Xcountry : classic or skating

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    Dec 29, 2010 5:01 AM GMT
    went for my first "ride" today , classic style .
    rusty !!! but fun.

    still prefer skating style.

    now wondering how many guys on rj actually xcountry ski, either or both styles.

    please stand up, i feel i'm the only one !!!




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    Dec 29, 2010 5:23 AM GMT
    I'm totally into both classic and skating.

    For me, skating is the most fantastic exercise. A tricky rhythm, and a blast once mastered (I'm a work in progress).

    But classic takes you places you can't go with skate skis.

    So both I think are superb.
  • mke_bt

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    Dec 29, 2010 5:41 AM GMT

    Classic here. I'm fortunate to live in WI where good trails are right around the corner. Literally. There's a trail that starts a block from my house that takes you to Lake Michigan. It's great living in the middle of the city and having a resource like that at your "ski tips".
    ? Any hints on hitting your rhythm? Some days it just escapes me.
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    Dec 29, 2010 5:46 AM GMT
    LOL, some days (most days!) that crazy rhythm escapes me as well.

    I'm not sure I could describe it in writing, but it is a bit counter intuitive (to me).

    Caused probably by many years of downhill skiing before taking up cross-country. And I learned telemarking before doing classic or skating, which probably adds further confusion.
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    Dec 29, 2010 8:00 PM GMT
    haha.

    yeah, takes a while to get into that perfect sync where there are no muscles fighting each other anymore , well, almost. ;p

    been doing it for years and i still experiment and improve .
    and some days you ski like a pro and the day after you look like a beginner.
    like sticking one of your poles on the "wrong" side of a ski. lol.


    i just found this webpage :
    http://biomekanikk.nih.no/xchandbook/index.html

    very detailed.


  • mke_bt

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    Dec 29, 2010 8:08 PM GMT

    Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.
    I'm glad this isn't just an isolated problem.
  • quirkyquirk

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    Dec 29, 2010 8:20 PM GMT
    Used to race in HS.... and I have to say I prefer classical... the weights shift and hip thrust just seem really hard to get good at.... Been at it for a dozen years now and I still have to tweak my technique! But for the summer, I skate with poles... roller skis scare the hell out me!
  • tazzari

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    Jan 02, 2011 2:35 AM GMT
    I used to prefer classic, but a bad ankle injury means about all I can do any more is skating - to my surprise! But in an easy tour,classic takes a lot less energy - you can walk the hills.

    At the moment, I'm at my ranch in BC - skiing out the door, about 15 feet from the porch. 0 F in the mornings, bright sunshine...

    Heading for the Methow Valley in a few weeks with friends; we have a Seattle-based group which skis most weekends.

    Glad there are some other x-c skiers! Here I thought I was the only one!

    Best wishes to all,

    Nat
  • tazzari

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    Jan 02, 2011 2:38 AM GMT
    ? Any hints on hitting your rhythm? Some days it just escapes me.

    I once asked the same question of one of the best skiers in the world, and got the same answer you just gave: some days it just doesn't come together!
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    Jan 03, 2011 2:18 AM GMT
    tazzari saidI used to prefer classic, but a bad ankle injury means about all I can do any more is skating - to my surprise! But in an easy tour,classic takes a lot less energy - you can walk the hills.

    At the moment, I'm at my ranch in BC - skiing out the door, about 15 feet from the porch. 0 F in the mornings, bright sunshine...

    Heading for the Methow Valley in a few weeks with friends; we have a Seattle-based group which skis most weekends.

    Glad there are some other x-c skiers! Here I thought I was the only one!

    Best wishes to all,

    Nat


    haha, not exactly the only one, but i don't think it rates high in the gay psyche..LOL.

    don't know why, watching a guy climbing skating style aggressively is quite sexy i think . =)

    was supposed to go on thursday but i went mtbiking in hard packed snow shoe trails instead. fun icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 03, 2011 2:20 AM GMT
    thanks for posting...i can use this!
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    Jan 03, 2011 2:25 AM GMT
    I was born with ice skates and had surgery for optional ski attachments. Played hockey in HS and College. And out of three, downhill is the besticon_exclaim.gif
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    Jan 03, 2011 5:50 AM GMT
    I pretty much only ski classic cross-country. I like skiing between resorts in the Alps more than I do hitting a tree on a steep downslope. I'm not very coordinated ;).
  • tazzari

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    Jan 03, 2011 3:45 PM GMT
    haha, not exactly the only one, but i don't think it rates high in the gay psyche..LOL.

    I mean come ON! What sport has more fit young guys in lycra, than x-c skiing???!!!

    Some time I'll tell you about the time I was "forced" to shower with the entire World Cup field, after a race in Finland... icon_smile.gif

    Nat
  • tazzari

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    Jan 03, 2011 3:47 PM GMT
    I pretty much only ski classic cross-country. I like skiing between resorts in the Alps more than I do hitting a tree on a steep downslope. I'm not very coordinated ;).

    I really miss those alpine point-to-point skiing days... AND it's a lot less painful to hit a tree going up, than down! ;)

    Nat
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    Jan 08, 2011 3:21 AM GMT
    tazzari saidhaha, not exactly the only one, but i don't think it rates high in the gay psyche..LOL.

    I mean come ON! What sport has more fit young guys in lycra, than x-c skiing???!!!

    Some time I'll tell you about the time I was "forced" to shower with the entire World Cup field, after a race in Finland... icon_smile.gif

    Nat


    some time? how about now!

    i agree with the young .. and not so young fit guys in lycra.
    You also get the not at all fit guys in lycra . IT's a bit hard on the eyes but they don't hurt themselves when they hit trees... either they bounce back or the tree breaks. *almost envious *.

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    Jan 08, 2011 3:29 AM GMT
    I am also a both with preference for skating style. Do you like biathlon?
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    Jan 08, 2011 3:31 AM GMT
    oh yeah it's big gay ski week at Whistler at the end of Jan to 6 Feb....no shortage of the white stuff this year.

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    Jan 08, 2011 4:11 PM GMT
    Do you like biathlon?

    I was in charge of ski prep for the US Biathlon Team in 87-88 (moved to cross-country after that), and I loved it. bad eyes here, though, so I could never shoot well, though I did a lot of air rifle.

    Whistler: I'm just back from my place near Princeton, BC - good snow, and plenty of it. It was pretty cold at night, but sunny, and the trails set up wonderfully,, and made for really vintage skiing. Next year we're going to host some unofficial fun races. 7.2 km of pretty demanding skiing.

    BTW - The China Ridge trail system in Princeton is really very worth checking out. There's lots of it, it's well-maintained, and the views are spectacular.

    Nat
  • tazzari

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    Jan 08, 2011 4:19 PM GMT
    some time? how about now!

    i agree with the young .. and not so young fit guys in lycra.
    You also get the not at all fit guys in lycra . IT's a bit hard on the eyes but they don't hurt themselves when they hit trees... either they bounce back or the tree breaks. *almost envious *


    Lycra: I forget where it's from, but I always bear in mind that "Lycra is a privilege!" Sport Hill for me, these days...

    We had a Polar Cup race in norther Finland in the spring of '87. It blizzarded hard - I mean, really cold, driving snow, wind... So rather than bus the whole field back to where we were staying, which would have been 45 minutes of freezing in the bus, they opened the local high-school gym, and we all showered there. Never saw so many fit guys naked in one room in my life icon_eek.gif, but I was way too cold to be interested in much of anything but standing under the shower and thawing.

    Off topic, but the Scandinavians have such a different attitude toward nakedness and the body. We had an even colder day at Lahti one year, and I remember the Norwegian junior team simply stripping naked in the foyer, and changing. No hiding under towels, turning the back, etc. Really pretty refreshing.

    Heading for the Methow next weekend for 4 days of skiing on trails I didn't have to pack!

    NaT
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    Jan 09, 2011 6:34 PM GMT
    warren_t saidI am also a both with preference for skating style. Do you like biathlon?


    i 've never tried biathlon . And trust me you don't want me with a gun in my hands, hahaha.

    this year i haven't managed skating once even. We have no snow.
    weird, dunno if we could call it climate changes but these past few years, xcountry skiing is becoming a joke in the Montreal area.


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    haha, yeah the scandinavians are really into naturism.
    I think norwegians say they won't do business with anyone till they've seen them naked.


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    Jan 09, 2011 6:59 PM GMT
    xassantex said
    warren_t saidI am also a both with preference for skating style. Do you like biathlon?


    i 've never tried biathlon . And trust me you don't want me with a gun in my hands, hahaha.

    this year i haven't managed skating once even. We have no snow.
    weird, dunno if we could call it climate changes but these past few years, xcountry skiing is becoming a joke in the Montreal area.


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    haha, yeah the scandinavians are really into naturism.
    I think norwegians say they won't do business with anyone till they've seen them naked.




    I started xcountry 2 years ago and loved it ! Not much snow here in Michigan since.
    Hopefully more in late Jan and Feb.icon_smile.gif
  • tazzari

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    Jan 10, 2011 5:52 PM GMT
    I started xcountry 2 years ago and loved it ! Not much snow here in Michigan since.
    Hopefully more in late Jan and Feb.


    If you're in MI, try Forbush Corner, if you haven't already. Some of the best maintained trails in the country, and the friendliest place I've ever skied. Dave Forbush, who runs it, is very out, brilliant at what he does, and an old friend. Tell him Nat sent you!

    Nat
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    Jan 11, 2011 6:24 AM GMT
    wesbell said
    ....

    I started xcountry 2 years ago and loved it ! Not much snow here in Michigan since.
    Hopefully more in late Jan and Feb.icon_smile.gif


    glad you did. It's an awesome sport. icon_smile.gif
    The only that reconciles me with winter , which i hate otherwise.
    *rant* The season is nothing but a long list of aggravations and off the charts energy burning.


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    Jan 24, 2011 12:20 AM GMT
    well i finally got to ski skate this week. winter sucks here.

    oh my...

    having cut back cardio to gain some mass this Fall surely takes its toll.
    plus i always find the first ride hard on the shins.