Conservative Republicans to GOProud: "Go away."

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    Dec 29, 2010 8:32 PM GMT
    I love to watch a political party implode.

    What fun!

    [url]http://www.salon.com/news/cpac/?story=%2Fpolitics%2Fwar_room%2F2010%2F12%2F28%2Fcpac_boycott_goproud[/url]
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    Dec 29, 2010 10:06 PM GMT
    http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/12/28/cpac_boycott_goproud/index.htmlFixed it for ya otter!
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    Dec 29, 2010 10:11 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidhttp://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/12/28/cpac_boycott_goproud/index.htmlFixed it for ya otter!

    Tusen takk, buddy!
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    Dec 29, 2010 11:27 PM GMT
    Sort-of hypocritical. Megan McCain mentioned that you have to meet 8 beliefs out of 10 to be considered to be a republican, or an enemy of Ronald Reagan's enemy. Whatever. GOProud's members would be 9/10 tops, therefore still republican.
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    Dec 30, 2010 1:02 AM GMT
    I saw this and it will be very interesting to see how this plays out.
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    Dec 30, 2010 5:04 AM GMT
    OtterJoq saidI love to watch a political party implode.

    What fun!

    [url]http://www.salon.com/news/cpac/?story=%2Fpolitics%2Fwar_room%2F2010%2F12%2F28%2Fcpac_boycott_goproud[/url]


    Why won't you simply state that you'd love to watch the social conservatives of the Republican Party implode instead? If your motive wasn't that you hate the entire agenda of the GOP then you would realize that there are strong forces within it pushing against the bigots and homophobes, as this obviously shows.
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    Dec 30, 2010 5:48 AM GMT
    Mepark said
    OtterJoq saidI love to watch a political party implode.

    What fun!

    [url]http://www.salon.com/news/cpac/?story=%2Fpolitics%2Fwar_room%2F2010%2F12%2F28%2Fcpac_boycott_goproud[/url]


    Why won't you simply state that you'd love to watch the social conservatives of the Republican Party implode instead? If your motive wasn't that you hate the entire agenda of the GOP then you would realize that there are strong forces within it pushing against the bigots and homophobes, as this obviously shows.


    That didn't even rhyme.
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    Dec 30, 2010 5:58 AM GMT
    sxydrkhair saidYou know what. I am starting to be a Republican if you Libtards stop being nuts. lol Especially crazy people from California.


    Thanks for making my point for me, sxy. SO much easier that way. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 30, 2010 4:00 PM GMT
    I'm sure none of us can be surprised by your blatant misrepresentation of the facts. If anyone actually reads the article it's talking about the fact that 2 republican groups have opted out of CPAC because they embrace the gay conservative group goproud -- and they happen to be vocal about it (someone posted a link to the debate between the leaders of those two groups debating with barron a couple weeks ago). What this means is that the republican party as a whole is having less and less of an issue with gay people.

    There will always be minor groups protesting, but their days are numbered.

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    Dec 30, 2010 4:10 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidI'm sure none of us can be surprised by your blatant misrepresentation of the facts. If anyone actually reads the article it's talking about the fact that 2 republican groups have opted out of CPAC because they embrace the gay conservative group goproud -- and they happen to be vocal about it (someone posted a link to the debate between the leaders of those two groups debating with barron a couple weeks ago). What this means is that the republican party as a whole is having less and less of an issue with gay people.

    There will always be minor groups protesting, but their days are numbered.



    Believe that if you must, but the evidence doesn't support you. Homophobia is as alive in the GOP as it ever was.
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    Dec 30, 2010 4:14 PM GMT
    It's not just 2 groups that are opting out.
    Best analogy I can think of: the gay jock wants to join the straight jocks and cheerleaders at the lunch table and everybody leaves.
    Politics is just high school writ large.
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    Dec 30, 2010 4:28 PM GMT
    Mepark said
    OtterJoq saidI love to watch a political party implode.

    What fun!

    [url]http://www.salon.com/news/cpac/?story=%2Fpolitics%2Fwar_room%2F2010%2F12%2F28%2Fcpac_boycott_goproud[/url]


    Why won't you simply state that you'd love to watch the social conservatives of the Republican Party implode instead? If your motive wasn't that you hate the entire agenda of the GOP then you would realize that there are strong forces within it pushing against the bigots and homophobes, as this obviously shows.

    I think he does hate the whole GOP, but based on his previous posts and his answer to you ("That didn't even rhyme."), he probably does not know why he hates the GOP. He only knows that he does.
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    Dec 30, 2010 7:21 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    Mepark said
    OtterJoq saidI love to watch a political party implode.

    What fun!

    [url]http://www.salon.com/news/cpac/?story=%2Fpolitics%2Fwar_room%2F2010%2F12%2F28%2Fcpac_boycott_goproud[/url]


    Why won't you simply state that you'd love to watch the social conservatives of the Republican Party implode instead? If your motive wasn't that you hate the entire agenda of the GOP then you would realize that there are strong forces within it pushing against the bigots and homophobes, as this obviously shows.

    I think he does hate the whole GOP, but based on his previous posts and his answer to you ("That didn't even rhyme."), he probably does not know why he hates the GOP. He only knows that he does.


    Wrong.

    Again.

    I hate TODAY'S GOP (note the distinction) because they have become a cult...FAR removed from the party I supported in the 70s and 80s.

    When Sarah Palin is your leading light, your party has serious problems.
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    Dec 30, 2010 8:06 PM GMT
    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=244741FRC and CWA join the American Principles Project, American Values, Capital Research Center, the Center for Military Readiness, Liberty Counsel, and the National Organization for Marriage in withdrawing from CPAC. In November, APP organized a boycott of CPAC over the participation of GOProud.
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    "We said GOProud is not a conservative organization," said Staver. "They are undermining the military" by promoting open homosexuality, and "undermining marriage" by opposing the Defense of Marriage Act, which preserves the traditional definition of marriage by limiting it to one man and one woman.

    "Anything that undermines marriage also undermines our freedom and economy," said Staver. "It is contrary to our fundamental values to have as a cosponsor an organization that promotes same-sex marriage."

    "GOProud doesn't fit in any of the areas of conservatism within CPAC," Staver continued. "We asked CPAC to disassociate themselves from GOProud, but they refused to.

    "The only way we would return to CPAC now is if CPAC openly disassociated itself from GOProud and carried on a pattern of activity that convinces us they are truly broad-based conservatives."

    Both FRC and Liberty Counsel said they would direct their efforts to rival conferences that respect moral conservatism.

    "This year we will not be cosponsors or exhibit at CPAC," said Staver. "We are focusing on other events that are more conservative, like the Awakening 2011 conference at Liberty University this spring. For the next two years we will be cosponsoring the FRC Values Voters Summit. We're going to refocus our resources on events that promote the three legs of Reagan conservatism, social, economic and national defense."

    "We will to work to ensure that the Values Voters Summit continues as the premier conservative gathering in Washington, D.C.," FRC's McClusky told WND.


    Different table, same bullies.
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    Dec 30, 2010 8:07 PM GMT
    Barry Goldwater

    “It’s time America realized that there is no gay exemption in the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in the Declaration of Independence.”

    "You don't need to be straight to fight and die for your country. You just need to shoot straight."

    He said these things when most here were in diapers and before I was born. Way before many Democrats even took up the issue.

    Every party has many different points of view. Barry Goldwater was the linchpin to republican movement in the 70's and 80's.

    I find it interesting that people talk about party back and forth backbitting. It exists in every party.

    in 2008, no on Prop 8 was deleted from the democratic advertising to ensure Obamas victory in California. Mysteriously absent from Obama California rallies was support for opposing 8.

    I guess if it makes people feel better you can blame all your problems on evil republicans.
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    Dec 30, 2010 8:24 PM GMT
    musclmed saidBarry Goldwater

    “It’s time America realized that there is no gay exemption in the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in the Declaration of Independence.”

    "You don't need to be straight to fight and die for your country. You just need to shoot straight."

    He said these things when most here were in diapers and before I was born. Way before many Democrats even took up the issue.

    Every party has many different points of view. Barry Goldwater was the linchpin to republican movement in the 70's and 80's.

    I find it interesting that people talk about party back and forth backbitting. It exists in every party.

    in 2008, no on Prop 8 was deleted from the democratic advertising to ensure Obamas victory in California. Mysteriously absent from Obama California rallies was support for opposing 8.

    I guess if it makes people feel better you can blame all your problems on evil republicans.


    Goldwater would be forcefully ejected from today's GOP. Teabaggers would burn him in effigy. Ann Coulter would call him a traitor. Karl Rove would destroy him.

    There are no more Goldwaters in the GOP. They, like me, have bailed out of the Christofascist movement the party has become.
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    Dec 30, 2010 8:27 PM GMT
    Do yourselves a favour and get rid of the duopoly of political parties. They both are failing you, just some fail certain interests less.
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    Dec 30, 2010 8:51 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidThere will always be minor groups protesting, but their days are numbered.

    As are yours, as an anti-gay Right-Wing extremist. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 30, 2010 10:03 PM GMT
    OtterJoq said
    musclmed saidBarry Goldwater

    “It’s time America realized that there is no gay exemption in the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in the Declaration of Independence.”

    "You don't need to be straight to fight and die for your country. You just need to shoot straight."

    He said these things when most here were in diapers and before I was born. Way before many Democrats even took up the issue.

    Every party has many different points of view. Barry Goldwater was the linchpin to republican movement in the 70's and 80's.

    I find it interesting that people talk about party back and forth backbitting. It exists in every party.

    in 2008, no on Prop 8 was deleted from the democratic advertising to ensure Obamas victory in California. Mysteriously absent from Obama California rallies was support for opposing 8.

    I guess if it makes people feel better you can blame all your problems on evil republicans.


    Goldwater would be forcefully ejected from today's GOP. Teabaggers would burn him in effigy. Ann Coulter would call him a traitor. Karl Rove would destroy him.

    There are no more Goldwaters in the GOP. They, like me, have bailed out of the Christofascist movement the party has become.


    Why would you revel in a parties destruction if it is having moves toward tolerance?

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    Dec 30, 2010 10:29 PM GMT
    OK, if by moving you mean like the kid who won't leave the candy store who's being towed by his mom with all her might, then yeah, we should all rejoice in GOProud's rejection. Slowly but surely the kid and the GOP are moving towards the right direction, despite themselves.icon_lol.gif
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    Dec 30, 2010 10:45 PM GMT
    It is time for a moderate and progressive takeover of the GOP. It is time to tell these right wing conservatives and religious lunatics to go back to the outermost fringes of society where they belong.
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    Dec 30, 2010 11:33 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidIt is time for a moderate and progressive takeover of the GOP. It is time to tell these right wing conservatives and religious lunatics to go back to the outermost fringes of society where they belong.


    EXACTLY!

    I'm not seeing much of an effort to make that happen, sadly.
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    Dec 31, 2010 12:37 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidI'm sure none of us can be surprised by your blatant misrepresentation of the facts. If anyone actually reads the article it's talking about the fact that 2 republican groups have opted out of CPAC because they embrace the gay conservative group goproud -- and they happen to be vocal about it (someone posted a link to the debate between the leaders of those two groups debating with barron a couple weeks ago). What this means is that the republican party as a whole is having less and less of an issue with gay people.

    There will always be minor groups protesting, but their days are numbered.





    It would be nice if that was true, but it's NOT.
    The vast majority of the Republican party is anti-gay.
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    Dec 31, 2010 12:44 AM GMT
    musclmed saidBarry Goldwater

    “It’s time America realized that there is no gay exemption in the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in the Declaration of Independence.”

    "You don't need to be straight to fight and die for your country. You just need to shoot straight."

    He said these things when most here were in diapers and before I was born. Way before many Democrats even took up the issue.

    Every party has many different points of view. Barry Goldwater was the linchpin to republican movement in the 70's and 80's.

    I find it interesting that people talk about party back and forth backbitting. It exists in every party.

    in 2008, no on Prop 8 was deleted from the democratic advertising to ensure Obamas victory in California. Mysteriously absent from Obama California rallies was support for opposing 8.

    I guess if it makes people feel better you can blame all your problems on evil republicans.



    NO.
    Goldwater didn't become a pro-gay advocate until the 1990's - NOT before you were born.
    And NOT before the Democrats "took up the issue".
    AND his views were strongly rejected by the Republican party.

    You can't rewrite history and try to spin away the anti-gay agenda of the Republican party.
    There are a few voices in the wilderness calling for a more pro-gay Republican party.
    But, they're vastly outnumbered - and powerless to control or impact the platform of the Republican party.
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    Dec 31, 2010 1:24 AM GMT
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    musclmed saidBarry Goldwater

    “It’s time America realized that there is no gay exemption in the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in the Declaration of Independence.”

    "You don't need to be straight to fight and die for your country. You just need to shoot straight."

    He said these things when most here were in diapers and before I was born. Way before many Democrats even took up the issue.

    Every party has many different points of view. Barry Goldwater was the linchpin to republican movement in the 70's and 80's.

    I find it interesting that people talk about party back and forth backbitting. It exists in every party.

    in 2008, no on Prop 8 was deleted from the democratic advertising to ensure Obamas victory in California. Mysteriously absent from Obama California rallies was support for opposing 8.

    I guess if it makes people feel better you can blame all your problems on evil republicans.



    NO.
    Goldwater didn't become a pro-gay advocate until the 1990's - NOT before you were born.
    And NOT before the Democrats "took up the issue".
    AND his views were strongly rejected by the Republican party.

    You can't rewrite history and try to spin away the anti-gay agenda of the Republican party.
    There are a few voices in the wilderness calling for a more pro-gay Republican party.
    But, they're vastly outnumbered - and powerless to control or impact the platform of the Republican party.


    Thanks, rick. You said it better than I ever could. I had forgotten the particulars of the timeline...Pathetic how the attempt to hide it failed here.