Florida Professor Arrested for Having a "Suspicious" Bagel on a Plane

  • metta

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    Jan 07, 2011 2:47 AM GMT
    Florida Professor Arrested for Having a "Suspicious" Bagel on a Plane

    http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Florida-Professor-Arrested-for-Having-aSuspicious-Bagel-on-a-Plane-112825029.html
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    Jan 07, 2011 2:52 AM GMT
    "When confronted by the US Airways crew about his "suspicious package," Milatovic got on his cell phone. The crew asked him to hang it up and sit down. When he refused, he was cuffed."

    That's why he was arrested. Otherwise he woulda been questioned and let go.
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    Jan 07, 2011 2:58 AM GMT
    He was calling his lawyer to see how much a suit against US Airways would cost and if he won, how much damages he could sue for. icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 07, 2011 3:15 AM GMT
    Just don't ever try to explain to a TSA officer the difference between hummus and HAMAS.
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    Jan 07, 2011 3:20 AM GMT
    Why didn't he just cooperate? Would it have been such an imposition to show the contents of the bag? Indeed, it would have made those other passengers look like fools. Then using a cell phone on a plane! Really, he deserves what he got.
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    Jan 07, 2011 4:34 AM GMT
    Now lets not over look, the fact after 9/11 Democratic Hollywood was demanding your president G W Bush did something to make them feel safe again, as they now felt afraid to fly. Something was done, and it's still being done.


    Albeit as an Aussie I hate flying to America because it has become so repressive, unlike flying home when you are back under Aussie law, it's way more relaxed and less paranoid.
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    Jan 07, 2011 4:37 AM GMT
    Caslon17000 saidWhy didn't he just cooperate? Would it have been such an imposition to show the contents of the bag? Indeed, it would have made those other passengers look like fools. Then using a cell phone on a plane! Really, he deserves what he got.


    Pretty much
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    Jan 07, 2011 4:39 AM GMT
    TigerTim saidJust don't ever try to explain to a TSA officer the difference between hummus and HAMAS.


    I don't care who you are, that's funny right there...icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 07, 2011 4:40 AM GMT
    Caslon17000 saidWhy didn't he just cooperate? Would it have been such an imposition to show the contents of the bag? Indeed, it would have made those other passengers look like fools. Then using a cell phone on a plane! Really, he deserves what he got.


    Absolutely. The story here is not that his rights were trampled, but that he was an idiot...and an idiot on an airplane doing something suspicious.

    He deserves what he got, and how.
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    Jan 07, 2011 4:44 AM GMT
    How typical of coach class passengers. Mathematicians love doughnuts, because they're homeomorphic to teacups. If passengers have a problem with this, they should buy a hang-glider and fly solo.
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    Jan 07, 2011 6:20 AM GMT
    This was a professor who teaches at my University. He's one of the nicest professors on campus. Shame on us-airways and to all of the "nosy" passengers giving Dr. Milatovic such a hard time.
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    Jan 07, 2011 6:29 AM GMT
    And one step closer to fascist police statehood *sigh*

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    Jan 07, 2011 6:40 AM GMT
    Another reason to avoid carbs.
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    Jan 07, 2011 6:53 AM GMT
    gjoseph saidThis was a professor who teaches at my University. He's one of the nicest professors on campus. Shame on us-airways and to all of the "nosy" passengers giving Dr. Milatovic such a hard time.
    Might be a nice guy but not very smart! I agree with Caslon, deserves what he got! Idiot.
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    Jan 07, 2011 6:55 AM GMT
    gjoseph saidThis was a professor who teaches at my University. He's one of the nicest professors on campus. Shame on us-airways and to all of the "nosy" passengers giving Dr. Milatovic such a hard time.


    Ditto
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    Jan 07, 2011 7:01 AM GMT
    paulflexes said"When confronted by the US Airways crew about his "suspicious package," Milatovic got on his cell phone. The crew asked him to hang it up and sit down. When he refused, he was cuffed."

    That's why he was arrested. Otherwise he woulda been questioned and let go.


    Exactly. The headline is sensationalist and misleading. The bagel wasn't suspicious, but the passenger's behaviour apparently was.

    If passengers and crew are being security vigilant, that can only be a good thing. I don't really give a shit if they turn out to be wrong 99.9% of the time.
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    Jan 07, 2011 7:03 AM GMT
    I say, awesome.
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    Jan 07, 2011 7:05 AM GMT
    Why did he deserve for being cuffed and taken off a flight because he was accused of having a suspicious package? Simply because he was on his phone and didn't sit down? I'm sorry but I think he should have been allowed to tell his side and while we don't have full details I don't think he was being a prick as it may be suggested in the article. In fact I'm willing to bet that the stewardess was more than happy to be make a name for her self with the west of the flight attendants because she helped to apprehend a "possible terrorist".

    This article doesn't say if this incident occurred during boarding, mid-flight, or taxi. That would have been a good tidbit of information to know as, during landing most passengers get on their phones.

    Not enough details in the article to make a fair assessment but I do think this crap with people being noisy in the name of security is getting a bit out of hand.
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    Jan 07, 2011 7:16 AM GMT
    Ricovelas saidI do think this crap with people being noisy in the name of security is getting a bit out of hand.


    Considering passenger airliners were recently used to perpetrate the biggest terrorist atrocity in history and AQ are still attempting to target commercial airliners, I am not sure how 'out of hand' security can get. If you find the security too onerous or you resent complying with crew instructions, don't fly.
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    Jan 07, 2011 7:22 AM GMT
    Hehe, suspicious bagel.
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    Jan 07, 2011 7:31 AM GMT
    Mil8 said
    Ricovelas saidI do think this crap with people being noisy in the name of security is getting a bit out of hand.


    Considering passenger airliners were recently used to perpetrate the biggest terrorist atrocity in history and AQ are still attempting to target commercial airliners, I am not sure how 'out of hand' security can get. If you find the security too onerous or you resent complying with crew instructions, don't fly.


    I disagree. I question why the gentleman whose package was "suspicious" indeed suspicious.

    Last time I checked news they were doing thorough checks of peoples goods and their goods to make sure nothing was going into the secured area if they didn't catch anything there at the checkpoint I would say it's pretty safe to assume nothing (9x out of 10) will get on board flight.

    Blaming a radical group for all the measures that were in place after 9/11 is one thing. However, when people are so effing paranoid that they want to call out everyone aboard flight for having suspicious items those people in turn shouldn't fly.

    As amar stated where practically baby steps away from a true police state.
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    Jan 07, 2011 7:33 AM GMT
    It's pretty sad that people are that paranoid. Flying anywhere involving the United States is a real pain in the ass because of the sheer paranoia of it all. People need to mind their own fucking business, and calm the fuck down, it's not a god damn witch hunt.

    I don't mind going through metal detectors, pat downs, machines that see through my clothes or sniff me for explosives. We have those so that some paranoid dumbass doesn't cause stupid shit like this.
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    Jan 07, 2011 7:38 AM GMT
    Ricovelas said
    Mil8 said
    Ricovelas saidI do think this crap with people being noisy in the name of security is getting a bit out of hand.


    Considering passenger airliners were recently used to perpetrate the biggest terrorist atrocity in history and AQ are still attempting to target commercial airliners, I am not sure how 'out of hand' security can get. If you find the security too onerous or you resent complying with crew instructions, don't fly.


    I disagree. I question why the gentleman whose package was "suspicious" indeed suspicious.

    Last time I checked news they were doing thorough checks of peoples goods and their goods to make sure nothing was going into the secured area if they didn't catch anything there at the checkpoint I would say it's pretty safe to assume nothing (9x out of 10) will get on board flight.

    Blaming a radical group for all the measures that were in place after 9/11 is one thing. However, when people are so paranoid that they want to call out everyone aboard flight for having suspicious items those people in turn shouldn't fly.

    As amar stated where practically baby steps away from a true police state.

    a 10% chance of being blown to smithereens is too large a chance for me. If your snack bag is that damn private, don't get on the plane. I want anything the teensy weensiest suspicious searched.
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    Jan 07, 2011 7:47 AM GMT
    Mil8 said
    Ricovelas saidI do think this crap with people being noisy in the name of security is getting a bit out of hand.


    Considering passenger airliners were recently used to perpetrate the biggest terrorist atrocity in history and AQ are still attempting to target commercial airliners, I am not sure how 'out of hand' security can get. If you find the security too onerous or you resent complying with crew instructions, don't fly.


    In other words, blissfully ignore all the hijackings in the seventies, fail to reinforce cabin doors when US Intelligence advises that an attack is imminent, but instead blame passengers for not being "smiley" enough to a cantankerous air hostess.

    It is a step closer to a police state and one in which everyone will have their phone tapped for no other reason than that they log on to say "It's our foreign policy, stupid, not fear that Hollywood and Wall Street are destroying their way of life".
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    Jan 07, 2011 7:56 AM GMT
    Caslon17000 said

    a 10% chance of being blown to smithereens is too large a chance for me. If your snack bag is that damn private, don't get on the plane. I want anything the teensy weensiest suspicious searched.


    Caslon while I respect your desire to remain safe while aboard flight fact is we take chances daily in plenty of things we do. While the probability of some daily activities are lower than others, point is we all take risk. A 10% chance is negligible IMO.

    All goods are to be searched prior to entering the secured area, no? If anything is suspicious it should have been detected at the TSA checkpoint. If the TSA isn't doing their job, then perhaps we need to look at the processes they are using to allow passengers bring items aboard aircraft or completely ban all carry on items altogether (as I believe will come sooner or later).

    I can't say I share your sentiments towards passenger security/suspicions, so perhaps I'll leave this at agree to disagree.