How to handle this guy in my Muay Thai class?

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    Jan 02, 2011 8:09 AM GMT
    I just started Muay Thai three weeks ago and am really enjoying it with one exception. Sparring is very challenging for me one because I have never been in a fight in my life EVER. Two, physical aggression towards a person is very difficult for me to process. I am not sure if I might hit too hard, but I dont want to look like a wuss by barely tapping the other guy.

    The first night they had us spar, i had been there a full week. The first guy was helpful, offered tips and assured me I won't hurt them. We practiced what we learned in class like we were told to and that was it. The second guy i was paired with asked me how long I had been training for, and I told him just a week. He nodded and when we started the round he was doing moves we hadnt gone over that class, was doing advanced moves including spinning back kicks, spinning forearms, superman punches and all I could do was continue moving back and side to side in an effort to avoid his rampage.

    This went on for two minutes and then class was done. One of my coaches pulled me aside after class and said he wanted to work with me at open mat one on one and assured me it would make a huge difference. He also said what just happened will not happen again. That same guy (who is really short BTW) continues to behave like a rabid Chihuahua and my friends, co workers and family members are telling me I just need to hit him really hard one time during sparring to send him a message that he needs to back off. Would that actually work? Has anyone had something like this happen to them when they were starting off? Any advice would be appreciated.
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    Jan 02, 2011 6:47 PM GMT


    My Advice to you... Take up your coach on going on this Open mat with him... The dude, was being a dick and showing off, because most likely he probably isn't a good fighter himself either and was taking it out on you because he's been doing it longer..

    Whatever the case is, your martial artists now and you will have to deal with people like this. The only way you can subjugate them is by training hard and learning what is beneficial to your sparring from your coach.

    After 3 to 6 months of training one on one with your coach and more sparring, you will improve and you will be able to take this guy.
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    Jan 02, 2011 6:55 PM GMT
    Dragondevil is right. I took Tae Kwon Do for 12 years and there will always be the guys who think they're the bad ass of the ring (when really they're usually the opposite). Don't be afraid to get aggressive in the ring because that will help you focus and improve. And the coach sounds like he is taking notice to the guy as well so he should be the one to give the dick a good ass whooping to take him down a peg or two.
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    Jan 02, 2011 7:23 PM GMT
    Kick him in the balls.
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    Jan 02, 2011 7:44 PM GMT
    JustinAndChris saidI just started Muay Thai three weeks ago and am really enjoying it with one exception. Sparring is very challenging for me one because I have never been in a fight in my life EVER. Two, physical aggression towards a person is very difficult for me to process. I am not sure if I might hit too hard, but I dont want to look like a wuss by barely tapping the other guy.

    The first night they had us spar, i had been there a full week. The first guy was helpful, offered tips and assured me I won't hurt them. We practiced what we learned in class like we were told to and that was it. The second guy i was paired with asked me how long I had been training for, and I told him just a week. He nodded and when we started the round he was doing moves we hadnt gone over that class, was doing advanced moves including spinning back kicks, spinning forearms, superman punches and all I could do was continue moving back and side to side in an effort to avoid his rampage.

    This went on for two minutes and then class was done. One of my coaches pulled me aside after class and said he wanted to work with me at open mat one on one and assured me it would make a huge difference. He also said what just happened will not happen again. That same guy (who is really short BTW) continues to behave like a rabid Chihuahua and my friends, co workers and family members are telling me I just need to hit him really hard one time during sparring to send him a message that he needs to back off. Would that actually work? Has anyone had something like this happen to them when they were starting off? Any advice would be appreciated.



    From experience in tae-kwon-do and the reason i stopped is because i had a similar experience. And i did just that. I hit him with a reverse side kick.. which was pretty floppy and sad looking but still hit him pretty hard.

    Well needless to say he came at me enough to want to never go back. heh icon_smile.gif

    But also, i never had a coach or anything say that they wanted to train or teach me 1 on 1 either. So i'd take that as he saw something in you that he wants to get out. I'd suggest taking him up on that.

    Personally, i think the guy that was doing all those advanced moves was being an ass and was wanting to show off. In a way he was showing you what you'd learn eventually so.. He was showing you everything that he's learned up to that point. You know you're going to get there eventually.. Try using him as a stepping stone or something or someone you want to surpass? would that help?
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    Jan 02, 2011 10:18 PM GMT



    Its just so sad to hear some of the experiences you guys have had at schools that do not exhibit good camaraderie. I couldn't do that to someone else... I mean if a student got me good with a kick, i would praise them and encourage them to try to do it again.... I would try to make it harder for them but not to the point where it becomes discouraging to the student...

    I'm a master at my school, it is my duty to train my students to the best of my ability to ensure their safety and to make sure they are enjoying it.
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    Jan 04, 2011 8:52 PM GMT
    I think it's well been said that your second sparring partner was a douche. As has also been said, unfortunately those kinds of people are in the martial arts. Definitely take up your coach on the open mat time. The more one-on-one experience you get, the better off you'll be when it comes to actual use.

    I consider myself a non-violent person and have been doing martial arts since I was 12, Hung Gar Kung Fu for 6 years now. It is a psychological jump to get over when you enter into a ring and are called upon to strike another person. Feeling out how much force to use is difficult at the beginning and you can only get that gauge by doing it more often.

    In short the best thing to do is log that bad experience down and train hard to improve yourself. There really is nothing you can do to get that guy to change (he has to want to do it himself) and the only thing you can control is you and what you do.

    Good luck!!
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    Feb 28, 2011 1:41 PM GMT
    DragonDevil said
    The dude, was being a dick and showing off, because most likely he probably isn't a good fighter himself either and was taking it out on you because he's been doing it longer..


    And..you are going to get hit. No way around that. Yes, mention this to your trainer. More importantly though I am able to learn from everyone, those there for years and those there for one week. So with this guy you now know how not to behave. I am new to this. About 950 hours into the 10,000 hours required to get good at it.
  • bad_wolf

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    Feb 28, 2011 1:43 PM GMT
    Punch him through his skull!
  • massbuildah

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    Feb 28, 2011 2:09 PM GMT
    The guy is clearly being a bully and the coach seems to see through him.
    Take him up on the mat work for sure, if you are going to learn your art, get all the extra time you can. And you have to learn to not be afraid of hitting and getting hit. That will come in time.
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    Feb 28, 2011 2:21 PM GMT
    Just tell your coach you don't want to spar with him. And don't take offense to it. Sometimes as fighters your told to train like you fight and he's there to learn ad train just like you. So maybe he feels like he's just doing his normal 110 percent and you feel like it's to much. It's really your coaches fault. He should know hi people better and pair accordingly. Conversely maybe he's trying to get you to learn. The best way to learn how to fight is to get your ass beat repeatedly. If you wanna get good, especially at muy Thai, you gotta put in the time and getthe bruises. Just say something though, most people understand and don't mind. A lit can be cleared up by just saying how you feel icon_smile.gif. Keep it up though muy Thai is a great base art.
  • needleninja

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    Feb 28, 2011 2:21 PM GMT
    AvadaKedavra saidKick him in the balls.


    roflmao yeah thats what you could do.

    i recommmend focusing on endurance in a match, as well as punches and kicks.
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    Feb 28, 2011 2:26 PM GMT
    Just tell your coach you don't want to spar with him. And don't take offense to it. Sometimes as fighters your told to train like you fight and he's there to learn ad train just like you. So maybe he feels like he's just doing his normal 110 percent and you feel like it's to much. It's really your coaches fault. He should know hi people better and pair accordingly. Conversely maybe he's trying to get you to learn. The best way to learn how to fight is to get your ass beat repeatedly. If you wanna get good, especially at muy Thai, you gotta put in the time and getthe bruises. Just say something though, most people understand and don't mind. A lit can be cleared up by just saying how you feel icon_smile.gif. Keep it up though muy Thai is a great base art.
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    Feb 28, 2011 2:29 PM GMT
    AvadaKedavra saidKick him in the balls.


    ^^^^^^ THIS
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    Mar 27, 2011 12:27 PM GMT
    I am learning that the best defense is to remain relaxed and calm. When you are you can better anticipate your opponents next move. Keep to you game plan and do not mirror the aggressor. You WILL prevail. And surprise the s#*t out of him in the process.