the double-standard of homosexuals

  • Arab_in_NL

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    Jan 02, 2011 5:11 PM GMT
    I am a Shiite Muslim, whilst he is a Suni Muslim.
    He had been living happily with me until he found out about my cult, which was a big turn off to him, and then a break up.

    How dare we homosexuals ask for acceptance, whilst we are not accepting each other?!

    I cannot help but to recite a verse from Quran which says (Verily! God changeth not the condition of a folk until they (first) change that which is in their hearts).

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    Jan 02, 2011 5:13 PM GMT
    Englishness saidI am a Shiite Muslim, whilst he is a Suni Muslim.
    He had been living happily with me until he found out about my cult, which was a big turn off to him, and then a break up.

    How dare we homosexuals ask for acceptance, whilst we are not accepting each other?!

    I cannot help but to recite a verse from Quran which says (Verily! God changeth not the condition of a folk until they (first) change that which is in their hearts).

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    This has nothing to do with being gay, but everything to do with compatibility.icon_wink.gif

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    Jan 02, 2011 5:15 PM GMT
    The OP said:
    "How dare we homosexuals ask for acceptance, whilst we are not accepting each other?!"

    Truer words could not be said...although I find YOUR circumstances VERY disturbing.....

    PLEASE DISREGARD MY POST HERE... THIS OBVIOUSLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING GAY OR ACCEPTING!!!
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    Jan 02, 2011 5:18 PM GMT
    Friendsrbetter said

    Truer words could not be said...although I find YOUR circumstances VERY disturbing..... icon_rolleyes.gif


    How so?

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    Jan 02, 2011 5:18 PM GMT
    Gotta agree with Doug.....without being irreverant or disrespectful to your faith Englishness, religion is the Great Divider in our lives....the Christian Bible states "Do not be unequally yoked to unbelievers" so division is everywhere.....and compatability with a partner includes EVERYTHING about that partner,,,,,,including in what he believes...........I just can't believe two men got together before covering a very important point in their lives..........Keithicon_cool.gif
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    Jan 02, 2011 5:53 PM GMT
    When I was in Roman Catholic US grammar (elementary) school in the 1950s, the Franciscan nuns who ran it told us kids we couldn't be friends with the Protestant students from the public schools. They were sinners, heretics, had a mistaken belief system, and they were all bound for Hell, where we would go, too, if we befriended them, or had anything to do with them.

    Nor could we enter one of their churches with them, which was a Mortal Sin. I can't remember Jews were ever even discussed during our instruction, and I didn't know Muslims still existed except in history books about the Crusades centuries earlier. Until I entered a public high school at 16 I never had any contact with non-Catholic kids.

    Meanwhile at home, my parents were friends with everyone, had everybody over, from every religion and ethnic group including Jewish (though I don't recall any Muslims back then). My parents were the least prejudiced & bigoted people in the world, more socially liberal than perhaps half the people in the US are even today, and absolutely exceptional in the McCarthy-Republican America of over 50 years ago. I wonder, though, if they understood the conflict I was experiencing, between the private schools they were sending me to, and what I was seeing in their own lives.

    In any case, on the question of religious intolerance versus sexual intolerance, can any intolerance be permitted to exist at all? And if the former BF of Englishness plays the Suni card with him, does not that same card say the BF can't be gay himself? That would indeed seem to be a hypocritical double-standard.

    "My theology doesn't agree exactly with yours, so that's a gay deal-breaker. But it's also OK that I'm gay myself, despite my Suni religion not allowing it, cause I want to be gay."

    This does not compute... icon_confused.gif
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    Jan 02, 2011 5:56 PM GMT
    meninlove saidFriendsrbetter said

    Truer words could not be said...although I find YOUR circumstances VERY disturbing..... icon_rolleyes.gif
    How so?
    -Doug


    I find it disturbing that two men could start a relationship and NOT have already discussed their religious differences. It would seem...or at least it sounds...that both of these guys have strong belief systems well in place...
    how could this NOT have been a topic long before it came to breaking up over it??? Unless, of course, the OP just jumps into a relationship willy-nilly without knowing much about his future partner....icon_rolleyes.gif
    Surely this was not the case with you two, was it???
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    Jan 02, 2011 5:59 PM GMT
    For some, religion is much more important than anything else either they are gay or straight. We ask for acceptance because not all gays would have left you for that reason.

    Every forest has its...bad trees?...Or how is this saying in English?
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    Jan 02, 2011 6:04 PM GMT

    Alhumdulilah
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    Jan 02, 2011 6:06 PM GMT

    ...answering friendsrbetter,

    Yes, it was.

    Bill's atheist and I'm christian. We never discussed this until well into our first year together. The only thing about this we did talk about when we met was this question:
    "How important are religion and politics to you?" We decided, holding up these little flashlights of religious/political opinion to the blast furnace of love, that they weren't that important at all. Putting a damper on religion and politics for the sake of true love means you're capable of accommodating another's perspective and respecting it. This MUST be reciprocal.

    However, in our cases our religious/non-religious perspectives don't define us, not do our different political perspectives. There are more important things in life, like each other. icon_wink.gif

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    Jan 02, 2011 6:30 PM GMT
    You two got all the way to living together and couldn't tell you were Sunni and Shiite?

    Also, you guys take that shit really seriously, don't you? Wait til you find out, there ain't no Allah.
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    Jan 03, 2011 1:44 AM GMT
    Englishness saidI am a Shiite Muslim, whilst he is a Suni Muslim.
    He had been living happily with me until he found out about my cult, which was a big turn off to him, and then a break up.



    Your cult?
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    Jan 03, 2011 1:52 AM GMT
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    Englishness saidI am a Shiite Muslim, whilst he is a Suni Muslim.
    He had been living happily with me until he found out about my cult, which was a big turn off to him, and then a break up.

    Your cult?

    I kinda wondered about that myself, thought maybe a misunderstanding of the word by a non-native English speaker.
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    Jan 03, 2011 3:15 AM GMT
    HeartRobb said
    Englishness saidI am a Shiite Muslim, whilst he is a Suni Muslim.
    He had been living happily with me until he found out about my cult, which was a big turn off to him, and then a break up.

    Your cult?

    Probably bad interpretation. His "cult" is Shiite and his mate's "cult" is Suni. To use a rough analogy for this scenario, it's like Catholics versus Protestants.
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    Jan 03, 2011 8:51 PM GMT
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    HeartRobb said
    Englishness saidI am a Shiite Muslim, whilst he is a Suni Muslim.
    He had been living happily with me until he found out about my cult, which was a big turn off to him, and then a break up.

    Your cult?

    Probably bad interpretation. His "cult" is Shiite and his mate's "cult" is Suni. To use a rough analogy for this scenario, it's like Catholics versus Protestants.


    Shiite, Sunni

    Catholic, Protestant

    Reform, Conservative, Orthodox



    To me, they're all cults.