Laser hair removal : any advice ?

  • disasterpiece

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    Jan 14, 2011 7:47 AM GMT
    Okay, I'm a hairy dude, and I don't really dislike it... EXCEPT for my back and shoulders.

    I've been waxing my back 5 times, and I hate it for 2 reason ;

    1- It hurts like shit
    2 - My skin is really sensitive and get infected as shit. I have pimples all over my back and that's not better than hair, I can tell you.

    So I'm considering getting lazered, but I need some advices.

    The girl at the institute I get waxed at told me that I should wait around 27 years old because some "new" hair could grow after I get lazered and that would suck. But I don't really want to get my back waxed every 3 weeks for the next 5 days. Is it really a good advice or they're just trying to suck my money?

    Thanks guys !


  • Bunjamon

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    Jan 14, 2011 12:03 PM GMT
    Why 27 and not 26 or 28? Sounds like a pretty arbitrary number to me. It's true that hormonal changes can cause hair to grow after you've gotten it lasered away but "touchup" treatments can get rid of it no sweat.

    I have the same sensitive skin problem as you do, too, it's awful. I just need a real job before I can even think about getting a laser treatment.
  • dreamer121

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    Jan 14, 2011 1:56 PM GMT
    It hurts like a bitch, its expensive, but the results work. Do your homework with the laser people, and get one of those that is a "lifelong gurantee" and you won't have to work.

    Do your research and you'll be fine...
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    Jan 14, 2011 2:03 PM GMT
    I got laser hair removal on my upper lip when I was 19 through 22. I had so many thick hairs people would say "you forgot to shave your mustache" right after I shaved my upper lip. It took around 10 lasers over the course of 3 months to finally get the upper lip to look like the rest of my face.

    So yeah go for it. Or just trim every week (every other month if you're not sexually active). And go see a dermatologist about that back.
  • MichaelG

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    Jan 14, 2011 2:22 PM GMT
    Laser hair removal is misleading. It should be called laser hair reduction. The laser does not destroy the hair follicle, it only weakens it. The hair still grows back it is just finer. You would spend thousand of dollars to have your back done and it would still have hair on it. And anyone who tells you different is lying.

    Your best bet is to find a more qualified person to do your waxing. It should not hurt. At most it should be a quick sting. Not close to pain. Your person isn't doing something right.
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    Jan 14, 2011 2:24 PM GMT
    MichaelG saidLaser hair removal is misleading. It should be called laser hair reduction.


    True, but it's crept into pop-culture, just like the phrase "color blind," which should be "color deficient." It's near impossible to change this since there's no money behind shifting the definition of the terms.
  • disasterpiece

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    Jan 14, 2011 6:12 PM GMT
    MichaelG saidLaser hair removal is misleading. It should be called laser hair reduction. The laser does not destroy the hair follicle, it only weakens it. The hair still grows back it is just finer. You would spend thousand of dollars to have your back done and it would still have hair on it. And anyone who tells you different is lying.

    Your best bet is to find a more qualified person to do your waxing. It should not hurt. At most it should be a quick sting. Not close to pain. Your person isn't doing something right.


    Ok, It doesn't hurt that much. I actually like the person that does my waxing right now since she's qualified, attentive to what I want and does a pretty great job (no hair spots, follows my will, etc.)

    About laser hair reduction, I don't mind having a "duvet". It's just that right now, I look like a chimpanzee on SOME spots of my back and shoulders and it grosses me out.

    Plus, I had this deal with an institution which look pretty professionnal through a recognized commercial promoter (I love Montreal.com), they're offering an unlimited package for laiser hair removal/reduction of ANY part of the body for 199$ (instead of the suggested price of 1200$). That's what got me seriously thinking about it...

    And thanks for the advice everyone !
  • TampaRy

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    Jan 14, 2011 6:24 PM GMT
    I went to Ideal Image. They're a bit pricey, but you can negotiate the price down from their initial offier, and ask for any coupons they have lying around. I did my eyebrows and the back of my neck. The way they work, you can either pay per treatment (they say a minimum of 5 is needed for full treatment), or pay for a lifetime (which is the same price as 5 treatments, but you have to pay up front). For the lifetime plan, anytime you notice a hair, they'll treat the area all over again.

    I definitely recommend it if you can afford it. I personally love that I don't have to pluck or shave my neck anymore. It was getting to the point I'd have to do it every time before I went out, so it was a major time (and pain) saver.
  • disasterpiece

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    Jan 14, 2011 6:29 PM GMT
    Thanks TampaRY, but since I live in Montreal, I don't really apply to your advice.

    Actually, I was looking for comments on the actual threatment.

    Did you have strong skin reactions ?

    Were the results satisfying ?

    Anything I should know before getting this treatment?

  • tbone25

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    Jan 14, 2011 6:33 PM GMT
    Thanks for asking about this. I'm trying to figure this all out myself.
  • TampaRy

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    Jan 14, 2011 6:37 PM GMT
    Disasterpiece saidThanks TampaRY, but since I live in Montreal, I don't really apply to your advice.

    Actually, I was looking for comments on the actual threatment.

    Did you have strong skin reactions ?

    Were the results satisfying ?

    Anything I should know before getting this treatment?



    Sorry - I was just trying to give you a heads up on pricing/packages. Everywhere I looked had difference prices, packages, etc. Just be sure you're being smart about it because it's easy to get ripped off.

    Misc information: there are some lasers that don't kill the hair, like ones at most spas (from what I have heard), so be sure you're paying for permanent treatment. For two days after my first treatment, it looked like I had a rash on my neck where the hair used to be, but it just felt like a minor sunburn, and they told me to expect it. No skin reactions on my face (fortunately!).

    I love the results. They say it's not right for everyone, but from what I can see in your pics, we have similar skin and hair color, so I'd expect yours to turn out just as well!
  • vindog

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    Jan 14, 2011 6:40 PM GMT
    I did this.

    I am overall happy, although I am going to go in for more a few more treatments when I have some extra money. It definitely decreased it a lot in some places, moderately in others and seems to have totally disappeared in others.


    It also hurts, but only for a second....like a quick bee sting or a rubber band snapping on you. And plan it out so you don't have to wear a shirt all summer.


    And I'd say don't accept the price they give you. It's a service and is negotiable (esp in the state of affairs now....lazer hair removal is a luxury service that took a hit with the economic turn). I got shoulder and back treatment down from $3500 to $1000 for six treatments.




  • iowaguy000

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    Jan 14, 2011 7:00 PM GMT
    I had this done to my back. I went to the dermatology clinic at a local hospital. The last time, or maybe the one before the last time I was there, the resident asked why I didn't go somewhere else where it was cheaper. I haven't because I felt that if something went wrong they were best suited to treat it. I never had a bad experience though. It took six to eight treatments and I did mine over the course of a few years. I think it was about $500 per treatment, and took about an hour each time. It does sting. The laser is about the size of a quarter and it feels like a rubber band snapping you. So estimate how many quarters would fit on your back and that is how many times it feels you are being snapped with a rubber band. Was it worth it? Absolutely.

    If you have any questions you can ask them here or send an email.
  • disasterpiece

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    Jan 14, 2011 8:17 PM GMT
    Thanksfor all the advices guys !

    I'm gonna contact the institute that is offering the package for more information about their laser, the guarantees, etc.

    And I know about my skin/hair condition, I've been told before I was a perfect candidate for laser hair removal since my skin was clear and my hair dark.
  • disasterpiece

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    Jan 14, 2011 9:06 PM GMT
    Is there a difference of results between laser and pulsed light ?
  • mizu5

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    Jan 14, 2011 9:07 PM GMT
    As a note, if you have a history of psoriasis in your family don't do it.

    I have psoriasis, jsut developed it last year. My doctor told me not to go for Laser hair removal, which I took as a joke as I am essentially hairless naturally, but he was quite serious lol.
  • pure_motion

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    Jan 14, 2011 9:28 PM GMT
    The main differences between IPL (Intense Pulse Light) and laser hair removal are the type of wavelengths used, and the price. IPL is cheaper, but uses a broader, unspecified wavelength. This means you'll get more treatments than laser to achieve the same results, and in the hands of an under-experienced technician there is a higher risk of burns.

    Its definitely worth paying a little extra for the laser.

    Oh, and another added perk of laser, especially if you have sensitive skin, is that you don't get in-grown hairs. I've had some laser hair removal on my chest, and apart from some redness immediately after a treatment, its been good.

    People working at the clinics will tell you it will take two weeks (but more realistically 3 weeks) for all the hair to fall out after a treatment. Expect to look like you're covered in singed hair for a little while.
  • disasterpiece

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    Jan 14, 2011 10:13 PM GMT
    mizu5 saidAs a note, if you have a history of psoriasis in your family don't do it.

    I have psoriasis, jsut developed it last year. My doctor told me not to go for Laser hair removal, which I took as a joke as I am essentially hairless naturally, but he was quite serious lol.


    Oh thanks for this.

    My father has psoriasis and last year, I had 3 or 4 little psoriasis spots. I might consider this, but it's not laser here, it's IPL instead, so I'm not sure if the effect is the same.

    I don't have a personnal doctor, so I might just call a dermatologist... Anyone with psoriasis got lazered ?
  • rnch

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    Jan 14, 2011 10:16 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]Bunjamon said...I have the same sensitive skin problem as you do, too, it's awful. I just need a real job before I can even think about getting a laser treatment. [/quote]



    PLEASE do NOT laser off your pec and/or ab hair!!
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    Apr 01, 2012 8:08 PM GMT
    I am (still) having laser done from my collar bone down to my pubic bone, really chest and abs. I go to American Laser Skincare, in CT, USA. Lots I could say, some that's been said.

    Technically it is called "laser hair reduction" and I have yet anyone to fully explain what that is, and trust what they say.

    I was told by one laser place that being in my (forties at that time) was better than being younger, since hair is still growing until you are 35...her number. Of course, no matter what age, white or "grey" hair (as long as it has no pigment in it), cannot be removed with laser. Blond can, done with the right settings, because it has some pigment.

    Strong skin reactions? It's normal to have red areas and red spots after your treatment. It will go. It means the laser got to it, supposedly.

    Satisfying results? We'll see. I was told it would take six treatments, about two months apart. I am now going on my third year and can see another year of it. I asked the nurse who does the treatment how long it takes, and she said three years or so, which is not what I was told when they sold it to me. I after 3 years, I get charge $50 every half hour treatment, $100 over 30 minutes, so forth.

    Laser will hurt, too. Each person has a different pain tolerance.

    I'd really check it out first, and check out what you can't do or take while getting laser treatments. You cannot tan. If you come in tan or red, which can happen easily around people's necks and tops of shoulders, even if wearing a shirt of T-shirt, they will reject your treatment, and you may have to wait another two months more just to get one treatment. You can't be on antibiotics within a couple of weeks, so forth. Get a list so you are ready to be treated at your appointments.

    If you can stand the treatments, have the money, I would do it. Just make sure that it's all gone how you want it. They laser in rows, and as it goes, you will have hair growing and not growing in odd patches until it all goes.
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    Apr 01, 2012 11:30 PM GMT
    Leave the hair, its sexy
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    Apr 01, 2012 11:53 PM GMT
    GreenHopper saidLeave the hair, its sexy


    Not in the back >_>
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    Apr 02, 2012 12:02 AM GMT
    I've heard that the hair grows back after a few years. It's only temporary, apparently.
    I'm 20, and have been dealing with this problem, too. I guess being half Arabic has its ups and downs. However, I have learned to leave it alone and just shave/wax when necessary, but it leaves painful ingrown hairs because of the contours of my shoulders. Nair works, but not as nicely.

    I digress, just be comfortable with what you were given. How often are you shirtless to be waxing that much, anyway?

    And if you want to permanently destroy the hair follicles the free way, just get a 3rd degree burn on your back. It's quick, just as painful, and free! Wow!! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Apr 02, 2012 12:05 AM GMT
    I hate when people hate on hairy guys because
    A. it's natural
    B. it's demeaning
    C. if they had it, they wouldn't care as much

    Scientists need to make a one-dose cream that kills all hair follicles in a day.... while theyre at it, they should make a pill that stop DHT entirely from clogging hair follicles on your head...
    Or reverse the DHT from going to your head, to going to your back. Damn genetics, why couldn't you rule out male balding and hairy backs!!
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    Apr 02, 2012 12:01 PM GMT
    I just had my first session two weeks ago. I was surprised that it stung enough to make me jump. I was trying hard not to be a sissy but I couldn't help but twitch with every pulse. I didn't expect that it would make the hair follicle pop so loud that I could hear it.

    Gross.

    My skin is all prickly now as it's pushing out the dead stuff. From what I read, this is a good sign. I'm hoping it's worth it.