Metro in LA - The Subway - What wrong with it?

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    Dec 28, 2010 2:53 AM GMT
    I wanted to take the Metro from LAX into downtown LA.
    Want to see what the Metro is like.

    My friend emailed me and wrote:

    "FOR GOD'S SAKE DO NOT TAKE THE METRO, R U CRAZY?"


    Can someone tell me what he means?
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    Dec 28, 2010 7:10 AM GMT
    I love the Metro. But only if my destination was conveniently located near a Metro station. See, that's the problem with our rail system. The routes/stations are somewhat limited and spread out.

    There's no direct route from LAX to DTLA. From the airport, you have to take a bus or a shuttle to a Green line station. Then get on the Blue line to DTLA. The Blue line does go through some rough neighborhoods. Maybe that's what your friend is referring to. But I've never had any problems. As long as you go during the day, there are plenty of other people on board. And cops do patrol the trains and stations. Just don't ride in the late evenings. And don't look like a tourist. icon_lol.gif

    Get the day pass. I think it's still $5. Unlimited rides/routes. If not, then you have to pay the fare for each line you get on, each way. LA traffic sucks. I would only recommend driving if you needed to go somewhere that wasn't near a Metro station or bus route connected to a Metro station.
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    Dec 28, 2010 11:21 AM GMT
    Don't look like a tourist?
    I'll have a rollerboard and another bag.
    Would be around noon I would be on the Metro.
    IS that ok?
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    Dec 28, 2010 3:23 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said

    There was a time, about 90 years ago, when Los Angeles was saturated with light rail lines.

    But as cars became more and more popular, ridership declined and by the 1960s, all passenger service had ended and most of the tracks have been torn up. That's why if you drive down Burton Way near Beverly Hills, you'll see this wide area right in the middle of the street that is now a park - that's where the tracks used to go.

    Anyway, L.A. is slowly coming back to where it was 100 years ago and actually building "new" light rail lines in the exact same places as the old ones were! Problem is, it will take at least 20 years before they have anything even approaching what they need.

    Here's what things looked like about 90 years ago:

    1925_pacific_electric_map.jpg


    WOw that would be cool, you could actually get around the place like a real city, instead of having to take a car driving around sprawling suburbs
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    Dec 28, 2010 4:18 PM GMT
    The rail system is passe!
    Speed, safety and comfort await us in the Highway of the Future!
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    Dec 29, 2010 3:13 AM GMT
    LeanathleticDC saidDon't look like a tourist?
    I'll have a rollerboard and another bag.
    Would be around noon I would be on the Metro.
    IS that ok?

    Hehe. Yeah, you should be all right. And while you're in DTLA, find a food cart that sells bacon wrapped hotdogs. Well, unless you're a vegetarian. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 29, 2010 3:29 AM GMT
    swimbikerun saidThe rail system is passe!
    Speed, safety and comfort await us in the Highway of the Future!


    Why is it that futurologists are always so hopelessly optimistic?
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    Dec 29, 2010 7:21 PM GMT
    swimbikerun saidThe rail system is passe!
    Speed, safety and comfort await us in the Highway of the Future!


    They were certainly correct about the speed! But as for [constant] comfort and safety? What the hell were they thinking?

    I believe that your friend was concerned about you riding the rail from LAX to downtown because the Green Line and Blue Line go through South LA along the Century Freeway (I-105) and then travel north on a rail line in-between Compton Avenue and Alameda Street.


    Just keep your wits about you and you'll be fine.

    BTW-They were so hopeful because it was the 1950's and 1960's and everything was just cheery and swell and perfect, you know? I mean, we would drive rocket cars and men would mate with Moon maidens and we'd all live in perfect harmony!
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    Dec 29, 2010 7:25 PM GMT
    I haven't taken it yet, so I really can't comment.
    I will say that anything is better than taking the highway... the 405 makes me want to blow my own head off!
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    Dec 29, 2010 8:01 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    amar_m said
    WOw that would be cool, you could actually get around the place like a real city, instead of having to take a car driving around sprawling suburbs


    Yep.

    Here's a picture of the "Exposition Line" which ran from downtown L.A. right to the Santa Monica pier:

    air-line-800.jpg


    And what it looks like today:

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    And what it will look like when they rebuild the line in 2015:

    Expo_parkway.jpg


    Look it's a Tram, it's a Tram. Sydney Oz not being the progressive city it like to mark it's self as being made the same mistake some time ago, and got rid of all it's trams, now they wish they had them back again, so much for progressiveness; take something away in the name of progress, and then when you relise you have made a big fuck up, you soon learn how hard it is to fix it.
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    Dec 29, 2010 11:27 PM GMT
    If your going downtown get off near 5th and broadway (5th and hill?) and you will be at the center of downtown. Any direction you take and you will be surround by different cultures.
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    Dec 29, 2010 11:35 PM GMT
    There is a shuttle bus (called the flyaway bus) that will take you to union station and from there you can easily get to downtown via the subway. It is how I use to get to the airport when I lived in downtown LA.

    http://www.lawa.org/welcome_LAX.aspx?id=292

    PS this is a NON-stop bus, so the only delays with have to do with traffic.
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    Dec 29, 2010 11:44 PM GMT
    Yeah- the problem with the metro in Los Angeles is that it doesn't go all around the city. You can go to Pasadena- Long Beach- and North Hollywood- but that's about it... For everything else you have to catch the Metro Buses, which are terrible because some of the people on them smell- and they're dirty- -and the buses are NEVER on time!!!

    You're pretty safe on the Metro Rail- as they are usually filled with people and they all keep to themselves.
    I've even ridden them through the 'bad parts' of town and have also slept on them.