Walmart in Mexico-I wasn't aware of this

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    Jan 12, 2011 5:09 AM GMT
    Well just got back from a great vaction in Mexico-I am not a regular Wal Mart shopper but I needed to pick up a few things...
    I was shocked to learn that the people bagging the purchases in Mexico are not paid a wage-they exist only on tips given by tourists or locals..they have Wal Mart uniforms etc. but they are not paid .Most of them are young kids, but a few of them were seniors.
    I am disturbed by this immensely, so I am asking all of you to weigh in on this issue.
    For the record I am a die hard capitalist, I am anti union, and have no political affiliations[ I do vote but I tend to vote for individuals, not parties] I am not part of any 'anti Walmart' group or anything like that..but this really bothered me.
    So take it away guys, opinions and thoughts of all kinds are welcomed..
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    Jan 12, 2011 5:22 AM GMT
    Write to Wal-Mart and see if they reply.
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    Jan 12, 2011 5:26 AM GMT
    I have written to them..to the President of Wal Mart Mexico and Central America, and to one of the board of directors who is also president of 'Telemundo' the Spanish language TV network..
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    Jan 12, 2011 5:31 AM GMT
    vanfreak saidI have written to them..to the President of Wal Mart Mexico and Central America, and to one of the board of directors who is also president of 'Telemundo' the Spanish language TV network..


    I think it could be Mexico's labor laws that are to blame that would allow for such a situation to exist. Walmart is a very different entity up here in BC. They have no choice.

    -Doug
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    Jan 12, 2011 5:39 AM GMT
    vanfreak saidI have written to them..to the President of Wal Mart Mexico and Central America, and to one of the board of directors who is also president of 'Telemundo' the Spanish language TV network..


    well thats stinky. But possibly they are paid more through tips than Walmart. I think its an interesting concept, we never really tip them in the U.S. Maybe we should, to encourage better service.

    In the U.S. , especially in California, I see the trend to get away from using checkers. Which i despise.

    Unless someone corrects me, they can pay the guy to watch you bag and scan your own groceries alot less.

    In my neighborhood, the CVS has redesigned to have no checkout people, just self serve stations.

    Im pretty sure some would take there chance at a tip. If they were paid minimum wage, and all the tips went to the employee, i think its a good idea. A round up on a dollar could work. But i dont think the store should pay any less than minimum wage. It could add up to alot at a busy store.

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    Jan 12, 2011 5:46 AM GMT
    "In my neighborhood, the CVS has redesigned to have no checkout people, just self serve stations."

    Hmm...the store still charges you the same price or more than they did when they had live tax-paying employees (who make your tax burden less by virtue of their paying income taxes, which machines don't). Oh well, that's progress, though some of us will opt for the human experience when spending our hard earned cash.

    -Doug
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    Jan 12, 2011 5:55 AM GMT
    Uh, Wal-Mart and pretty much every other supermarket and store here in Mexico. We tip pretty much every single person you come in contact with here in Mexico, and that's pretty much how those people rendering you those services live (which entails you pretty much not lift a finger when you buy anything, anywhere, it's carried for you at every step of the way).
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    Jan 12, 2011 6:00 AM GMT
    meninlove said "In my neighborhood, the CVS has redesigned to have no checkout people, just self serve stations."

    Hmm...the store still charges you the same price or more than they did when they had live tax-paying employees (who make your tax burden less by virtue of their paying income taxes, which machines don't). Oh well, that's progress, though some of us will opt for the human experience when spending our hard earned cash.

    -Doug


    I didnt think about the tax burden or the price of things. But good point.

    It just seemed whoever thought it was a good idea doesnt actually shop for themselves, they have the "help" do it. Its hurting business im sure.

    One lane is ok for someone who wants to get in and out quick. Not the whole store.
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    Jan 12, 2011 6:01 AM GMT
    Who gives a shit, theyre just going to save those tips and try to sneak across the border someday.
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    Jan 12, 2011 6:06 AM GMT
    Wal-Mart has a long track record of paying the legal minimum wage.
    If there is no legal minimum wage, they will pay the lowest wage allowed by law.
    Which in some places, happens to be zilch.
    I have no respect for that company.
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    Jan 12, 2011 7:36 AM GMT
    TawlBlond saidWho gives a shit, theyre just going to save those tips and try to sneak across the border someday.


    Yea you go awesome cool american rich guy, you don't give a shit!

    They are not really people, they are just filthy Mexicans who arent entitled to all the stuff you were born into by the grace of your almighty god

    I wonder how well you'd do for yourself if you weren't born an overprivileged little brat in the US, but the son of a poor family in a 3rd world country.

    People like you are the reason for the bad name of the US across the world.
  • 10sboySF

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    Jan 12, 2011 7:58 AM GMT
    musclmed said
    vanfreak saidI have written to them..to the President of Wal Mart Mexico and Central America, and to one of the board of directors who is also president of 'Telemundo' the Spanish language TV network..


    well thats stinky. But possibly they are paid more through tips than Walmart. I think its an interesting concept, we never really tip them in the U.S. Maybe we should, to encourage better service.

    In the U.S. , especially in California, I see the trend to get away from using checkers. Which i despise.

    Unless someone corrects me, they can pay the guy to watch you bag and scan your own groceries alot less.

    In my neighborhood, the CVS has redesigned to have no checkout people, just self serve stations.

    Im pretty sure some would take there chance at a tip. If they were paid minimum wage, and all the tips went to the employee, i think its a good idea. A round up on a dollar could work. But i dont think the store should pay any less than minimum wage. It could add up to alot at a busy store.



    I try to avoid the self check out lines as much as I can. I figured that it's someone's job security in jeopardy when I use them.
  • activeboy90

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    Jan 12, 2011 8:54 AM GMT
    There is for walmarts within ten minutes if each other near one my grand mothers houses in mexico, I wasnt aware the baggers weren't paid but they might make more than most off tips, my uncle works at the factory for one of the most prestigious department stores in the country (e.g armani dior chanel) and he gets twelve dollars a day for like twelve hours of work, pretty ghetto especially since everything cost more over there
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    Jan 12, 2011 9:23 AM GMT
    Ariodante saidUh, Wal-Mart and pretty much every other supermarket and store here in Mexico. We tip pretty much every single person you come in contact with here in Mexico, and that's pretty much how those people rendering you those services live (which entails you pretty much not lift a finger when you buy anything, anywhere, it's carried for you at every step of the way).


    Gosh I recall going to a bathroom in a nice restaurant in Mexico to come out of the stall to wash my hands to find someone standing there just to hand me a towel to dry my hands, not sure if I have recovered from that, and yes I tipped $10:00 American dollars too.
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    Jan 12, 2011 9:37 AM GMT
    Tazo995 said
    TawlBlond saidWho gives a shit, theyre just going to save those tips and try to sneak across the border someday.


    Yea you go awesome cool american rich guy, you don't give a shit!

    They are not really people, they are just filthy Mexicans who arent entitled to all the stuff you were born into by the grace of your almighty god

    I wonder how well you'd do for yourself if you weren't born an overprivileged little brat in the US, but the son of a poor family in a 3rd world country.

    People like you are the reason for the bad name of the US across the world.

    I could not have said it better my self.. It is probably wrong the stores have this kids doing this work, but think about it.. at least they are not in the streets doing bad things like steeling or worst.. at the same time.. they are learning somethin very important.. work for a few pesos.. which is very little.. but I think they are learning something more important.. decent work is the way to go.. besides we are taking very poor countries.. at least this kids take a litlle money home.. and help their parents.. icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 12, 2011 11:10 AM GMT
    I think a few years back there was a strike in Utah on Walmart.
    Correct me if I am wrong.
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    Jan 12, 2011 11:20 AM GMT
    I avoid WalMart as much as humanly possible for exactly this type of reason. And a, oh yeah, lack of decent service.
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    Jan 12, 2011 11:29 AM GMT
    I avoid Wal-Mart only because I never drive outside an 8 mile radius from where I live and Wal-Mart is like 25 miles away.
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    Jan 12, 2011 2:43 PM GMT
    Is Mexico man what do you expect? Most families can't afford schooling for their children so they put them out to work...if anything this is light work compare to making bricks, picking out trash, etc....
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    Jan 12, 2011 2:53 PM GMT
    TawlBlond saidWho gives a shit, theyre just going to save those tips and try to sneak across the border someday.
    tall STUPID blonde..yup! what a moron.
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    Jan 12, 2011 6:45 PM GMT
    Walmart closed this store down in Quebec when it organized
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0210-13.htm
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    Jan 12, 2011 6:48 PM GMT
    I smell another boycott.

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    I'm not gonna have anywhere left to shop...
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    Jan 12, 2011 7:12 PM GMT
    Just one of the reasons why the Walmart family has about $85 Billion in assets.........icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 12, 2011 9:03 PM GMT
    Tazo995 said
    TawlBlond saidWho gives a shit, theyre just going to save those tips and try to sneak across the border someday.


    Yea you go awesome cool american rich guy, you don't give a shit!

    They are not really people, they are just filthy Mexicans who arent entitled to all the stuff you were born into by the grace of your almighty god

    I wonder how well you'd do for yourself if you weren't born an overprivileged little brat in the US, but the son of a poor family in a 3rd world country.

    People like you are the reason for the bad name of the US across the world.


    that's why i love ya Taz. go get him brother!.............................keithicon_wink.gif
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    Jan 12, 2011 9:38 PM GMT
    What follows is not an endorsement of this scenario, but an illustration of perspective:

    Mexico has filthy rich people with most of the wealth of the country, a tiny middle class, and a huge poor population. The government is numbingly corrupt.

    If Wal-Mart in Mexico were to pay a decent U.S. wage, the competition for those jobs, you can imagine, would rival the violence of a drug war. Wal-Mart sucks for its own reasons, but this is a part of the society it can do nothing about. The workers are getting paid--minuscule amounts by U.S. standards--but that desperate meager pay is all that the neighborhood could muster without it devolving into pandemonium.

    Oh, and TawlBlonde, what everyone else is saying: from the comfort of your completely fortuitous birth in a country you did nothing to build, judging people who never asked to be born in Mexico...gain a shred of perspective by traveling outside of your comfortable gated neighborhood or STFU.