After Giffords Shooting, Several AZ Republicans Resign Amid Fears of Tea Party Violence

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    Jan 12, 2011 8:04 PM GMT
    The line to apologize to those of us who have stated that the Tea Party is creating an atmosphere of violence and dehumanizing politicians starts on the left.

    From the Arizona Republic:

    Gabrielle Giffords' Arizona shooting prompts resignations

    A nasty battle between factions of Legislative District 20 Republicans and fears that it could turn violent in the wake of what happened in Tucson on Saturday prompted District Chairman Anthony Miller and several others to resign.

    Miller, a 43-year-old Ahwatukee Foothills resident and former campaign worker for U.S. Sen. John McCain, was re-elected to a second one-year term last month. He said constant verbal attacks after that election and Internet blog posts by some local members with Tea Party ties made him worry about his family's safety.

    In an e-mail sent a few hours after Saturday's massacre in Tucson that killed six and injured 13, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, Miller told state Republican Party Chairman Randy Pullen he was quitting: "Today my wife of 20 yrs ask (sic) me do I think that my PCs (Precinct Committee members) will shoot at our home? So with this being said I am stepping down from LD20GOP Chairman...I will make a full statement on Monday."

    Pullen was in Washington, D.C. and not available for comment, an employee in his office said. State party spokesman Matt Roberts said he could not discuss details of the district's disputes but, "Anthony has been a good Republican and was really involved in LD20."

    The newly-elected Dist. 20 Republican secretary, Sophia Johnson of Ahwatukee, first vice chairman Roger Dickinson of Tempe and Jeff Kolb, the former district spokesman from Ahwatukee, also quit. "This singular focus on 'getting' Anthony (Miller) was one of the main reasons I chose to resign," Kolb said in an e-mail to another party activist. Kolb confirmed the contents of the e-mail to the Republic.

    District 20 includes parts of Chandler, south Tempe and Ahwatukee Foothills. Republican state Rep. Bob Robson of Chandler and Sen. John McComish of Ahwatukee said they had supported Miller as chairman and were sorry to see him go. "It's too bad," McComish said. "He didn't deserve to be hounded out of office."

    A longtime Republican activist, McComish said contentious battles for local party leadership posts are nothing new, but this one appears to be more extreme, especially since there are no partisan elections in 2011 and by next year district boundaries will change.

    Kolb said the Tea Party and associated conservative groups ran their slate of candidates for seven Dist. 20 leadership positions, winning three -- the treasurer's post and two vice-chairmanships. However, Miller beat challenger Thomas Morrissey for the top post after Sheriff Joe Arpaio made a personal appearance for Morrissey. Phone messages left for Morrissey were not returned.

    After the election and around the December holiday season, some of Miller's detractors made an issue of the residency of Dickinson, the first vice-chairman. Dickinson, who did not return phone messages, was a supporter of Miller's and allegedly moved to a different precinct within Dist. 20 last year, making him ineligible for the leadership post. Miller said he told the critics he would handle the matter after the holidays. In the meantime, a series of accusatory e-mails was exchanged among party members. Some blasted Miller's support of McCain, called him a "McCainiac with a penchant for violating the rules" and a "McCain hack."

    Members of the Ahwatukee Tea Party group did not respond to e-mails seeking comment.

    Miller said when he was a member of McCain's campaign staff last year has been criticized by the more conservative party members who supported Republican opponent J.D. Hayworth. The first and only African-American to hold the party's precinct chairmanship, Miller said he has been called "McCain's boy," and during the campaign saw a critic form his hand in the shape of a gun and point it at him.

    "I wasn't going to resign but decided to quit after what happened Saturday," Miller said. "I love the Republican Party but I don't want to take a bullet for anyone."


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    Jan 12, 2011 8:16 PM GMT
    I would chalk this up as "If you can't take the heat, get out of politics". I'm not aware of any teabaggers shooting anyone over their politics. Comments like District Chairman Anthony Miller saying "I love the Republican Party but I don't want to take a bullet for anyone" makes for good drama and news copy for the left to jump on, but that's about it.
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    Jan 12, 2011 8:19 PM GMT
    "If You Can't Stand the Heat . . .Harry Truman would have had little patience for the notion that caustic political rhetoric causes murder"

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    Jan 12, 2011 8:27 PM GMT
    Well, I'm not sure how many Truman rallies had armed protesters milling about, or how many presidents were gunned down while he was receiving threats. And, of course, Truman had Secret Service protection, unlike a District Chairman who is probably on his own security-wise.

    I'm also assuming that if a gay guy was murdered in your neighborhood while you were receiving threats of violence, you'd find that just dandy.

    There's just no lengths you won't go to in your attempts to rationalize and absolve even the most violent and hate-filled rhetoric. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 12, 2011 8:32 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI would chalk this up as "If you can't take the heat, get out of politics". I'm not aware of any teabaggers shooting anyone over their politics. Comments like District Chairman Anthony Miller saying "I love the Republican Party but I don't want to take a bullet for anyone" makes for good drama and news copy for the left to jump on, but that's about it.


    You have more class that this. The incendiary rhetoric from the extreme right must be denounced by EVERYONE. It has got way out of control. You lot are always going on about personal responsibility. Well take some.
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    Jan 12, 2011 8:34 PM GMT
    Lostboy said
    CuriousJockAZ saidI would chalk this up as "If you can't take the heat, get out of politics". I'm not aware of any teabaggers shooting anyone over their politics. Comments like District Chairman Anthony Miller saying "I love the Republican Party but I don't want to take a bullet for anyone" makes for good drama and news copy for the left to jump on, but that's about it.


    You have more class that this. The incendiary rhetoric from the extreme right must be denounced by EVERYONE. It has got way out of control. You lot are always going on about personal responsibility. Well take some.


    Fine, let's denounce it - by everyone - including the hate laced rhetoric and the absurd blame thrust on pundits and politicians for this tragedy. To tie the two events is deeply irresponsible and by all accounts now, not true.
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    Jan 12, 2011 8:41 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidWell, I'm not sure how many Truman rallies had armed protesters milling about, or how many presidents were gunned down while he was receiving threats. And, of course, Truman had Secret Service protection, unlike a District Chairman who is probably on his own security-wise.

    I'm also assuming that if a gay guy was murdered in your neighborhood while you were receiving threats of violence, you'd find that just dandy.

    There's just no lengths you won't go to in your attempts to rationalize and absolve even the most violent and hate-filled rhetoric. icon_rolleyes.gif


    I'm not even sure "rationalize" is an appropriate word, since as we have previously observed logic and epistemology do not appear to have any significance for this individual.

    Frankly, I am very sorry to hear that Mr Miller has resigned because of fears for his family. Elected politicians deserve to face public scrutiny, even intense scrutiny or criticism, but they do not deserve for any reason to fear for their safety.

    I think that the fact Mr Miller is Republican is irrelevant. No politician of any sort deserves this.
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    Jan 12, 2011 8:47 PM GMT
    TigerTim saidI'm not even sure "rationalize" is an appropriate word, since as we have previously observed logic and epistemology do not appear to have any significance for this individual.


    Odd coming from you unless you're referring to the idiocy masquerading as "logic and epistemology" like the heaps of blame placed on Palin, Limbaugh and Beck in the face of no evidence whatsoever. Or perhaps it's the "wakeup call" to point attention to an issue that has nothing to do with this tragedy at all to which you refer? Keep being classy Tiger.
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    Jan 12, 2011 8:55 PM GMT
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    Lostboy said
    CuriousJockAZ saidI would chalk this up as "If you can't take the heat, get out of politics". I'm not aware of any teabaggers shooting anyone over their politics. Comments like District Chairman Anthony Miller saying "I love the Republican Party but I don't want to take a bullet for anyone" makes for good drama and news copy for the left to jump on, but that's about it.


    You have more class that this. The incendiary rhetoric from the extreme right must be denounced by EVERYONE. It has got way out of control. You lot are always going on about personal responsibility. Well take some.


    Fine, let's denounce it - by everyone - including the hate laced rhetoric and the absurd blame thrust on pundits and politicians for this tragedy. To tie the two events is deeply irresponsible and by all accounts now, not true.
    Take that up with CJA directly.. alot of us have tried that already.. doesnt seem to 'get thru'.
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    Jan 12, 2011 9:02 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidThe line to apologize to those of us who have stated that the Tea Party is creating an atmosphere of violence and dehumanizing politicians starts on the left.

    From the Arizona Republic:

    Gabrielle Giffords' Arizona shooting prompts resignations

    A nasty battle between factions of Legislative District 20 Republicans and fears that it could turn violent in the wake of what happened in Tucson on Saturday prompted District Chairman Anthony Miller and several others to resign.

    Miller, a 43-year-old Ahwatukee Foothills resident and former campaign worker for U.S. Sen. John McCain, was re-elected to a second one-year term last month. He said constant verbal attacks after that election and Internet blog posts by some local members with Tea Party ties made him worry about his family's safety.

    In an e-mail sent a few hours after Saturday's massacre in Tucson that killed six and injured 13, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, Miller told state Republican Party Chairman Randy Pullen he was quitting: "Today my wife of 20 yrs ask (sic) me do I think that my PCs (Precinct Committee members) will shoot at our home? So with this being said I am stepping down from LD20GOP Chairman...I will make a full statement on Monday."

    Pullen was in Washington, D.C. and not available for comment, an employee in his office said. State party spokesman Matt Roberts said he could not discuss details of the district's disputes but, "Anthony has been a good Republican and was really involved in LD20."

    The newly-elected Dist. 20 Republican secretary, Sophia Johnson of Ahwatukee, first vice chairman Roger Dickinson of Tempe and Jeff Kolb, the former district spokesman from Ahwatukee, also quit. "This singular focus on 'getting' Anthony (Miller) was one of the main reasons I chose to resign," Kolb said in an e-mail to another party activist. Kolb confirmed the contents of the e-mail to the Republic.

    District 20 includes parts of Chandler, south Tempe and Ahwatukee Foothills. Republican state Rep. Bob Robson of Chandler and Sen. John McComish of Ahwatukee said they had supported Miller as chairman and were sorry to see him go. "It's too bad," McComish said. "He didn't deserve to be hounded out of office."

    A longtime Republican activist, McComish said contentious battles for local party leadership posts are nothing new, but this one appears to be more extreme, especially since there are no partisan elections in 2011 and by next year district boundaries will change.

    Kolb said the Tea Party and associated conservative groups ran their slate of candidates for seven Dist. 20 leadership positions, winning three -- the treasurer's post and two vice-chairmanships. However, Miller beat challenger Thomas Morrissey for the top post after Sheriff Joe Arpaio made a personal appearance for Morrissey. Phone messages left for Morrissey were not returned.

    After the election and around the December holiday season, some of Miller's detractors made an issue of the residency of Dickinson, the first vice-chairman. Dickinson, who did not return phone messages, was a supporter of Miller's and allegedly moved to a different precinct within Dist. 20 last year, making him ineligible for the leadership post. Miller said he told the critics he would handle the matter after the holidays. In the meantime, a series of accusatory e-mails was exchanged among party members. Some blasted Miller's support of McCain, called him a "McCainiac with a penchant for violating the rules" and a "McCain hack."

    Members of the Ahwatukee Tea Party group did not respond to e-mails seeking comment.

    Miller said when he was a member of McCain's campaign staff last year has been criticized by the more conservative party members who supported Republican opponent J.D. Hayworth. The first and only African-American to hold the party's precinct chairmanship, Miller said he has been called "McCain's boy," and during the campaign saw a critic form his hand in the shape of a gun and point it at him.

    "I wasn't going to resign but decided to quit after what happened Saturday," Miller said. "I love the Republican Party but I don't want to take a bullet for anyone."


    http://www.azcentral.com/community/ahwatukee/articles/2011/01/11/20110111gabrielle-giffords-arizona-shooting-resignations.html#ixzz1Aqx1wbff


    LOL apologize to you for what?

    You have just ignored about every clear fact that has come out about Jared Loughner.

    There was more logic and facts within the psychic friends network.

    Frankly I dont blame the guy for resigning, a reprisal ( against republicans) is more likely now with all the press going on, intimating this was some sort of Republican led attack.

    Copycatting does exist , and especially with the chief of police editorialises on the subject.

    The Duke lacrosse team received death threats that were credible from all the inflammatory media coverage.

    So if he wants to get out, what does that prove at all? Except the fact you are waiting for some sort of fact thats going to save face and help give credence to the unsubstantiated story laid out on liberal blogs and at RJ.

    And I can say , this is NOT THAT FACT. Keep trying.
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    Jan 12, 2011 9:10 PM GMT
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    Copycatting does exist , and especially with the chief of police editorialises on the subject.

    What part of the above original post happened AFTER to then be considered a 'copycat'?

    he resigned because of the intimidation DURING the campaign and DURING the HOLIDAYS.. that was BEFORE this latest incident..

    get your time lines correct before you 'spout'.
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    Jan 12, 2011 9:37 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    riddler78 said
    Lostboy said
    CuriousJockAZ saidI would chalk this up as "If you can't take the heat, get out of politics". I'm not aware of any teabaggers shooting anyone over their politics. Comments like District Chairman Anthony Miller saying "I love the Republican Party but I don't want to take a bullet for anyone" makes for good drama and news copy for the left to jump on, but that's about it.


    You have more class that this. The incendiary rhetoric from the extreme right must be denounced by EVERYONE. It has got way out of control. You lot are always going on about personal responsibility. Well take some.


    Fine, let's denounce it - by everyone - including the hate laced rhetoric and the absurd blame thrust on pundits and politicians for this tragedy. To tie the two events is deeply irresponsible and by all accounts now, not true.
    Take that up with CJA directly.. alot of us have tried that already.. doesnt seem to 'get thru'.



    Huh? I've been saying from the get-go that the rhetoric needs to be toned down on both sides, and that no one was to blame for this tragedy but the shooter.
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    Jan 12, 2011 9:40 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidHuh? I've been saying from the get-go that the rhetoric needs to be toned down on both sides, and that no one was to blame for this tragedy but the shooter.


    Rhetoric needs to be seriously pulled back, agree.

    I´m not so sure I can fully absolve those who stoked the climate of paranoia and extremism, but I don´t think any one person is to blame.
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    Jan 12, 2011 10:04 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]Lostboy said

    You have more class that this. The incendiary rhetoric from the extreme right must be denounced by EVERYONE. It has got way out of control. You lot are always going on about personal responsibility. Well take some. [/quote]

    Did you mean this kind of incendiary rhetoric from the right?











    My bad, I thought you said incendiary rhetoric from the left. I'll try again.
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    Jan 12, 2011 10:29 PM GMT
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    You have more class that this. The incendiary rhetoric from the extreme right must be denounced by EVERYONE. It has got way out of control. You lot are always going on about personal responsibility. Well take some. [/quote]

    Maybe these examples of incendiary rhetoric from the right are better.











    I must have made a mistake again, I'm sure none of these examples are incendiary rhetoric.

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    Lostboy said
    CuriousJockAZ saidI would chalk this up as "If you can't take the heat, get out of politics". I'm not aware of any teabaggers shooting anyone over their politics. Comments like District Chairman Anthony Miller saying "I love the Republican Party but I don't want to take a bullet for anyone" makes for good drama and news copy for the left to jump on, but that's about it.


    You have more class that this. The incendiary rhetoric from the extreme right must be denounced by EVERYONE. It has got way out of control. You lot are always going on about personal responsibility. Well take some.

    The whole discussion about incendiary rhetoric from the right is nothing but BS, pure and simple. It is being put forth by the left for 2 reasons:

    1) The left tried to link the shooter with conservative people and organizations. After this shameless tactic backfired, the left needed cover by inventing another discussion or latching onto a topic started by that dumbass Democratic partisan sheriff.

    2) The left is trying to silence legitimate discussion and dissent, sometimes passionate, from moderates and conservatives. The phrase "incendiary rhetoric" is a code-phrase meaning criticism of the Administration and its supporters. The definition of "hate speech" usually means anything the left does not like.