Computer just crashed.

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    Jan 13, 2011 2:55 PM GMT
    I know, I know... another computer post. Bare with me.

    So, last night when I was working on excel for recruiting, my computer got the blue screen of death and crashed. I tried restarting it, same thing. Restarted it in safe mode, system restored, then restarted it again, and it seems that my whole computer has gone to the shitter. I still have my files and everything THANK GOD, but it's become a even a hassle to start my computer. Now... of course it's my fault that I bought an HP and it's my fault that I had them put vista on it. It's only a year and a half old and already I hate it and it's shitty.

    Now, I'm not that much of a tech guy when it comes to computers, I just know the basics, so before you go and jabber in java language, just know that you have to dumb it down for me a little. I want/need a new computer. The thing is, I literally have $.49 in my bank. I'm thinking I'm going to have to get a loan or something, or try to have my work pay for it because I can't live with out a computer at home, especially for work related business.

    I seriously want a Mac. I've been working on an iMac desktop at work and completely love it. I'm sure there are problems with Apple, but I am worry free at work from getting viruses and malware and all that stuff, and EVERYONE I've talked to has never had a problem with Macs. BUT I've heard that Windows 7 is pretty good, I just haven't ever used it. So, I pose a question to those who know their computers:

    I want a laptop with:
    -Long battery
    -Simple programs like excel, word, powerpoint (I know that is software and probably won't matter, but it's different on Macs and PCs)
    -Mostly will be used for networking, watching movies, and interneting, nothing hectic and complicated.
    -Simple to use. Easy navigation, and if I have to pull up or find a file, it doesn't take me 20 minutes to locate it.

    Any help would be amazing guys... I'm really in a bind.
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    Jan 13, 2011 7:04 PM GMT
    The cheapest Macbook will cost you $1050(you can get it a bit cheaper with a student discount).

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    2.4 Core 2 Duo
    2GB DDR3
    hard drive of 250 GB.

    However you can get an HP Compaq for $530

    2.2 AMD Athlon
    3GB DDR3
    350GB HD.

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    Or also an HP Pavilion for $860

    INTEL CORE I5 450M
    4GB DDR3
    500GB HARD DRIVE

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    If you are worried about money I think Macs should be the last option on your list. The HP Pavilion for $860 offers way better specs than your "cheapest"($1050) Mac and it comes with Windows 7 64 bit. Please also take into consideration that it is way easier to find free software(cracks) for Windows than Mac OS.
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    Jan 13, 2011 7:44 PM GMT
    Start your computer .When you see the black screen hold down on F8
    try #3 last good configuration.If not let me know and I will post a code
    to enter in command prompt sector.

    Try here also
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    Jan 14, 2011 4:25 AM GMT
    Allathlete saidI know, I know... another computer post. Bare with me.

    So, last night when I was working on excel for recruiting, my computer got the blue screen of death and crashed. I tried restarting it, same thing. Restarted it in safe mode, system restored, then restarted it again, and it seems that my whole computer has gone to the shitter. I still have my files and everything THANK GOD, but it's become a even a hassle to start my computer. Now... of course it's my fault that I bought an HP and it's my fault that I had them put vista on it. It's only a year and a half old and already I hate it and it's shitty.

    Now, I'm not that much of a tech guy when it comes to computers, I just know the basics, so before you go and jabber in java language, just know that you have to dumb it down for me a little. I want/need a new computer. The thing is, I literally have $.49 in my bank. I'm thinking I'm going to have to get a loan or something, or try to have my work pay for it because I can't live with out a computer at home, especially for work related business.

    I seriously want a Mac. I've been working on an iMac desktop at work and completely love it. I'm sure there are problems with Apple, but I am worry free at work from getting viruses and malware and all that stuff, and EVERYONE I've talked to has never had a problem with Macs. BUT I've heard that Windows 7 is pretty good, I just haven't ever used it. So, I pose a question to those who know their computers:

    I want a laptop with:
    -Long battery
    -Simple programs like excel, word, powerpoint (I know that is software and probably won't matter, but it's different on Macs and PCs)
    -Mostly will be used for networking, watching movies, and interneting, nothing hectic and complicated.
    -Simple to use. Easy navigation, and if I have to pull up or find a file, it doesn't take me 20 minutes to locate it.

    Any help would be amazing guys... I'm really in a bind.

    So, how much can you really spend? Because if you want to go low end, it's gonna be in the $500 range. And this is the "you get what you pay for" territory. If you can spend $800, that will put you in the "worth every dollar spent, why the heck would i want Mac" territory.

    And yes Windows 7 is pretty awesome. MS ripped a few things from OSX, so you should be able to figure it out pretty easy.
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    Jan 14, 2011 4:29 AM GMT
    Macbook Pro, have it for 2.5 years and as good as the day I bought it (actually better) icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 14, 2011 4:35 AM GMT
    I have a Sony Vaio that's 7 years old and still runs like new... but they can get expensive as well, so depending on exactly what you want out of the computer, it may not be the best option. But definitely a great brand if you decide not to go Mac.
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    Jan 14, 2011 4:44 AM GMT
    Ah don't scare me about my HP! icon_eek.gif

    Maybe don't look at so much porn next time! icon_wink.gif
    I had a VAIO that I got in 2006 for college and when I got my HP over a year ago, I pretty much exclusively used the VAIO for porn (other than illegally downloading crap sometimes) so that I didn't crap out my HP. Thing went to the shitter so fast and just recently finally died for good. Porn is the devil icon_twisted.gif

    ANYWAYS I like Macs but I am just so used to Windows and it is what is widely used in the business world, so I stayed with that. But I know a friend whose Mac has been alive for 4 years now, although it is starting to crap out. Just depends what you want!
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    Jan 14, 2011 5:06 AM GMT
    Most of your concerns/complaints are pretty heavy on the user side of things, and really have little to do with the hardware/software.

    As nice as Apple computers are, you're going to spend a lot of money getting one that's even decent. OSX is a pretty heavy memory hog. I wouldn't run it with less than 4GB.

    I build custom laptops for a living... feel free to send me a message for some recommendations icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 14, 2011 5:42 AM GMT
    Published September 2010 (http://www.theacsi.org/images/stories/images/news/sept2010_pressRelease.pdf)

    "The latest American Customer Satisfaction Index (ACSI) this week gave Apple its highest-ever score, awarding the company 86 points out of 100 in its 2010 survey of consumer sentiment. Apple’s score is a new record in the personal-computer category, one that’s nine points higher than the company’s closest competitors–Hewlett-Packard (HPQ), Dell (DELL) and Acer, which all tied with a satisfaction rating of 77. Apple has claimed the top spot in the ACSI’s personal-computer rankings for seven straight years..." Truth is... in life, you get what you pay for.

    You can get a refurb MacBook for $849 on apple's website... Refurbs at apple are great machines... Indistinguishable from brand new (cause they are) and any assembly issues have been repaired. You get a full warranty. You can also ask about open-box returns at apple retail stores, buy through the education store on apple's website or buy a gently used MacBook or MacBook pro. Mailorder companies have great 'bundles'. Macs hold their value much better than windows machines, and they are more reliable... Just google computer reliability ratings... Consumer Reports concurs.

    With Fusion or Parallels, you can load Windows and Linux on your mac if you want. And contrary to above statements, unix (the basis for OS X) is one of the most efficient memory management OS'es in existence.

    Get yourself a mac.. You deserve it.
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    Jan 14, 2011 7:08 AM GMT
    Ok... so it took me the whole day to actually get on this computer... and now I can't run it unless I'm in safe mode. If I try to start it regularly, it'll load... hum for a second, then Blue Screen of Death. I'm just so fed up.

    Basically... if I can swing a low monthly payment for a loan or something, I don't think the cost would be an option. I just want a computer I don't have to worry about taking to an IT expert every month to get fixed... I'm so fed up with viruses and stuff and never knowing what spyware/malware or any other shit you have to load on a PC to protect it, not to mention you have to monitor it yourself in order to make it run right.

    I'm just frustrated...

    Mostly what I find enticing about Macs are their navigation system. I find it SO easy to locate files and things on their operating system where as you have to go through 50,000 prompts and windows to get where you want to with a PC. I like working fast, and efficiently. Now, I've never used Windows 7 so I don't know what it is like... I just wish you could test drive a computer. Wait, can you?

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    Jan 14, 2011 7:24 AM GMT
    Dude don't get a new computer, get a copy of windows 7 and put it on it after backing your stuff up, it is super easy and it took care of my computer runs like new now and it is like 5 years old. And microsoft gives away microsoft security essentials which took care of everything for me, no worries now.

    If your pc is that new you really don't need a new one.
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    Jan 14, 2011 8:56 AM GMT
    Allathlete saidOk... so it took me the whole day to actually get on this computer... and now I can't run it unless I'm in safe mode. If I try to start it regularly, it'll load... hum for a second, then Blue Screen of Death. I'm just so fed up.

    Basically... if I can swing a low monthly payment for a loan or something, I don't think the cost would be an option. I just want a computer I don't have to worry about taking to an IT expert every month to get fixed... I'm so fed up with viruses and stuff and never knowing what spyware/malware or any other shit you have to load on a PC to protect it, not to mention you have to monitor it yourself in order to make it run right.

    I'm just frustrated...

    Mostly what I find enticing about Macs are their navigation system. I find it SO easy to locate files and things on their operating system where as you have to go through 50,000 prompts and windows to get where you want to with a PC. I like working fast, and efficiently. Now, I've never used Windows 7 so I don't know what it is like... I just wish you could test drive a computer. Wait, can you?


    Just get a Mac. Beg, borrow, steal, whatever.. get the money to buy one. From your response above, it's pretty obvious you want a Mac but you're trying to rationalize the purchase. You're not going to be happy with anything else. If you end up getting a Windows computer, you're just going to sabotage yourself and complain everyday.

    Or maybe get an ipad? It fits your criteria. It's got long battery life. You can watch videos on it. You can do your social networking. Surf the web. Check your email. It's easy to navigate. It can't run Word, Excel, or Powerpoint but there's probably an app for that. Plus, the ipad is magical! icon_lol.gif

    But if you can't scrape up the cash for an ipad or a Mac, I think viamanmax has a good suggestion. A copy of Windows 7 upgrade is around $120 on Amazon. Just backup your important files. Perform a clean upgrade. Windows 7 is awesome. Like I said before, MS ripped a few things from OSX. There's a Spotlight type feature. Just start typing for what you're looking for and Windows will find it as you type. No need for 50,000 prompts or whatever.
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    Jan 14, 2011 11:49 AM GMT
    Almost all blue screens are caused by a misbehaving video driver, a misbehaving sound driver, a program that's poorly written (leaking memory or bad garbage collection), or a thermal problem.

    Since you have .49 for money, you need to get this computer running. Uninstall any extra crap, and anything you just recently installed. Try Last Known Good (press F8 at startup). Unplug any usb devices other than your mouse and keyboard. Some USB drivers will misbehave and dump you, too. Almost always, with some patience, you can find the offending driver or app by rolling back whatever you've done recently. There's no need for a new computer. In fact, that's just stupid, unless the computer is really old, or you're paying someone a lot of money to fix it. If it worked before, it'll work again. Rarely does someone who knows what they're doing need to reload Windows. You just need to fix whatever is misbehaving and it'll be happy like before.

    Find someone that's good with PCs. Avoid places like Best Buy. They'll charge you an arm and a leg and you'll end up with nothing but an empty piggy bank.

    Blue screens happen when Windows can't insure the integrity of the data in memory. A blue screen is a dead stop because it's a problem that can't be fixed without some kind of intervention.

    Since your computer runs in safe mode, you know it's something in your startup, or with your network. Try safe mode with network. If that works, you know whatever is bad is probably in startup.

    If you can get to safe mode with network, look at the event viewer. It may very well have an entry for the offending program.

    Use msconfig to turn off unneeded garbage. Take crap out of your startup folder. Almost certainly this machine isn't a lost cause...
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    Jan 14, 2011 2:19 PM GMT
    viamanmax saidDude don't get a new computer, get a copy of windows 7 and put it on it after backing your stuff up, it is super easy and it took care of my computer runs like new now and it is like 5 years old. And microsoft gives away microsoft security essentials which took care of everything for me, no worries now.

    If your pc is that new you really don't need a new one.

    This, and you said you already have your files so its sounds like you're backed up.

    Not sure if you're still at MSU, but at UM you can get a Win7 Ultimate upgrade with a student discount for under $20.

    Alternatively, if you come out this way, I'd be happy to take a look at your computer and see if we can restore it.

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    Jan 14, 2011 3:28 PM GMT
    Do yourself a favor and buy Mac... My MacBook pro is now 4.5 years old, still fast... Inputting I had to replace was the keyboard because I spilled water on it, the DVD-r because it stopped working probably because of the water spillage... And the hard drive Stopped working but the cute guys at the Mac store replaced that for me for free... As far performance it still exceeds all my expectations.
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    Jan 14, 2011 3:52 PM GMT
    when it gives you a BSoD, what stop code is it giving you? should say something like 0X00000(and then a two letters/numbers)

    If you can pull it up, it'll help you figure out what's going on with your computer, whether it's a driver issue, power issue, etc..
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    Jan 14, 2011 5:28 PM GMT
    FlippSide saidwhen it gives you a BSoD, what stop code is it giving you? should say something like 0X00000(and then a two letters/numbers)

    If you can pull it up, it'll help you figure out what's going on with your computer, whether it's a driver issue, power issue, etc..


    I pushed F8 and went to the last known good configuration. When it started, a bunch of error messages popped up by the battery icon "Microsoft ______ has stopped working" x 5. Then "Your computer is infected..." Then BSoD with the 0X00000A, 0X00000AB, 0X00000c and a couple others showed up. I don't know what that means though...

    I'm taking it into my school IT center to see if they can't toy with it. The guy at the front desk suggested I look up my warranty because I might be able to swing a new computer for free... but I doubt it.

    I was just really looking forward to a new computer, but I can deal with wiping my computer and loading Windows 7 if it doesn't cost that much.

    Only question is... if I get it wiped and get it restored with Windows 7, what ALL do I need to completely protect my computer as far as spyware/malware/anti virus?
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    Jan 14, 2011 5:35 PM GMT
    No more porn sites for you.
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    Jan 14, 2011 6:09 PM GMT
    My experience is that PCs running Windows, regardless of how great the hardware is, need to be wiped and reloaded periodically. With Windows 9x, that was once a year. With Win2000 and XP it's every year and a half to two years. If you can't afford to buy the recommended Win 7 (a recommendation I heartily agree with, as Vista is a nightmare), at the very least, wipe your system and reload with the OS disk your system came with.
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    Jan 14, 2011 9:40 PM GMT
    When your computer is installed
    with windows 7 download Malwarebytes


    Malwarebytes-Anti-Malware-v1.50-217x300.

    as a spam filter and also don't use Norton (Symantec)
    instead get the top free anti-virus program called Avast


    http://www.avast.com/en-ca/free-antivirus-download

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    QUOTE: "Don't Hack me.....I Hack back"
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    Jan 14, 2011 10:31 PM GMT
    whoever99 saidWhen your computer is installed
    with windows 7 download Malwarebytes


    Malwarebytes-Anti-Malware-v1.50-217x300.

    as a spam filter and also don't use Norton (Symantec)
    instead get the top free anti-virus program called Avast


    http://www.avast.com/en-ca/free-antivirus-download

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    QUOTE: "Don't Hack me.....I Hack back"


    Is this all I need?
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    Jan 14, 2011 10:32 PM GMT
    P.s. If I keep this computer, there's no way I'm running it with VISTA.
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    Jan 14, 2011 11:49 PM GMT
    If you get a Mac and live anywhere near an Apple store, you can always make an appointment for free with the Genius Bar. They can help you with almost any of the common things you might run into.
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    Jan 15, 2011 12:51 AM GMT
    GwgTrunks saidMost of your concerns/complaints are pretty heavy on the user side of things, and really have little to do with the hardware/software.

    As nice as Apple computers are, you're going to spend a lot of money getting one that's even decent. OSX is a pretty heavy memory hog. I wouldn't run it with less than 4GB.

    I build custom laptops for a living... feel free to send me a message for some recommendations icon_biggrin.gif

    you aren't going to buy any apple notebook that isn't decent, unlike all the other manufacturers apple doesn't put out tat.

    Go a mac, I've had mine for almost 4 years now, never a problem, still loving every second of the damned thing every day I use it.
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    Jan 15, 2011 2:57 AM GMT
    If you load Win7, i'd go with Microsoft Security Essentials. it's pretty solid as an antivirus/antispyware program, just keep in mind that no antivirus is 100%. Just be careful with what you're clicking, lots of Facebook viruses going around too so keep an eye out for em.

    As far as that blue screen goes, 0x0a would either be a driver issue or incompatible software problem. cant really tell until you run a windows debugger and analyze the file that windows made (minidump file)