House to start health care law repeal NEXT WEEK

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    Jan 03, 2011 11:19 PM GMT
    [...ironically, on the same day when my medical insurance company sends me a letter (required by the law, no doubt) detailing the fact that starting 1/1/11,
    1. The life-time spending limit is gone, and
    2. If I had children under 26, they are allowed in a group plan under me.

    And I'm sure other insurance companies' clients and Medicare beneficiaries just got similar letters.]


    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/46985.html
    House Republicans will vote next week to repeal the new health care law, making good on a top-tier GOP campaign promise and setting up a showdown with President Barack Obama over his signature domestic policy achievement.

    Majority Leader-elect Eric Cantor announced the timeline for considering the repeal legislation Monday: the bill will post on the Rules Committee website Monday night, the Rules Committee will meet Thursday, and the rule for the debate will be considered on the House floor Friday. The repeal vote will follow on Wednesday, Jan 12.


    Good luck with that.icon_razz.gif
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    Jan 04, 2011 9:08 AM GMT
    either way I'm fucked cuz my insurance is high and most doctors I see aren't intelligent enough to SOLVE my physical problems.
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    Jan 04, 2011 9:16 AM GMT
    Hurray! I'm all for this. You can keep the change.
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    Jan 04, 2011 9:31 AM GMT
    I am waiting for those who vote for the repeal to give up their own government health insurance plan.

    Oh yes, and get rid of the deficit. Has anyone noticed that once the election was over the Republican members on this site have totally forgotten about it?
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    Jan 04, 2011 12:03 PM GMT
    And they're using taxpayer money and time to repeal it too...
    ...even if it adds to the deficit. But who's doing the accounting?GOP RULES EXEMPT COSTS OF REPEALING HEALTH CARE - House Republican rules for the 112th Congress exempt all sorts of tax cuts from any requirement that their deficit impact be offset -- including one they jarringly refer to as the "estate tax" (the wha??) -- but they specifically "exempt the budgetary effects of legislation repealing the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and the Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010."
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    Jan 04, 2011 12:06 PM GMT
    Exactly- it's not gonna happen and they're wasting their time, and our money, in some fucked up attempt to make a statement.
  • TrentGrad

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    Jan 04, 2011 1:04 PM GMT
    It always seemed a contradiction to me how many Republicans who hold "pro-life" views seems to adamantly opposed to providing a public system of care that can and often does help to sustain life.

    And when the "tea party" says they want their country back, doesn't that extend back further than just the time when Richard Nixon brought in the HMO concept of managed health care?

    For the life of me, I can't understand how it's legal for health care providers to deny life saving treatments because you lack health insurance...and how it's legal for health insurers to deny those suffering health issues the option to purchase the coverage they need to sustain or save their lives.
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    Jan 04, 2011 1:35 PM GMT
    The Republicans and Lieberman are going to run into the very wall they are working so hard to build.

    They seem to think the American people want a full repeal, which isn't true at all. What the majority want is universal health care with a public option.
    Once the American people (especially the 30 million uninsured) absorb what the Republicans are really doing, they're going to go ape shit crazy.
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    Jan 04, 2011 2:59 PM GMT
    RiverRising saidThe Republicans and Lieberman are going to run into the very wall they are working so hard to build.

    They seem to think the American people want a full repeal, which isn't true at all. What the majority want is universal health care with a public option.
    Once the American people (especially the 30 million uninsured) absorb what the Republicans are really doing, they're going to go ape shit crazy.




    Definately agree with you here !!! This bullshit Cantor and Boner are pulling is NOT backed by the majority, its their financial backers wishes not the publics. Everytime the truth is told about the health care the people polled don't want it repealed. There's a few loud mouths in the Tea Party that seem to get all the attention, that would vote republican against their own interests regardless of facts. Its comforting to know that the vast majority will listen to facts and put aside False News bullshit, as well as Paling, Beck, Limbaugh, Bachman and etc. Lies and exagerations.
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:03 PM GMT
    TigerTim saidI am waiting for those who vote for the repeal to give up their own government health insurance plan.

    Oh yes, and get rid of the deficit. Has anyone noticed that once the election was over the Republican members on this site have totally forgotten about it?


    Just because you don't bother to follow the news, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

    fyi -
    "Physician Hospitals of America says that construction had to stop at 45 hospitals nationwide or they would not be able to bill Medicare for treatments."
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-ends-construction-doctor-owned-hospitals_525950.html

    "Rep.-elect Joe Walsh to forgo government health care despite wife’s preexisting condition"
    [url]http://dailycaller.com/2011/01/04/rep-elect-joe-walsh-to-forgo-government-health-care-despite-wifes-preexisting-condition/
    [/url]

    "G.O.P. Sets Up Huge Target for Budget Ax"
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/04/us/politics/04fiscal.html
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:11 PM GMT
    This Obamacare crap is a burden on the tax payers. Stop the malpractice lawsuits and the illegals from using our hospitals and that would be enough to 'fix' our healthcare system. Healthcare is not a right. It is a privilege.
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:17 PM GMT
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    aggiedude saidThis Obamacare crap is a burden on the tax payers. Stop the malpractice lawsuits and the illegals from using our hospitals and that would be enough to 'fix' our healthcare system. Healthcare is not a right. It is a privilege.


    Uh oh.... You are about to be tarred and feathered by the liberal hens on here! icon_lol.gif


    Oh no...attacked by a bunch of people I'll never meet? Now I'm scared. What, so they may not like me. Big deal. I'll have to google a support group in my area, pick up the pieces and move on with my life. It'll be hard, but I think I can manage. LOL icon_lol.gif I am a member of the GOP. I don't agree with the left wingers and their leader Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi. With any luck, maybe she'll be hit by a fast moving bus on her way home.
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:18 PM GMT
    Bring it on, bitches.
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:21 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidABC News clearly shows once again that Americans overwhelmingly oppose the health care law (so I suppose that makes this an invalid poll also)...

    52% oppose the health care law. Of those, 59% want all or parts of it repealed:
    Repeal All Of It: 29%
    Repeal parts of it: 30%
    Wait and See: 38%
    No Opinion: 3%
    http://www.langerresearch.com/uploads/1119a2%20Health%20care%20blog%20item.pdf
    But if you liberals don't like that poll.... well, I guess you won't like any poll, as they all show that Americans clearly oppose the health care law:
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html


    Someone still has comprehension problems. Realifedad said, "Everytime the truth is told about the health care the people polled don't want it repealed." According to the poll you cite, which I don't doubt, that's only 29%!!! Get it???!!!! He's referring to the total repeal of the healthcare law. When you talk about 30% of those that want to repeal parts of it, that number also includes the liberal side who think the insurance companies still have too much say in the process. It also includes the number who want a public option!!!
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:22 PM GMT
    NNJfitandbi saidBring it on, bitches.


    Too funny.

    Also, note that language in the politico.com piece.... "President Barack Obama" not "President Obama"....I sense a little of the tea-party wacko birther "he's one of them" wink, wink in that.

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    Jan 04, 2011 6:26 PM GMT
    aggiedude said Healthcare is not a right. It is a privilege.


    So I guess you don't appreciate the veterans and active duty troops government paid healthcare? Your statement is callous and inept!

    When I work every day, defending RIGHTS, that includes the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Financial security and good health is part of that pursuit of happiness.

    Your comment really pisses me off. That's some pious bullshit in your politics!
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:26 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidABC News clearly shows once again that Americans overwhelmingly oppose the health care law (so I suppose that makes this an invalid poll also)...


    I read the PDF. If those are the questions, I'm not surprised at the polling response. But at the risk of sounding like I'm tarring and feathering you, I think the poll is bullshit.

    Polls that ask "do you like/dislike" something are meaningless. I can render a completely uninformed, unsubstantiated opinion on whether I like/dislike Snooki.

    But in a poll asking whether spending limits should be eliminated, whether college-age children can continue on their parents' insurance, whether prescription drugs prices should be negotiated for seniors, whether you can be dropped or denied for pre-existing conditions, whether...oh, well, you get the picture...the only unpopular part of the law is the "individual mandate", incidentally the only meaningful question cited in this paper.

    And again, ironically, this is a Republican health-care law. This is Mitt Romney's. I can't believe that always gets left out of the discussion.

    The liberal plan was for a public option, a plan that had wide support, got endorsement by the CBO, and was universally panned by Republicans. Obama and the Blue Dogs caved and essentially Republicans got the bill they asked for. The socialist plan has always been universal health care.
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:27 PM GMT
    fastprof said
    NNJfitandbi saidBring it on, bitches.


    Too funny.

    Also, note that language in the politico.com piece.... "President Barack Obama" not "President Obama"....I sense a little of the tea-party wacko birther "he's one of them" wink, wink in that.



    Wow, paranoid much? (Or are you too learned to be familiar with the term "ad hominem"?)
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:28 PM GMT
    aggiedude saidOh no...attacked by a bunch of people I'll never meet? Now I'm scared...With any luck, maybe she'll be hit by a fast moving bus on her way home.


    You won't be tarred and feathered here. We tend to engage forum members who have constructive things to add to the discussion. You'll more likely be ignored.
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:29 PM GMT
    aggiedude said
    southbeach1500 said
    aggiedude saidThis Obamacare crap is a burden on the tax payers. Stop the malpractice lawsuits and the illegals from using our hospitals and that would be enough to 'fix' our healthcare system. Healthcare is not a right. It is a privilege.


    Uh oh.... You are about to be tarred and feathered by the liberal hens on here! icon_lol.gif


    Oh no...attacked by a bunch of people I'll never meet? Now I'm scared. What, so they may not like me. Big deal. I'll have to google a support group in my area, pick up the pieces and move on with my life. It'll be hard, but I think I can manage. LOL icon_lol.gif I am a member of the GOP. I don't agree with the left wingers and their leader Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi. With any luck, maybe she'll be hit by a fast moving bus on her way home.


    Typical right-winger. Going after a the most effective Speaker (and first female Speaker) in a generation.

    And, ahem, Al Gore hasn't had a position of power in the government or Democratic Party since 2000.

    Please take a deep breath and practice acceptance the HCR is here to stay and if Republicans go after the parts that people like (end of pre-existing conditions, etc.) OR Social Security and Medicare, their defeat in 2012 will be SO historic that it will make 2006 look like a walk in the park.
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:30 PM GMT
    mickeytopogigio said
    And again, ironically, this is a Republican health-care law. This is Mitt Romney's. I can't believe that always gets left out of the discussion.

    The liberal plan was for a public option, a plan that had wide support, got endorsement by the CBO, and was universally panned by Republicans. Obama and the Blue Dogs caved and essentially Republicans got the bill they asked for. The socialist plan has always been universal health care.


    Thank you. That's an excellent summary.

    I note not one ad hominem attack in there.

    Now let's wait for them to go for your throat instead of the issues!
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:30 PM GMT
    mickeytopogigio said
    southbeach1500 saidABC News clearly shows once again that Americans overwhelmingly oppose the health care law (so I suppose that makes this an invalid poll also)...


    I read the PDF. If those are the questions, I'm not surprised at the polling response. But at the risk of sounding like I'm tarring and feathering you, I think the poll is bullshit.

    Polls that ask "do you like/dislike" something are meaningless. I can render a completely uninformed, unsubstantiated opinion on whether I like/dislike Snooki.

    But in a poll asking whether spending limits should be eliminated, whether college-age children can continue on their parents' insurance, whether prescription drugs prices should be negotiated for seniors, whether you can be dropped or denied for pre-existing conditions, whether...oh, well, you get the picture...the only unpopular part of the law is the "individual mandate", incidentally the only meaningful question cited in this paper.

    And again, ironically, this is a Republican health-care law. This is Mitt Romney's. I can't believe that always gets left out of the discussion.

    The liberal plan was for a public option, a plan that had wide support, got endorsement by the CBO, and was universally panned by Republicans. Obama and the Blue Dogs caved and essentially Republicans got the bill they asked for. The socialist plan has always been universal health care.


    QFT
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:31 PM GMT
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    fastprof said
    NNJfitandbi saidBring it on, bitches.


    Too funny.

    Also, note that language in the politico.com piece.... "President Barack Obama" not "President Obama"....I sense a little of the tea-party wacko birther "he's one of them" wink, wink in that.



    Wow, paranoid much? (Or are you too learned to be familiar with the term "ad hominem"?)


    It would help if you know what an "ad hominem" attack is. My comments were directed towards politico.com and the way they couched that article.

    An "ad homimem" attack would be if I called you a name instead of dealing with your opinion.
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:33 PM GMT
    coolarmydude said
    aggiedude said Healthcare is not a right. It is a privilege.


    So I guess you don't appreciate the veterans and active duty troops government paid healthcare? Your statement is callous and inept!

    When I work every day, defending RIGHTS, that includes the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Financial security and good health is part of that pursuit of happiness.

    Your comment really pisses me off. That's some pious bullshit in your politics!


    I don't give a shit if it pisses you off or not. I'm just as much American as you are. Further more, your service is commendable. It's not my fault that our Government begs for your service and then drops you like a hot potato after you get back home. Just ask our soldiers at Walter Reed in Bethesda, MD. Remember how dirty and inept it was there? Pshhhh
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:41 PM GMT
    aggiedude said
    I don't give a shit if it pisses you off or not. I'm just as much American as you are. Further more, your service is commendable. It's not my fault that our Government begs for your service and then drops you like a hot potato after you get back home. Just ask our soldiers at Walter Reed in Bethesda, MD. Remember how dirty and inept it was there? Pshhhh


    And how many private insurance companies dropped Americans like hot potatoes?

    All of them.


    So your point is rather moot.