Problems while running...

  • rusty_dk

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    Mar 27, 2008 12:06 AM GMT
    This is going to be a little hard for me to explain so please bear with me...

    I began running a few weeks ago again, I dont care what any of you say and dont wanna be flammed for running either.

    Anyway, I know it isnt shinsplints becuase i have had them before and it doesnt hurt when i run my fingers over my shin. I get this excrutiating pain when i get home or if ive done a longer run it sets in the last 5 mins of my run. It feels like as though it is in my bones, in my tibia and fibia. To describe the pain its a constant pain, it doesnt thump, but it is constant like an ache. I kind of describe it to people as though its like being artritic. it lasts for about 30 mins or so and then goes away. Ice seems to help with the pain.

    So the pain aches from my tibia and fibia, was one leg but now its both, and also my groin seems to have taken a bit of a battering...I am going to go to the docotor but just wanted to see if any of you guys would have an idea as to what it could be...
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    Mar 27, 2008 2:34 AM GMT
    I've never heard of that sort of pain from running before. It doesn't sound like shin splints or a variation. It could possible be the result of a stress fracture. Or pulled muscles telegraphing their pain to other areas.

    I think a visit to the doctor is the best idea and something you should do soon.
  • imperator

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    Mar 27, 2008 4:42 AM GMT
    That sucks.. I have my own running-related difficulty that's come up the last couple times I've hit the treadmill. Once I start to heat up, my scalp starts to itch furiously. It doesn't do it any other time, just when I'm running and my temp starts to come up. Then it spreads down my neck to my chest/shoulders, and they start to itch. I don't have any manner of cooties. Has anyone heard of anything that could explain temperature-related skin irritation? It's really screwing up the cardio part of my routines. icon_mad.gif
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    Mar 27, 2008 5:19 AM GMT
    Where are you running bro? Track, Treadmill, Road? The one I can tell you with the unspecific information you have here, is that the vast, vast majority of all running problems are caused not by the knee or bones, but by your feet. Most runners will replace their running shoes every 300 to 500 miles. Most by a second pair about 150 miles into the use of the first. They alternate pairs with each run so they can clearly when the first pair is no longer providing the same level of shock absorbtion. The right pair of shoes is as important as new shoes. For example, if your shoes aren't properly supporting your arches, you can have knee problems, feet problems, spasms in the feet, etc. The other potential factor is over pronation (feet rotate too far inward on impact) that puts abnormal stress on the joints.

    The other possibility is Iliotibial Band Syndrome

    Definition: Pain and inflammation on the outside of the knee, where the iliotibial band (a muscle on the outside of the thigh) becomes tendinous, and results in a friction syndrome by rubbing against the femur (thigh bone) as it runs alongside the knee joint.

    illitibiol band syndrome Symptoms:
    Initially, a dull ache 1-2 kilometres into a run, with pain remaining for the duration of the run. The pain disappears soon after stopping running, Local tenderness and inflammation.

    All this being said, I am not a doctor and I can't possibly diagnose you with the limited information you've given here. So definitely see the doctor and carefully consider if the running shoes need to be replaced, and whether or not you have a good stretching program in place.

  • soccerstriker

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    Mar 27, 2008 5:40 AM GMT
    Maybe have your stride and form looked at by someone more experienced. If you just started, chances are you could improve your form, which is important in keeping your body aligned and healthy. And your run, in general, will become more comfortable.

    and a tip on icing shins. big bags of ice tend to be clunky and awkward on the shin so...fill some small paper dixie cups with water and put them in the freezer. when they are good and frozen you can tear the paper off and run the ice up & down your leg, the heat from your body will melt the ice into a shape fitted for your shin icon_smile.gif
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    Mar 27, 2008 6:56 AM GMT
    Are you running on Hard Ground like roads? Or grass or other? l jog every day well around my Volleyball court where i live its hard ground and l walk fast then run then walk etc thats all you need! You dont need to over do it as with anything in life!

    l did have that problem also a little when running on grass years ago?

    Good luck!
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    Mar 27, 2008 8:17 AM GMT
    I have had this pain before. It usually happens when you overwork your muscles in your legs, especially when it is cold outside. The pounding doesn't help either. You probably feel good when you squeeze your legs or kneel down on your tip-toes. Not sure what you have, but this is my experience.
  • GQjock

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    Mar 27, 2008 10:17 AM GMT
    While it's not the classic shin splint pain it's in the same ballpark
    the reason it lasts for a short time after your run is because it's coming from post exercise congestion and as the blood induced pressure subsides it begins to go away
    there is a tough band of ligamentous tissue between the tibia and fibula in the lower leg
    when pressure builds up within the muscles there the ligamentous tissue pulls on the two bones
    bones are extremely sensitive to pressure and ... they let you know
  • rusty_dk

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    Mar 27, 2008 10:43 AM GMT
    Yeah I've tried running on different surfaces, one on the concrete paths around my neighbourhood and another on a park path which is compacted sandy rock. I still seem to get it no matter what surface I run on.

    I made sure to pace myself accordingly as I had not run in a while. I thought it was perhaps me running too hard too soon. Autumn (Fall) is setting in here now and I thought that it might also be that, but we have also had a few days where the heat has been at least 40 degrees celcius or 104F for you americans and I still got the pains.

    I did tear the ligaments in my ankle from a gymnastic injury back in 2002, but that doesnt explain the pain in the other leg.

    All I can say is that the pain is excrutiating when I get back...on the brink of crying type pain. I never used to have the problems before and I used to run nearly every second day.

    As for my shoes, I went to a shoe shop where you walk on a rubber mat and then run across it and the pressure you induce on the mat comes up on the screen and they ramble on about how you do this here and that there on your feet then they select the shoe for you to wear.

    Im thinking that the doctor is going to be my best bet at finding out whats the problem. It's just frustrating 'cause I love running icon_sad.gif
  • GQjock

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    Mar 28, 2008 6:02 AM GMT
    That's just quackery...
    before you go to the Dr ... try one thing
    this type of pain is usually caused by a relative imbalance of muscle power in the lower legs
    where the calf muscles are stronger than the muscles that lift the foot in the front
    ....before a run
    stretch the hell out of the gastroc muscles
    ck out some stretches to do online
  • brunsfast

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    Apr 08, 2008 2:11 PM GMT

    This sounds like it could be a rare problem called compartment syndrome. You'll need a sports medicine doctor (Orthopedic Surgeon) to make this diagnosis. I've seen it happen in two other runners. It can be really painful and even dangerous if it's not treated. Basically, your muscle tissue is becoming too inflamed and is keeping blood from circulating through the front part of your leg. The muscle isn't getting enough oxygen and this is dangerous.
  • rusty_dk

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    Apr 09, 2008 1:01 AM GMT
    Well I took a week off from running and then stretched the hell out of my legs for aboout 10 mins or so...havent had the problem since...

    No idea what the hell was happening but it all seems to be cool now.
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    Apr 12, 2008 7:59 AM GMT

    If you had the pain before it suggests that something may be wrong. I am not a doctor but there are some good suggestions in this thread. I think you should see a sports doctor or podiatrist to et it checked out.

    I had an issue a few months ago as everytime I ran I got major pain in my upper ankle and lower calf. As it turns out I had an extremely tight calf, a few weeks of stretching and now I am all good

    Hope it gets better for you
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    Apr 12, 2008 8:23 AM GMT
    I find running to be a generally bad idea. It should only be employed when trying to escape angry grizzly bears or myspace stalkers who spot you at the grocery store or chasing after hot ass or an ice cream truck.