Wrestling Homophobia (That's So Gay!) Video from Documentary

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    Jan 14, 2011 10:11 PM GMT
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    Jan 18, 2011 12:28 AM GMT
    Just had a guy post on another one of my clips:

    "Why would you want´╗┐ to wrestle or fight if you are gay?"

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    Jan 18, 2011 12:31 AM GMT
    cool video.

    i find wrestling extremely erotic.. to watch, never really wrestle personally.
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    Jan 18, 2011 12:49 AM GMT
    Thanks for posting. Yeah, I have to agree what the people are saying on the clip - America is definitely afraid of the male figure.
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    Jan 18, 2011 12:51 AM GMT
    hdurdinr saidThanks for posting. Yeah, I have to agree what the people are saying on the clip - America is definitely afraid of the male figure.


    Fully agree. It amazes me how different the USA reacts to this type of thing compared to much of the world.
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    Jan 18, 2011 1:00 AM GMT
    I wrestled in HS and I have to say that it wasn't an erotic thing for me, at all. I did it for the sport, the challenge and the competition, not because I wanted to touch other boys. When your involved in something as intense and demanding as wrestling there really isn't any mental energy left to devote to sexual thoughts. It was a completely asexual thing for me.

    However, I suppose that from the perspective of someone watching wrestling it can be a fairly erotic thing.

    But yes, I do agree that homophobia has negatively impacted bonding between men.... However I'm not sure if I think that just b/c I'm gay. It'd be interesting to have a straight guys perspective.
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    Jan 29, 2011 7:11 PM GMT
    This is the type of comments I have to deal with on Youtube now and then for these clips. Makes you want to whack their parents upside their heads.

    "All you guys are a bunch of freakin pansies. Being gay is not normal. I dont hate gay guys because honestly most of them were turned on to it at a young age by some sicko. I would never hurt a guy just cause hes gay but I would also NEVER train with a gay guy. Why would you wrestle with someone whos sexually attracted to men. As for all you saying you wrestle with girls you must be some weak sissies if you cant easily outwrestle a girl. Having gays around is not a good example for kids."
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    Jan 29, 2011 7:15 PM GMT
    I think gay men with experience in wrestling, martial arts, boxing, etc., should help their less athletically inclined, bullied brothers by teaching them to defend themselves. Pay it forward.
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    Jan 29, 2011 7:22 PM GMT
    I find wrestling....very interesting sometimes...

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    Jul 31, 2011 2:09 AM GMT
    Great youtube post. We all need more wrestling!
  • Lawrence_2014

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    Nov 20, 2013 4:40 AM GMT
    i'm a senior in high school, I've been in wrestling for 4 years,and I just accepted that i'm gay. I"m choosing not to wrestle this year, because it kinda makes me feel uncomfortable wrestling younger guys, but i haven't wrestled anyone this year so i don't know this for sure. The main reason is, I don't know how people will react, to me coming out. My coach is ok with it, but i'm planning on swimming instead.

    So here's my question, do I join wrestling even though it might be difficult dealing with everyone, if I do fully come out.
    Or do i join swimming, which appears to be an easier coming out path, but it would make me feel sad, because it would mean giving into my fears and the stigma that gay people should stay out of wrestling.
  • andreduce

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    Nov 20, 2013 4:56 AM GMT
    this seems like a baaadd documentary. and unsubstantiated. I come from a small town in the middle of the midwest where (usually) wrestling was our only GOOD sport, consistently, and yeah, guys are guys and will throw around homophobic-sounding remarks, but in my small town, to wrestle was a thing of honor and integrity and hard work....not homoerotic playfulnessicon_neutral.gif
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    Nov 20, 2013 5:09 AM GMT
    Lawrence_2014 saidi'm a senior in high school, I've been in wrestling for 4 years,and I just accepted that i'm gay. I"m choosing not to wrestle this year, because it kinda makes me feel uncomfortable wrestling younger guys, but i haven't wrestled anyone this year so i don't know this for sure. The main reason is, I don't know how people will react, to me coming out. My coach is ok with it, but i'm planning on swimming instead.

    So here's my question, do I join wrestling even though it might be difficult dealing with everyone, if I do fully come out.
    Or do i join swimming, which appears to be an easier coming out path, but it would make me feel sad, because it would mean giving into my fears and the stigma that gay people should stay out of wrestling.


    bud, if you want to wrestle, wrestle. what you should do is ask yourself this question:

    "When I am wrestling another person, am I enjoying the fact that I have the privilege to do something I love to do, or is this just some excuse to be close to another dude physically, without a necessarily obvious social stigma?"

    And I would assume that the former is correct, since you have been doing it for your high school career and it sounds like you like the sport.

    If you wrestle (which, I think you should) and also fully come out....yeah some guys will probably be sheepish about it, but as long as you do not change as a person, you may be surprised how accepting your teammates will beicon_smile.gif

    best of luck to you man.
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    Nov 20, 2013 6:34 PM GMT
    Lawrence_2014 saidi'm a senior in high school, I've been in wrestling for 4 years,and I just accepted that i'm gay. I"m choosing not to wrestle this year, because it kinda makes me feel uncomfortable wrestling younger guys, but i haven't wrestled anyone this year so i don't know this for sure. The main reason is, I don't know how people will react, to me coming out. My coach is ok with it, but i'm planning on swimming instead.

    So here's my question, do I join wrestling even though it might be difficult dealing with everyone, if I do fully come out.
    Or do i join swimming, which appears to be an easier coming out path, but it would make me feel sad, because it would mean giving into my fears and the stigma that gay people should stay out of wrestling.


    Follow your heart, friend, and wrestle.
    It won't be any different this year than before, just because you're at this new and higher level of self-awareness and acceptance.
    Seems the coach has your back if word gets out about your being gay. That's a crucial detail. In fact that makes all the difference in the world.
    Do you know how much you're admired by more people than just me, for having the brass nuts to be out to yourself AND start telling others while still in high school? Not only that, you're doing this in a Northern Plains "red" state and in a military town. Give yourself a big and well-deserved pat on the back! icon_biggrin.gif
    Mull this over: Was the sport that made you physically stronger and mentally tougher, and instilled courage and tenacity, wrestling or swimming or neither? ("I thought so.") If you pass on being a mat-man this season, wrestling loses you as well as vice versa. Look at what it's made of you and where it's gotten you.
    Follow your heart, friend.

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    Nov 20, 2013 7:25 PM GMT
    andreduce saidthis seems like a baaadd documentary. and unsubstantiated. I come from a small town in the middle of the midwest where (usually) wrestling was our only GOOD sport, consistently, and yeah, guys are guys and will throw around homophobic-sounding remarks, but in my small town, to wrestle was a thing of honor and integrity and hard work....not homoerotic playfulnessicon_neutral.gif


    I suggest you watch the entire 2-hour documentary. There is much more to it than this clip. The homoeroticism/homophobia discussion is a small part (about 25 minutes).http://www.wrestlingfilm.com
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    Mar 13, 2014 11:55 PM GMT
    Great documentary, thanks for making it!