Flu myst

  • CarbGoggles

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    Dec 31, 2010 12:17 AM GMT
    I'm in the US military and service members receive mandatory annual flu shots. I got mine today and opted for the nasal myst. Turns out the nasal myst is a live but "weakened" strain of the flu virus. If you get the traditional flu shot (needle) you will receive a dead virus. Had I known the difference I would have gone for the needle. So now I have a mandatory flu virus spreading in my body. Luckily I did all my weight lifting and crossfit for the week so I won't be missing any workouts over NYE weekend. I'm still pissed though that I'm gonna be sick... Besides taking off from the gym for the next 4 days I'm gonna try to OD on vitamin C and pray this flu doesn't hit too hard. Ughhh it has only been 5 hours but I already feel achey and fatigued. Then again I did crossfit 3 hours ago lol. Happy New Year, RJ.
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    Dec 31, 2010 2:43 AM GMT
    It's sucks how they treat us as human guinea pigs, especially with the anthrax vaccine.

    I one year tried to refuse the mist, as it's mandatory to get the mist over the shot unless you have certain circumstances, and was given an ultimatum get the mist or get a Article 15/Courts Martial. My choice... I got the mist.

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    Dec 31, 2010 4:47 AM GMT
    It truly sucks that you are getting sick, but your posting may help other RJers avoid the nasal mist. I would have assumed the mist and needle were the same! Hope you feel well soon.
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    Dec 31, 2010 4:53 AM GMT
    From the well-respected Cleveland Clinic website:

    "LAIV (nasal mist) is a weakened or “attenuated” form of influenza. The influenza viruses used to make LAIV have been weakened so they cannot grow well in human tissues.  Six parts of the genetic material of the vaccine have been modified. In order for the virus to become as strong as circulating influenza, all six of these components would need to change. In clinical studies, the LAIV is stable and maintains the characteristics that prevent it from replicating in human tissues.  An important safety feature, is that the virus is “cold-adapted.” This means that the vaccine survives and replicates only at temperatures less than 25 degrees Celsius. This allows the virus to grow well in the nose and throat. Since the temperature of the lungs and lower respiratory tract is warmer than 25 degrees Celsius, the (nasal mist) vaccine, unlike influenza viruses, cannot replicate and cause disease."

    Nasal flu vaccine is safe and effective if your immune system is healthy. You are experiencing a typical 'antibody response', as you should. You'll get over it quickly.
  • CarbGoggles

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    Dec 31, 2010 5:43 AM GMT
    Eh... I'm not too worried about getting sick. It's just a major inconvenience for me to be sick. I'm single, work full time and go to school 2 night a week as well has lift weights (5x/wk) and attend crossfit(4x/ wk.) I can handle all that plus my domestic responsibilities like grocery shopping, cooking, cleaning, etc... However, if I get sick... Ughhhh I don't have time to be sickicon_evil.gif.
  • musclmed

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    Jan 02, 2011 9:16 AM GMT
    there is a difference from getting "sick" from actually contracting Influenza.

    If you have been exposed to any one of the different flu's in the flu vaccine your body will have a memory response. You get a mini version of the feeling of flu, slight fever, chills, and body aches, maybe even tummy trouble. But it runs out of gas quickly. Reason is that there is no replicating virus to fuel it. You sort of want it actually so you are sure your body made protecting antibodies. This is why people think the vaccine gives them the flu, it doesnt and cannot.

    Other reason why people get sick in an around a flu vaccine, is because sick people go to the doctor. And they touch surfaces that may have other viruses, and they associate that with the flu, in fact its not.