Still want that burger???

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    Jan 11, 2011 9:52 AM GMT
    Just thought that I might help a few people keep their new years resolutions and cut back on the fast food burgers... this is worth a listen if you lack the willpower to skip the drive through.
    http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/whats-a-hamburger
    The conclusion is that (at least in Ohio) only 2 - 15% of a burger is actual "meat." They conclude (only half jokingly) that the fast food burger might even be considered to be a "meat alternative."icon_cool.gif

    I was going to stop by a burger joint tonight until I remembered this program and lost my appetite for fast food... Leftover turkey instead.
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    Jan 11, 2011 9:55 AM GMT
    So what's the other 85-98%? Are vegetarians sabotaging carnivores?
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    Jan 11, 2011 11:06 AM GMT
    Thats sad i love burgers..

    From now on Im making my own exclusively icon_smile.gif They taste better anyways...
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    Jan 11, 2011 11:08 AM GMT
    yourname2000 said
    JAKEBENSON saidSo what's the other 85-98%? Are vegetarians sabotaging carnivores?

    2% - 15% is skeleton meat. The rest is "filler material": Plant matter, large amounts of fat material, and connective tissue.

    50% of the weight of the burger is "liquid" but not all of that is water and some of it is added. Then there's preservatives and flavourings. And parasites (sarcoystis).

    Hotdogs apparently had less meat, more bone & cartilege, but no parasites.


    Well i dont mind fat and connective tissue... especially connective tissue is fine, since its full of protein isnt it?
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    Jan 11, 2011 11:09 AM GMT
    JAKEBENSON saidSo what's the other 85-98%? Are vegetarians sabotaging carnivores?


    Its a conspiracy...
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    Jan 11, 2011 4:50 PM GMT
    Ohhh, another RNW/Earth Beat listener?? icon_biggrin.gif

    I listened to that program last week! Although the meat content is low, they reckon fast food burgers are not that harmful and constitute a good "meat substitute" lol. On the other hand, here in Sweden a McDonald's burger is labelled as 100% beef. I've heard that McDonald's now sources the meat of dairy cows, which is quite sustainable because otherwise they don't enter the food chain once they're of no use for producing milk.
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    Jan 11, 2011 4:53 PM GMT
    unless youre jewish, and you follow kosher laws, in which case its 99.9% meat (:
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    Jan 11, 2011 5:17 PM GMT
    jrunner25 saidunless youre jewish, and you follow kosher laws, in which case its 99.9% meat (:


    But are there any fast food restaurants that are kosher?
  • needleninja

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    Jan 11, 2011 5:19 PM GMT
    hmmm....well at least it changes my perspective a bit
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    Jan 11, 2011 5:28 PM GMT
    GigoloAssassin said
    But are there any fast food restaurants that are kosher?


    There are specific locations of McDonalds and KFC that serve kosher / hallal products in the US.
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    Jan 11, 2011 5:42 PM GMT
    GigoloAssassin said
    jrunner25 saidunless youre jewish, and you follow kosher laws, in which case its 99.9% meat (:


    But are there any fast food restaurants that are kosher?


    mcdonalds, called mcdavids in israel
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    Jan 11, 2011 5:59 PM GMT
    i'm not surprised, really... but there is lots of water in cells so i don't know what they count as "meat" and what they count as "50% water." when i make burgers i cut up veggies and mix them in, as well as a bread and boiled milk mixture to absorb moisture so they don't dry out while cooking. and parasites? thats why you cook meat, because there's bacteria and parasites in it, ESPECIALLY ground beef. cod and other types of fish have worms that are naturally occuring in them. if you eat cod, you have eaten cooked worms, they are bottom dwellers, this is just reality.

    if you buy ground beef in a grocery store, a large part of it is connective tissue as well. all muscles have silverskin and tendons that go right into the minces because it looks ugly on roasts and steaks. and that's if you happen to get a batch made out of in store trimmings. most of the ground beef gets shipped already ground up from factories. it's green but mixing it so that oxygen gets at the myoglobin in the meat turns it red again. i have no doubt there is ground up bone, eyeballs, god only knows what in there.

    the fact is, it's probably good for you to eat that stuff (not the fat and not fast food burgers, but the ground up bone and eyeballs and stuff) and if you didn't eat it there would be so much waste that red meat would become too expensive to eat. the price of steaks is offset by the fact that you can put (almost) anything in the minces. as well, in the days that pilgrims arrived here, they ate /everything/ on an animal, including the eyeballs and the brain, and i promise you that we still do today (especially in hot dogs). and the reason there's no parasites in hot dogs is they are already cooked. they are cured in salt and sodium nitrate which kills the bacteria the same way cooking does.

    aside from preservatives and lots of fat, the fast food burgers probably aren't that horrific. they're bad and i don't eat them, but the picture painted in that interview is grossly exaggerated.

    all the same, i grind up a nice shoulder when i want burgers, i make my own bacon, hot dogs, sausages and can tell you exactly what's in all of them. and i dont eat cod! icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 11, 2011 6:33 PM GMT
    I'm on my way to White Castle.
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    Jan 11, 2011 6:42 PM GMT
    I will not read this... I am, and will always be, one of Michigan's top consumer for McDonald's. This is why I will not watch Super Size Me.
  • JDean

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    Jan 11, 2011 6:53 PM GMT
    <---- VEGETARIAN holla not a worry for me :icon_smile.gif
  • calibro

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    Jan 11, 2011 7:11 PM GMT
    Jd22639 said<---- VEGETARIAN holla not a worry for me :icon_smile.gif


    you do know most of that carrot isn't vegetable? it's like 95 percent water. icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 11, 2011 7:13 PM GMT
    Just make your own burger.
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    Jan 11, 2011 7:18 PM GMT
    It could be made of orphans and kittens and I'd still eat them.
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    Jan 11, 2011 7:21 PM GMT
    DR2K saidIt could be made of orphans and kittens and I'd still eat them.


    what if they were orphaned kittens?

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    Jan 11, 2011 7:25 PM GMT
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    Jan 11, 2011 7:29 PM GMT
    west77 saidStill want that burger???
    Yes, with double-meat and double-cheese, plz.
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    Jan 11, 2011 7:42 PM GMT
    GBRelentless saidJust make your own burger.


    Exactly.
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    Jan 11, 2011 7:42 PM GMT
    mkubwa said..... i make my own bacon... icon_lol.gif


    Mmmmmmm.......icon_wink.gif
  • xKorix

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    Jan 11, 2011 7:54 PM GMT
    ...I still want that burger.
  • Sk8Tex

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    Jan 11, 2011 8:05 PM GMT
    Part of what makes In-N-Out so great here on the west coast is they grow their own beef and make everything fresh in store, so you know what your eating. Alot of the local restaraunts too will tell you where you burgers are coming from etc as they provide info on the farms they get their goods from.

    I could never give up my burgers lol..