Navy Probes Raunchy Videos Made and Shown Aboard USS Enterprise

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    Jan 02, 2011 10:52 PM GMT
    "The U.S. Navy is investigating a series of raunchy videos produced and shown via closed-circuit television to the crew of the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise while deployed in 2006 and 2007, apparently by current commander Capt. Owen Honors.

    Honors, who was then the carrier's executive officer, or second in command, starred in the short videos, shown with the logo XO Movie Night, The Virginian-Pilot in Norfolk, Va., reported today.

    A series of raunchy videos were shown to the crew of the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise in 2006 and 2007.The newspaper posted footage, with some faces blurred, on its website. The videos depict simulated masturbation, two female soldiers pretending to wash each other in a shower, anti-gay slurs and other sexual content."

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    And these are the people that O wants to consult and be sure implementation doesnt upset them! The whole implementation is to cater to the true trouble makers in the military, while gays have to wait and ask pretty please.
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    Jan 03, 2011 12:57 AM GMT
    UpperCanadian saidI don't think the consultation will be how not to upset them,...

    Yes, it will. That is exactly what they are going to be doing as they connive how to implement integrating gays as slowly as possible and into the worst service positions as possible.
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    Jan 03, 2011 1:31 AM GMT
    It blows me away how someone in such a high position in this day and age would be that foolish.
    This could actually be a blessing in disguise for those opting to come out in the forces.
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    Jan 03, 2011 2:43 AM GMT
    beneful1 saidIt blows me away how someone in such a high position in this day and age would be that foolish.
    This could actually be a blessing in disguise for those opting to come out in the forces.

    Oh, Foolish is our military's middle name. These are the folks who planned an invasion of another country with no contingency plan for resistence!!!!
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    Jan 03, 2011 3:16 AM GMT
    someone's career is in trouble...
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    Jan 03, 2011 3:34 AM GMT
    Olympian saidsomeone's career is in trouble...

    That remains to be seen. I'm currently posting on this topic to a non-gay news site, and the response is largely supportive of this guy.

    "Liberal PC wimps" they say. "Sailors will be sailors, what's the problem?" "Another attempt to force the gay agenda on the US military." And so forth.

    If he does get canned I've posted there that he'll likely become a paid speaker at Republican and Teabagger events, with some FOX News appearances, too. "You liberals politicize everything!" has been the response back to me. Of course their own political defense of this creep doesn't count.

    So I dunno, the jury is out. But apparently he'll be losing his command of the Enterprise, which can't be considered a good thing in the Navy.
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    Jan 03, 2011 3:40 AM GMT
    I swear I recognize the stars and kanji tattoo (on one of the two guys in the shower). It's been killing me all day as I try to put a face to it.



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    Jan 03, 2011 4:55 AM GMT
    I should make a counter video...something like, "Now that you can be gay in the military here's how"
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    Jan 03, 2011 5:01 AM GMT
    If he was going to risk his position over a video, he could have at least made a funny one. That was just painful to watch and about as funny as being given a short prognosis.
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    Jan 03, 2011 5:19 AM GMT
    He will be forced out of rank with this happening on the heels of the DADT repeal. It sets a bad example and it's very bad press for the Navy.

    Walk the plank buddy. Who's laughing now?
  • danielek

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    Jan 03, 2011 5:44 AM GMT
    Watching the video, I really don't see the big deal.
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    Jan 03, 2011 5:48 AM GMT
    Caslon17000 said
    And these are the people that O wants to consult and be sure implementation doesnt upset them! The whole implementation is to cater to the true trouble makers in the military, while gays have to wait and ask pretty please.


    No Caslon! These are not the people that "O" is consulting with. You're delusional on the subject of DADT.
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    Jan 03, 2011 5:49 AM GMT
    beneful1 saidIt blows me away how someone in such a high position in this day and age would be that foolish.
    This could actually be a blessing in disguise for those opting to come out in the forces.


    The Navy has a long, storied track record for high ranking bad behavior.
  • needleninja

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    Jan 03, 2011 5:50 AM GMT
    lol, the girls were showering with a cardboard person.
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    Jan 03, 2011 6:03 AM GMT
    It's moderately funny actually at best, but nothing outrageous.

    I don't see how this is substantially different from regular American TV programming. It's more or less the same kind of humor.

    What's the scandal again?
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    Jan 03, 2011 9:11 AM GMT
    Try as I might, I just can't feel the outrage. This guy apparently had his version of a somewhat raunchy comedy show running for a few years. No doubt that during that time he performed quite a few skits and uttered many "jokes" that were in poor taste. But feeling outrage because of a short clip taken from hundreds of hours of footage seems pointless.

    I don't know if he ought to be in command of an aircraft carrier or not- but the fact that he was promoted to that command during the time he ran his XO movie night tells me that the navy considered him capable and unless his actions show him to be incapable, I see no real reason to get upset or demand his resignation. Is there evidence (aside from videos with immature humour) that would point to his being incapable of commanding a ship? Is there evidence that he is not worthy of holding impartial command over individuals?
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    Jan 03, 2011 10:54 AM GMT
    west77 saidTry as I might, I just can't feel the outrage. This guy apparently had his version of a somewhat raunchy comedy show running for a few years. No doubt that during that time he performed quite a few skits and uttered many "jokes" that were in poor taste. But feeling outrage because of a short clip taken from hundreds of hours of footage seems pointless.

    I don't know if he ought to be in command of an aircraft carrier or not- but the fact that he was promoted to that command during the time he ran his XO movie night tells me that the navy considered him capable and unless his actions show him to be incapable, I see no real reason to get upset or demand his resignation. Is there evidence (aside from videos with immature humour) that would point to his being incapable of commanding a ship? Is there evidence that he is not worthy of holding impartial command over individuals?


    Honors wasn't promoted until last May, and these videos were from executive officer movie nights back in 2006 (so I wouldn't be so quick to say his superiors were aware of the clips).

    At any rate, the videos are just dumb. Only E2s find that kind of stuff funny.

    Interesting side note though, this is big news here (Norfolk/where Enterprise deploys from). It's all over the local news outlets (wavy.com), but the Navy news site makes no mention of it yet (http://www.navy.mil/swf/index.asp).
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    Jan 03, 2011 5:08 PM GMT
    But he produced these videos for a few years and broadcast them ship wide (as I understand it.) Surely with him putting the disclaimer at the beginnings about the captain and admiral not knowing the contents of the videos in advance of his broadcasting them, people knew. He would have needed permission to do this... I can actually see where his video night would have played a positive role in his promotion with him taking the initiative to put together a "show" each week for the crew, boosting morale ect... (I don't agree with it, but I could see it.)

    Anyhow, I will agree with your assessment of the humour- it is not funny. I also don't "get" South park or anything with Ben Stiller- but he has millions of fans.
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    Jan 03, 2011 5:09 PM GMT
    I agree. If the video in this post is the full video, I don't think it's any worse than some of the bad comics making money on Comedy Central.

    Not really funny to me.. but not really that offensive either.

    The only thing that I would have a problem with is how Honors seemed to be belittling his SWO persona by calling him gay. However, there are a lot of gay men who use the word gay in the same manner.

    If he broke military policy, that's an issue for them to deal with. It's no different than an office policy that prohibits certain language.

    danielek saidWatching the video, I really don't see the big deal.
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    Jan 03, 2011 11:57 PM GMT
    Honors has now been temporarily relieved of duty.

    Navy to relieve officer during inquiry over lewd videos
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    Jan 04, 2011 12:12 AM GMT
    All I can say is, if this is the best stab at comedy these guys could do, they definately need something better to do with their time. These vids are piss poor, not even comedic and if the guy were thinking clearly at all, he'd have thrown them away at first viewing and never even considered showing them.
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    Jan 04, 2011 12:18 AM GMT
    realifedad said All I can say is, if this is the best stab at comedy these guys could do, they definately need something better to do with their time. These vids are piss poor, not even comedic and if the guy were thinking clearly at all, he'd have thrown them away at first viewing and never even considered showing them.
    Lewd seems a strong word, mostly dumb and very boring.
    I was also thinking, "Is this how our tax dollars are spent?" Maybe he did them on his own time with his own money but it all seems a tempest in a teapot.
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    Jan 04, 2011 12:24 AM GMT
    So much for that whole "The Best And The Brightest" re: the US Military.
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    Jan 04, 2011 10:12 PM GMT
    I just read that the US Navy has PERMANENTLY relieved Capt. Honors of his command of Enterprise. It was being speculated that it would be temporary, pending further investigation. Not so.

    I'm sure southbeach and other Republicans here are stricken that a homophobe like Honors was treated so "poorly." But I couldn't be more pleased. I held the same equivalent level of rank as him, though in the Army, and such misconduct is revolting to me, in total opposition to our Officer ethics, not to mention our Oath of Office.

    Occasionally these guys get caught. Maybe not often enough, but it does happen. Sorry it took so long, but a good message for the rest of the US military, as we hopefully transition into a post-DADT environment.
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    Jan 04, 2011 10:27 PM GMT
    I don't see these videos as raunchy, or particularly offensive [tho I'm sure some find them so] but they were deeply unprofessional. He should not be in command of an aircraft carrier, and it's quite proper that he was relieved of command.