Do we promote homophobia?

  • groundcombat

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    Mar 26, 2008 5:18 AM GMT
    I couldn't help but wonder when I stopped and read yet another blog about which celebrities are gay, if we create some of the homophobic stigma ourselves?

    Recently I came out to a friend who I knew would be cool because he had a gay roommate. When we were talking one time, he told me how it's frustrating for him because everyone always thinks he's gay because he doesn't mind having a gay roommate. I think he's pretty cool about always being mislabeled as gay but it got me to thinking if we help create or increase the gap?

    Think about it. Most athletes and celebrities who top our "Are they gay" lists are personalities who aren't necessarily homophobic or may even exhibit a fem trait or two that we're always screaming to not be characterized by. I'm just thinking out loud as to if we (as a community) may be bringing some of the homophobic kickback on ourselves?

    Thoughts?
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    Mar 26, 2008 6:29 AM GMT
    I get what you mean. We use the stereotypes to tell if someone in the public eye is gay. I think its more to do with pop culture. I mean you never see a real gay man( you just seen queens and boys) on tv. I mean I feel Koojo or whatever that raging queen on tv's name is does more harm than good. We want to not be stereotyped but why then do all you see on TV the rediculous ones. Yes I understand that there ones that make the most noise get the most attention. But I think we ( as in non queens) just get overlooked. Its a real complex issue and I might have just come off as an asshole right now. But i mean when ever I see a shame full queen on TV I think of those portrayals of black people in cartoons in the old days with big lips and eating water mellon and showing them just being stupid
  • Powertrip

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    Mar 26, 2008 3:04 PM GMT
    Do we promote homophobia?

    Ummm... of course we do... I mean, I love RJ and all but think about it. We even create segments inside the community, we reject fems or straight guys or muscle marys or short or bold guys or young people or whatever... It's alright to choose who we relate to and to join a group (like RJ) where we all have something in common (the freakin' sports) but why can't we join another network where straight and gay guys can talk fitness an bodybuilding and sports at the same time and place?

    Then there's this other point of view, we need to talk about all these things with other gay guys. Again, I love RJ, and quite frankly I'm here more for the forums on non-fitness topics now that I think about it and maybe that's happening to many people, maybe the workout thing could be an excuse for some of us... which means we have a homophobic trait if that is so, because why can't we just get together with other gay guys without the workout excuse?

    thoughts?
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    Mar 31, 2008 10:41 AM GMT
    I am not sure there is solution to this problem. We are a disliked minority so people will stereotype us including those in the gay community. Some gay people do fit the stereotype to a certain extent that is why stereotypes develop, they have a basis in reality. I personally do not think there is anything wrong with being effeminate in nature if that is who you are.

    As for speculating whether certain celebrities are gay or not because they have certain traits, that is just a waste of time to be honest. I don't understand why gay people are still looking for justification from the straight community based on famous people being on "our team."

    Homophobia (irrational fear of homosexuals) is wrong and should be combated whereever it appears whether we unintentionally are the cause of some of it or not.
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    Apr 01, 2008 4:34 AM GMT
    i don't understand what you mean... i thought everyone loved gays and that all gays accepted each other unconditionally? you mean i've missed something?
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    Apr 01, 2008 4:43 AM GMT
    Oh DJ. you are such the kidder these days.

    I think on some level we as gays do help promote homophobia within our own ranks. As humans, though, I think we all tend to have some form of phobia that we promote every day whether we are aware of it or not. It's one of those things that unfortunately can't be controlled.

    I want a campfire, some smores, and a big group sittng and singing songs to soothe the mood.
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    Apr 01, 2008 4:57 AM GMT
    dancerjack saidi don't understand what you mean... i thought everyone loved gays and that all gays accepted each other unconditionally? you mean i've missed something?

    Ducks. why in the fuck, do you think One calls Oneself a FAG! We are not one! We are not all the same. The American Actor Mel Gibson (sorry he was born in the USA, you guys own him). Made a movie some years ago, about someone in hiding. One of his portals was as a gay hairdresser. He minced when he walked, and squeaked when he talked. One did not find this amusing, nor entertaining. But yet this is the way many people see homosexuals, as they are the only ones people notice.

    So the ones most see, are the ones that stand out, and not us regular guys, doing regular things. In a lot of peoples eyes it is guilty by association. Shame it does not always work, when all your friends a str8.


    But in the same way, it is the same for the dyke's. The big aggressive ones stand out, and not the real feminine ones. And if anyone gets upset about this opinion. Pay my mortgage, and then live my life....... We are not one. But I am! lol