of people.

    If you're concerned about carbs, then aim for the low end of the recommendations. You might want do a 50 carb, 25 fat, 25 protein ratio, or something like that. Most important, is the breakdown of the composition of foods that are getting you those ratios. 68% of fat is very alarming, but the most alarming part is probably the fact that all that fat is coming from saturated fat sources and not from healthy omega fatty acids or other unsaturated fats. Of the 20-35% recommendation, only 7% or less should come from saturated fats. [*FN] That stuff is what causes heart disease and contributes to cancers and other bad things.

    So your homework is to do some research on good carb and fat sources. Spend some time googling those and make a list of good carb foods and fat foods. Then change your diet accordingly. If you are in doubt about anything, remember to consult a professional. Good luck and let us know how the diet goes. icon_smile.gif

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    *FN. These are the Dietary Reference Intakes recommended by the Institute of Medicine of the National Academies Food and Nutrition Board.
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    BlueBlur saidThe avg. 180 pound guy should take in about 75-90 grams of healthy fat and about 1.5-2 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight when going low carb. Use that as a rough guide, adjust for your stats, and you should be fine.


    What are some examples of these healthy fats we're supposed to be eating?


    I get a feeling that someone with abs like yours already knows the answer to this icon_wink.gif... but off the top of my head here are some choices I like: salmon, almonds, walnuts, natural peanut butter, eggs, olive oil, and flaxseeds. These foods are high in monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats, and many are packed with heart healthy Omega-3 fatty acids. I try to eat at least one of these items with every meal, especially when I cycle with a low carb diet to cut fat faster.

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    Dec 27, 2010 6:10 AM GMT
    To be fair to the OP his question asked about how his calorie intake stacked up for someone who wanted to do a low carb diet. He did not ask for advice on how to create a balanced carb/fat/protein diet to build muscle. I am sure the OP is intelligent enough to have his reasons for wanting to try a low carb diet as opposed to one rich with complex carbs.

    As someone who has successfully pulled off a low carb diet on many occasions I can tell the OP that it is a way to shed fat quicker than a more well rounded, higher carb diet. And don't let the doom and gloom posts get to you. I cycled on a low carb diet while hitting the gym 5 days a week (weights and cardio), working part time, and going to law school- and my brain is still in one piece. Having said that going low carb does slow you down somewhat physically and mentally, but the effects subside as your body adjusts. You will lose some muscle mass, so if your goal is to put on more muscle then follow the diets of one of the above posters.

    If this is the route you want to go I would also recommend you cycle going low carb with a higher (good) carb diet to prevent too much muscle loss. This also confuses your body and maximizes your fat loss results. I did a 1 week low, 2 week moderate carb cycle and saw great results.

    Think about what goal you have in mind for your body, and choose your diet appropriately. Finally, I don't give nutrition advice unless I've used it myself and seen successful results. Low carb diets are not the way to live 24/7/365, but they are an effective and useful way to mix things up and burn off some unwanted pounds. Best of luck.
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    Dec 27, 2010 6:33 AM GMT
    BlueBlur saidTo be fair to the OP his question asked about how his calorie intake stacked up for someone who wanted to do a low carb diet. He did not ask for advice on how to create a balanced carb/fat/protein diet to build muscle. I am sure the OP is intelligent enough to have his reasons for wanting to try a low carb diet as opposed to one rich with complex carbs.


    To be fair, the FP asked about how he should suture an open wound that spans 5 inches across his leg and what type of surgical equipment he should use to perform this by himself. He did not ask for advice on how to seek medical attention or get a ride to the hospital. I am sure the FP is intelligent enough to have his reasons for wanting to try to perform surgery on himself as opposed to seeking medical help.

    Oh wait, I think it gets better.

    To be fair, the FP asked about how as an employer he should go on about discriminating against that gay person who applied for the job without getting sued. He did not ask for advice on how to create a work environment that complies with anti discrimination regulations. He just wants to know how to get away with it. I am sure the FP is intelligent enough to have his reasons for wanting to exclude gays from the workplace.

    I sure hope that as a new attorney, your prospective clients get better advice than that. But what do I know...




    BlueBlur saidAs someone who has successfully pulled off a low carb diet on many occasions I can tell the OP that it is a way to shed fat quicker than a more well rounded, higher carb diet.

    If this is the route you want to go I would also recommend you cycle going low carb with a higher (good) carb diet to prevent too much muscle loss. This also confuses your body and maximizes your fat loss results. I did a 1 week low, 2 week moderate carb cycle and saw great results.


    And this is why posting questions of such nature are the wrong place in an online forum such as this. Personal anecdotal accounts are not the same as scientific evidence backed by empirical research. Perhaps they could be useful to some people but they must be taken with a grain of salt.
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    Dec 27, 2010 6:51 AM GMT
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    BlueBlur saidTo be fair to the OP his question asked about how his calorie intake stacked up for someone who wanted to do a low carb diet. He did not ask for advice on how to create a balanced carb/fat/protein diet to build muscle. I am sure the OP is intelligent enough to have his reasons for wanting to try a low carb diet as opposed to one rich with complex carbs.


    To be fair, the FP asked about how he should suture an open wound that spans 5 inches across his leg and what type of surgical equipment he should use to perform this by himself. He did not ask for advice on how to seek medical attention or get a ride to the hospital. I am sure the FP is intelligent enough to have his reasons for wanting to try to perform surgery on himself as opposed to seeking medical help.

    Oh wait, I think it gets better.

    To be fair, the FP asked about how as an employer he should go on about discriminating against that gay person who applied for the job without getting sued. He did not ask for advice on how to create a work environment that complies with anti discrimination regulations. He just wants to know how to get away with it. I am sure the FP is intelligent enough to have his reasons for wanting to exclude gays from the workplace.

    I sure hope that as a new attorney, your prospective clients get better advice than that. But what do I know...




    BlueBlur saidAs someone who has successfully pulled off a low carb diet on many occasions I can tell the OP that it is a way to shed fat quicker than a more well rounded, higher carb diet.

    If this is the route you want to go I would also recommend you cycle going low carb with a higher (good) carb diet to prevent too much muscle loss. This also confuses your body and maximizes your fat loss results. I did a 1 week low, 2 week moderate carb cycle and saw great results.


    And this is why posting questions of such nature are the wrong place in an online forum such as this. Personal anecdotal accounts are not the same as scientific evidence backed by empirical research. Perhaps they could be useful to some people but they must be taken with a grain of salt.


    What's your problem college? The OP came to the forum to ask others about advice on being on a low carb diet. My personal career as a lawyer is none of your damn business, so fuck off. Not only are your attempts to make a comparison to the legal world flat out pathetic, by your logic everyone on RJ is an idiot for asking questions about their issues instead of seeking "professional" advice stamped with a nice, safe citation.

    If the OP wanted to seek professional nutritional advice he wouldn't have come here. He's a grown man who asked for tips about his diet plan- not your condescending attitude. Are you a doctor? No. Have you even tried a low carb diet before? The fact that you would even take the time to reply with such a conceded post speaks volumes about your self-serving character. Give your advice, I'll give mine, and the rest of the world can make up their own damn mind. Despite your glaring "I know better than you because I read it on the internet" attitude, I too have read several studies to support my position, and I have the best one of all: my real life personal experience, which is what the RJ forums are all about.

    Any moron with google can put a citation on one study they pulled off the web. Don’t forget, the Institute of Medicine is the same group who 30 years ago knew for a fact that all fats were equal, and bad for you. Scientific studies like this are a dime a dozen, and believe it or not scientists do disagree sometimes. Go make better use of your time and stop trying to be the god of all nutrition advice.
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    Dec 27, 2010 11:10 AM GMT
    collegestudd saidHi thisjourney,

    I will spare you another condescending answer and just get right to your question. Not having the adequate information to make informed choices on your diet does not make you an idiot..


    No, it just makes you lazy and ignorant. LOL. A lazy idiot.
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    Dec 27, 2010 11:50 AM GMT
    Um... wow.

    But back to the OP. How on earth do you even get down to getting only 10% of your calories from carb? Anyway, aim for 20-30% since your brain will burn them anyway. Go for low GI/GL sources. Or just add some rolled oats to your breakfast (soak them overnight). Whole grain flours are still flours, just with a bit more fiber and vitamins. As far as I can tell all the studies showing positive effects of whole grain is based on situations where things like oatmeal, wheat bran, or soaked rye kernels replace a flour heavy meal.

    And if I recall correctly the recommendation of 60% of your energy from carbohydrate is based on some post-WW2 guide lines on how to keep your family relatively healthy on a limited budget. So yeah, if you are poor you should definitely go for whole grain pasta etc.
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    Dec 27, 2010 12:30 PM GMT
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    BlueBlur saidTo be fair to the OP his question asked about how his calorie intake stacked up for someone who wanted to do a low carb diet. He did not ask for advice on how to create a balanced carb/fat/protein diet to build muscle. I am sure the OP is intelligent enough to have his reasons for wanting to try a low carb diet as opposed to one rich with complex carbs.


    To be fair, the FP asked about how he should suture an open wound that spans 5 inches across his leg and what type of surgical equipment he should use to perform this by himself. He did not ask for advice on how to seek medical attention or get a ride to the hospital. I am sure the FP is intelligent enough to have his reasons for wanting to try to perform surgery on himself as opposed to seeking medical help.

    Oh wait, I think it gets better.

    To be fair, the FP asked about how as an employer he should go on about discriminating against that gay person who applied for the job without getting sued. He did not ask for advice on how to create a work environment that complies with anti discrimination regulations. He just wants to know how to get away with it. I am sure the FP is intelligent enough to have his reasons for wanting to exclude gays from the workplace.

    I sure hope that as a new attorney, your prospective clients get better advice than that. But what do I know...




    BlueBlur saidAs someone who has successfully pulled off a low carb diet on many occasions I can tell the OP that it is a way to shed fat quicker than a more well rounded, higher carb diet.

    If this is the route you want to go I would also recommend you cycle going low carb with a higher (good) carb diet to prevent too much muscle loss. This also confuses your body and maximizes your fat loss results. I did a 1 week low, 2 week moderate carb cycle and saw great results.


    And this is why posting questions of such nature are the wrong place in an online forum such as this. Personal anecdotal accounts are not the same as scientific evidence backed by empirical research. Perhaps they could be useful to some people but they must be taken with a grain of salt.





    blueblurWhat's your problem college? The OP came to the forum to ask others about advice on being on a low carb diet. My personal career as a lawyer is none of your damn business, so fuck off.


    lol. Seems I struck a cord. Sorry I touched a sensitive spot about your lawyering capabilities. You may now go ahead and sue for intentional infliction of emotional distress. I guess some lawyers tend to have a flare for the dramatic. The "fuck off" was so poignant and magnificently delivered it had me shivering with suspense. No, really. icon_smile.gif

    BTW it should be noted that despite three years of reading case law, somehow reading comprehension managed to elude you. You claim the FP came to ask advice on "being on a low carb diet." His actual question was: "Based on my ratios, should I up my protein intake and decrease my fat intake? Does it matter as long as my carbs stay under 20%?." Way to go, Einstein.


    blueblurNot only are your attempts to make a comparison to the legal world flat out pathetic, by your logic everyone on RJ is an idiot for asking questions about their issues instead of seeking "professional" advice stamped with a nice, safe citation.


    Well, logic also escapes you. When people come asking who's hot above you?, is your boyfriend cheating?, is your left hand gay?, what are you reading?, how do I marinade chicken? (all questions on the main page now) I hardly think the analogy applies. Those questions (the vast majority here) are for socializing. However, if someone comes asking "is my toe going to fall off from frostbite?", "should i get a lawyer after I hit a pedestrian?" well, then by all means the analogy applies.


    blueblur
    Give your advice, I'll give mine, and the rest of the world can make up their own damn mind.


    Seems like you ought to take your own advice every once in a while. I guess I wrote that reply that ended up hurting your feelings because you got your panties tied up and decided to not only give your advice, but criticize the two people on the thread who mentioned that low carb diets may not be the way to go (travelfan and me). Since you felt compelled to come out and point that the FP was "supposedly" asking for low carb diet help and that others need to stick to the question presented, I figured you deserved the response that you got. Since reading comprehension seems to be a problem for you, I guess you just didn't read the true, undeserving, uncalled for, condescending replies that the FP received.

    blueblurDespite your glaring "I know better than you because I read it on the internet" attitude, I too have read several studies to support my position, and I have the best one of all: my real life personal experience, which is what the RJ forums are all about. Any moron with google can put a citation on one study they pulled off the web. Don’t forget, the Institute of Medicine is the same group who 30 years ago knew for a fact that all fats were equal, and bad for you. Scientific studies like this are a dime a dozen, and believe it or not scientists do disagree sometimes.


    Part of the problem we face in this country is that lawyers make up 2/3 of those who enact the laws. Your explanation tells me it is pointless to try to have a debate about science because that is a statement that only a person without a science background would make. Social science is quite different from actual science. They are both very valuable for completely different reasons, but you apparently can't distinguish the two. The fact that you think your real life experience is superior to empirical data makes me just want to put my hands up and surrender; there's just not getting through. Thank God for patent attorneys, and those who have some interdisciplinary training. Unfortunately, they are not the ones running for public office. The lack of knowledge in science of some members of Congress is the reason they make a fuss about evolution being taught in schools or that greenhouse gases do not heat the earth. It doesn't mean they are stupid for making those arguments (after all there are many very smart lawyers who never studied science). It just means that some of them try to have debates about things they don't know much about.

    See what you made me do? I was trying to be all good and nice, but you just had to get all "fuck off collegestudd" and make me be a meanie....lol. icon_razz.gif
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    Dec 27, 2010 3:32 PM GMT
    My plan is for weight loss, so I don't know if cycling is right for me. Also, I read here about 1 gram of protein for each pound of bodyweight. How do you do that?
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    Dec 27, 2010 5:12 PM GMT
    You don't have enough information and don't have a good enough basis to be asking the question here.

    There's various equations, but, you failed to complete your profile, so even the most basic stuff can't be calculated.

    You need to sit down with a real person, or research this yourself.

    I can tell you that, in general, low carb diets are bad ideas, for most people.

    I can tell you that,.... only resistance training INCREASES your lean muscle mass as you grow older.

    I can tell you that very low carbs (less than about 75 g of carbs daily) is VERY bad for you and doesn't just impair your cognitive function, but, also, slows your metabolism to a crawl, as your body burns up lean muscle mass to stay alive.

    Carbs are protein sparing, at the level you're at.

    Glucose is your body's preferred energy source, and burning up what little muscle you have, as well as putting yourself into ketosis for extended periods, is STUPID, and not only teaches your body how to become a slow, fat-storing, machine, but catabolizes what little muscle you might have. That's heads you in COMPLETELY the wrong direction.

    You've gone from dumb to dumber.

    Get some real, in person, help and READ.

    Eat, get your metabolism up, get resistance training, and HIIT, for cardiac health, lean muscle mass, and a fast metabolism.

    You're doing one of the very worst things you can do with regard to eating.
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    Dec 27, 2010 5:49 PM GMT
    I agree with the posters that state that a "Low Carb" plan is NOT the way to go. Yes, you will lose weight, but you will also lose fat-burning muscle, and once you go off the "Low Carb" plan you will likely find yourself right back where you started -- or worse -- so why bother if it will ultimately be a huge waste of time that doesn't really help you reach your ultimate goal -- which should be "Fitness", NOT simply weight loss.

    Better to focus on when and what you eat. Portion control is vital. Ideally, if you can eat something (a small portion) 5 times a day, focusing on healthy carb intake early in the day, moving into proteins later in the day, you should see some positive results. Just be patient and don't go for the fast weight loss. It's only short-term and the weight will return.

    I try to eat something (small) every 2-to-3 hours to keep myself from getting too hungry -- because if you allow yourself to get too hungry you can tend to over-eat. If you're truly serious about losing the weight, I would cut out alcohol, breads, pastas, and white rice (brown rice is okay) and focus on fruits, veggies, meats, and fish.

    One thing I have recently discovered that has really helped me get off of breads is Trader Joe's Brown Rice Tortillas. They are wheat and gluten free, as well as sugar free. They are also excellent to roll scrambled eggs in for breakfast with a little salsa, and I love them for a turkey wrap for lunch. I have found that things like almonds and baby carrots are nice to have around to just nibble on and keep from getting hungry in between meals.

    Hope that helps, and good luck!!!
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    Dec 27, 2010 6:37 PM GMT
    My problem with you college is that you took a simple post about nutrition and dragged in my personal career and tried to use it as an insult. Researching facts and opinions is my job, and I'm damn good at it. If you don't agree with my nutrition advice that's fine, but don't go off on some tirade against lawyers like you know better. It makes you sound jealous.

    Anyway, I've shared my successful personal experiences to the OP and now it's back to my career helping people in need with their legal problems. Keep up the college dream buddy. icon_rolleyes.gif



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    Dec 27, 2010 6:40 PM GMT
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    collegestudd saidHi thisjourney,

    I will spare you another condescending answer and just get right to your question. Not having the adequate information to make informed choices on your diet does not make you an idiot..


    No, it just makes you lazy and ignorant. LOL. A lazy idiot.


    Ugh, Chucky"stud" rears his ugly personality again............

    to the OP: I think you should try having a consultation with a nutritionist who you can speak with in person.... to discuss your personal goals in terms of fitness, weight loss/gain etc. You came on here looking for answers and instead get people insulting you. They are assholes - I suggest the ignore button icon_smile.gif

    All the best.

    BTW... Use common sense! Eat lots of veggies, healthy carbs, and lean meats. Avoid the excess fat and processed foods... anyway... Nutritionist all the way. icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 28, 2010 1:27 AM GMT
    I just plugged in the numbers and this is how my calories worked out today (the numbers are rounded)

    Calories: 2274
    Fat:58%
    Protein: 31%
    Carbs: 12%
    Fiber: 16 grams

    Lost count of my water but it was a loticon_exclaim.gif

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    Dec 28, 2010 2:17 AM GMT
    ThisJourney saidI just plugged in the numbers and this is how my calories worked out today (the numbers are rounded)

    Calories: 2274
    Fat:58%
    Protein: 31%
    Carbs: 12%
    Fiber: 16 grams

    Lost count of my water but it was a loticon_exclaim.gif



    Journey, your ratios are still off for the plan you're trying to take. Below I've included a link you might find helpful. It's a 6 week get lean diet plan by muscle and fitness magazine. It starts off with (gasp!) a low carb diet to get your body back in fat burning mode. You'll then up your carbs after the first 4 days to make sure you don't crash your metabolism. Like I've said, going low carb can be good for you as long as you don't make it a permanent lifestyle. Follow the directions carefully and I have no doubt you'll see results. While you’re there look around. The site has lots of good information and meal plans from nutritionists. Good luck.

    http://www.muscleandfitness.com/6_weeks_lean/nutrition/54
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    Dec 28, 2010 2:39 AM GMT
    Lot of really strongly opinionated posts.

    Opinions on the subject are great but, here's some actual personal experiences related to the OP's subject that I've had in the past year.

    After a lot of research, I realized that my body type is endomorph/mesomorph, some ratio of the 2. The endomorph body type "acts" as if it is insulin resistant. (Reason I say it acts, its because I've done blood work every 3 months in the past year-- benefit of working in a hospital, and noticed that I was not insulin resistant by blood panel levels)

    In other words, I would gain weight from eating too many carbs a lot faster than I would say from eating mostly fat or protein. I decided to do the 3 day carb cycling, high carbs, low carbs, no carbs and repeat.

    After 4 months, I just switched to a regular 40% carbs, 30% protein, 30% fat and cut down on animal products, except for fish and some chicken on occasion. The switch-back was because I wanted to stop caring about each thing I ate. However the carbs that I consume now are all whole wheat anything. I stay away from processed stuff as much as possible. I'm still toning up the remaining fat and I feel great.

    Do I think the plan is unhealthy? who cares what I think, it worked great for me, while everyone at work was sick with the cold and flu, I was feeling great, lot of energy, my sports performance improved, I lost weight at an average 2 lbs a week. And my blood panel improved too in the cholesterol/lipid area mostly (probably attributed to the choice of meats?).
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    Dec 28, 2010 5:29 AM GMT
    ThisJourney saidMy plan is for weight loss, so I don't know if cycling is right for me. Also, I read here about 1 gram of protein for each pound of bodyweight. How do you do that?


    I actually find it pretty hard not to get that much protein daily, but then again I love meat...if you don't, it would be harder. I get it mainly from chicken deli meat for lunch and a grilled chicken breast for dinner. An 8oz grilled chicken breast has over 45g of protein alone, and I probably get around 25g from the amount of chicken in my sandwich. In addition, the amounts of protein I get from milk, eggs, whole wheat bread and peanuts (all things I eat daily) put me at my target amount. Lastly, on days when I lift I mix whey protein powder with milk which adds something like 24g.
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    Is there ANY topic that doesn't result in someone's vagina flopping out all over the board within 5 replies?