ABC News: Sarah Palin Re-Tweets in Support of Gays

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    Jan 04, 2011 6:29 PM GMT
    It's a start.

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/01/sarah-palin-re-tweets-in-support-of-gays.html

    Sarah Palin Re-Tweets in Support of Gays

    ABC News’ Devin Dwyer reports: Sarah Palin has been conspicuously quiet in the debate over “don’t ask don’t tell” and on a repeal of the policy President Obama signed into law before the holidays. By most accounts, she has never actually weighed in at all.

    But Monday night the former Alaska governor re-tweeted a post from conservative talk show host and blogger Tammy Bruce, who is lesbian, appearing to indirectly cast support for gays and an end to the ban on openly gay members of the U.S. military.

    Bruce had been commenting on the controversy surrounding a U.S. Navy commander and a raunchy video when she turned to the issue of gays in the military.

    “But this hypocrisy is just truly too much. Enuf already--the more someone complains about the homos the more we should look under their bed,” Bruce tweeted, suggesting that virulent opposition to gays may reflect the individual has something to hide.

    Soon after, Palin re-tweeted the message to her following of more than 350,000 followers.

    “I think @SarahPalinUSA RT my tweet is her first comment on DADT, treatment of gays & attempts to marginalize us--thank you Governor,” Bruce responded on Twitter.

    “I know Gov Palin & this "anti-gay" meme has been a lie--plain & simple. She's a decent woman & friend to the community,” Bruce said later.

    A Palin spokesman has not yet responded to ABC News’ request for comment on the Twitter exchange.

    Palin's son, Track, is an active duty member of the U.S. Army. Her former presidential running mate, Sen. John McCain, led the opposition to legislative repeal of "don't ask, don't tell."
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:48 PM GMT
    She's a fraud. Don't believe a word out of her lying maw.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 04, 2011 6:48 PM GMT
    Holy shit, Sarah Palin is starting to support gays in the military? This is the same person who promoted all that "pray away the gay" bullshit propaganda. This could cause a massive shake up in the right wing, religious movement.
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:56 PM GMT
    Anybody remember this?:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FAga7b4YbM

    Even I'm skeptic on Palin's turnaround.
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    Jan 04, 2011 6:59 PM GMT
    OtterJoq saidShe's a fraud. Don't believe a word out of her lying maw.


    You'd think that as a liberal, you'd be at least pragmatic enough to recognize that change doesn't come from berating people into submission - or perhaps not.

    So she's lying now about retweeting support for DADT to her base? I'm curious what you see as her motivation here. Irrespective of whether or not you see her as just a charlatan populist or a political leader that represents the views of many Americans, how can this not be a good thing?
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    Jan 04, 2011 7:07 PM GMT
    Good!

    Change does not necessarily need to happen over night. I think there is room to hold out hope that people like Palin can change and have the right to change their viewpoints on any such issues.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 04, 2011 7:09 PM GMT
    If this is true about Sarah Palin, than it is a very good thing. I am willing to give this time because a person cannot just change everything overnight.
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    Jan 04, 2011 8:11 PM GMT
    UpperCanadian saidriddler if you took a second to look, you'd have seen a thread on this subject already exists.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1312489

    Hey did you hear Michael Jackson died?



    Sorry, I only skim the top headlines - I don't use RJ as a primary news source. Besides, the ABC News story has more detail than the HuffPost one.
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    Jan 04, 2011 8:28 PM GMT
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    OtterJoq saidShe's a fraud. Don't believe a word out of her lying maw.


    You'd think that as a liberal, you'd be at least pragmatic enough to recognize that change doesn't come from berating people into submission - or perhaps not.

    So she's lying now about retweeting support for DADT to her base? I'm curious what you see as her motivation here. Irrespective of whether or not you see her as just a charlatan populist or a political leader that represents the views of many Americans, how can this not be a good thing?




    Her "motivation" is the fact that a majority of Americans SUPPORT the repeal of DADT and are pleased that it's been signed into law - so she's jumping on the bandwagon BEACUSE SHE INTENDS TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT AND SHE THINKS THIS IS A SMART POLITICAL MOVE.

    She's suffers from McCainitis.
    Chronic flip-flopping for political purposes.
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    Jan 04, 2011 8:32 PM GMT
    She'll say whatever she thinks people want to hear if it'll get her what she wants.
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    Jan 04, 2011 8:33 PM GMT
    rickrick91 saidHer "motivation" is the fact that a majority of Americans SUPPORT the repeal of DADT and are pleased that it's been signed into law - so she's jumping on the bandwagon BEACUSE SHE INTENDS TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT AND SHE THINKS THIS IS A SMART POLITICAL MOVE.

    She's suffers from McCainitis.
    Chronic flip-flopping for political purposes.


    Precisely - then how can you not see this as a good thing? She sees the winds of change within her base.

    I've always thought that it's just a matter of time that views on issues like gay marriage/civil unions/etc. will change. It's a simple question of demographics - not party. The only people this threatens are those who are intolerant and partisans of a certain party who have claimed a strangle hold on this particular issue.
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    Jan 04, 2011 8:36 PM GMT
    Oh, hoooray! Finally, Sarah Palin supports gay rights! It's what we've ALL been waiting for. Oh, Sarah, thank you thank you thank you. We can't thank you enough. You were the last holdout standing between gay people and full equality. Oh, hoooooooooray!


    Pffft!
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    Jan 04, 2011 8:38 PM GMT
    Holy smokes, Batman!

    I won't jump to conclusions about whether this is the real deal or not. But if this is the real deal and she's not doing it just to 'do it,' then this is great news. I'll be interested to see how things pan out.
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    Jan 04, 2011 8:41 PM GMT
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    rickrick91 saidHer "motivation" is the fact that a majority of Americans SUPPORT the repeal of DADT and are pleased that it's been signed into law - so she's jumping on the bandwagon BEACUSE SHE INTENDS TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT AND SHE THINKS THIS IS A SMART POLITICAL MOVE.

    She's suffers from McCainitis.
    Chronic flip-flopping for political purposes.


    Precisely - then how can you not see this as a good thing? She sees the winds of change within her base.

    I've always thought that it's just a matter of time that views on issues like gay marriage/civil unions/etc. will change. It's a simple question of demographics - not party. The only people this threatens are those who are intolerant and partisans of a certain party who have claimed a strangle hold on this particular issue.



    HAHAHAHA!
    Nonsense.
    You forget or are clueless to the FACT that the base of the Republican party is strongly and INFLEXIBLY anti-gay.
    There are plenty of Repub voters who WILL NEVER vote for Palin now that they think Palin is too pro-gay.

    If the Repub party embraces a pro-gay agenda, it will rip the Republican party into shreds.
    I'm not threatened by that prospect.
    It would be fine by me.
    You Repubs are the ones who have to worry.
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    Jan 04, 2011 8:42 PM GMT
    OtterJoq saidShe's a fraud. Don't believe a word out of her lying maw.


    When she can refer to us without using the term "homos" then I might believe her, but until then, I agree with OtterJog. She's a wolf in sheep's clothing.
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    Jan 04, 2011 8:44 PM GMT
    UpperCanadian saidthe consensus in the first thread was this was just Palin trying to jump on the bandwagon of a fait accompli. I think she is trying to align herself gradually to a more centrist position so she can become electable. She is not likely to lose her fan(atic) base over this.



    This is part of her plan to run as a third party Teabagger candidate in 2012.
    Which will be fatal to the Repub party's already feeble chances in 2012.
    She'll split the right-winger vote.
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    Jan 04, 2011 8:46 PM GMT
    I hope Palin runs for President in 2012. She won't win, but she will give the comedians a vast amount of new material.
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    Jan 04, 2011 8:46 PM GMT
    fastprof said
    OtterJoq saidShe's a fraud. Don't believe a word out of her lying maw.


    When she can refer to us without using the term "homos" then I might believe her, but until then, I agree with OtterJog. She's a wolf in sheep's clothing.



    It was my understanding that the Lesbian talk show host Tammy Bruce used the word "homo", NOT Sarah Palin. Here is the quote:

    But this hypocrisy is just truly too much. Enuf already--the more someone complains about the homos the more we should look under their bed,” Bruce tweeted, suggesting that virulent opposition to gays may reflect the individual has something to hide".

    I'm not a supporter of Sarah Palin for President, but I do like her. I had the pleasure of meeting her the night of the McCain Concession speech at The Arizona Biltmore on Election Night 2008, and upon meeting her you cannot help but like her -- she's beautiful, charming, funny, and so down-to-earth. There was a gay couple in front of us in the concession line and she could not have been more gracious. I have no reason at all to not believe that she is, or certainly could be, a friend to the Gay community. Until she says something to make me think differently, I'm going to go with that.
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    Jan 04, 2011 8:50 PM GMT
    She is not a friend of the LGBT community. Yesterday marked the unofficial beginning of the 2012 presidential race, which means it's time for the right to lean to the left and the left to walk to the middle.

    Republicans and Tea Partiers need votes from the very groups they'd prefer to see lynched, including LGBT and Latinos. Say anything? You betcha!

    Tammy Bruce is a stupid cunt for falling for this. It's all bullshit, especially Tammy Bruce identifying Palin as Governor. Palin quit the position, so she doesn't deserve to carry the title.
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    Jan 04, 2011 8:53 PM GMT
    Um, no. That two-faced cunt bag is doing that to get votes.
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    Jan 04, 2011 8:56 PM GMT
    She's out of the closet with her support for us! "I'm speechless because I can't express just how "underwhelmed I am!

    "REALLY SARAH REALLY"!

    huh!
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    Jan 04, 2011 8:57 PM GMT
    rickrick91 said
    You forget or are clueless to the FACT that the base of the Republican party is strongly and INFLEXIBLY anti-gay



    The tide is changing within the party, albeit slowly but surely, and I think Sarah Palin possibly taking a pro-gay stance will reflect this. It will take leaders within the Republican party to weed out the "strongly and INFEXIBLY anti-gay" and to let other candidates see that a pro-Gay stance will NOT necessarily mean they can't win elections. This idea that all Republicans are "anti-gay" is just silly and false.
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    Jan 04, 2011 9:27 PM GMT
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    rickrick91 said
    You forget or are clueless to the FACT that the base of the Republican party is strongly and INFLEXIBLY anti-gay



    The tide is changing within the party, albeit slowly but surely, and I think Sarah Palin possibly taking a pro-gay stance will reflect this. It will take leaders within the Republican party to weed out the "strongly and INFEXIBLY anti-gay" and to let other candidates see that a pro-Gay stance will NOT necessarily mean they can't win elections. This idea that all Republicans are "anti-gay" is just silly and false.




    Ah, yes.
    You take my words and distort them to try to make them mean what you wish I'd said, so you can try to attack it.
    I said that the "base of the Republican party" is anti-gay.
    A blatantly obvious fact.
    I DID NOT say that "all Republicans" are anti-gay.
    DO NOT distort my words.

    And "leaders within the Republican party" have chosen to keep anti-gay language in their platform.
    The idea that the Repub leaders going to "weed out" the strongly and inflexibly anti-gay from the Repub party, is a ludicrous and laughable FANTASY.
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    Jan 04, 2011 10:41 PM GMT
    I think this is part of a growing trend that socially conservative Republicans are realizing that they will not win the gay rights issue, and are thus conceding it in favor of focusing on more important things, like our economy.
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    Jan 04, 2011 10:45 PM GMT
    What's your point? Cheney came out in support of gay marriage, but I still think he's a monster. Obama wanted DADT to be repealed, but I still think he's an asshole. All you're trying to do is point out one good thing she does in the name of republican synecdoche gesture. Guess what, politicians, regardless of their affiliations, still suck. And the more you try to prove otherwise the more you prove Hage's theory of an outcast minority performing the hegemonic's rule to no avail of social mobility, i.e., they're just laughing at you.