Dream of the 90s

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    Jan 15, 2011 7:37 AM GMT


    I will always love my beautiful Portland. I've known her for all my life, and she will always hold that special place in my heart! icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 15, 2011 8:02 AM GMT
    It's an actual show called Portlandia. I just watched the first episode and LOVED it. Neo-hippy douche bags are so prevalent up and down the West Coast. I'm so glad there's a show to make fun of them finally.
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    Jan 15, 2011 12:58 PM GMT
    JB82 saidIt's an actual show called Portlandia. I just watched the first episode and LOVED it. Neo-hippy douche bags are so prevalent up and down the West Coast. I'm so glad there's a show to make fun of them finally.




    I never needed a show before....it was too easy.





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    Jan 15, 2011 3:35 PM GMT
    I can't speak for the show's "funniness," but if this clip showcases what it has to offer, I'm going to pass. Painfully unfunny.

    It's also weird because both comedians here were members of well-known 90's bands--Armisen in Trenchmouth and Brownstein in the admittedly way more popular Sleater-Kinney.

    Given this, the show seems like nothing more than an attempt to tell jokes from a 90's-subculture point of view all done with a wink and a nod. And, regardless of its delivery, it's all helping glorify the next decade in line on the conveyor belt of recycled trends to be hipster-retro. Christ, the hipsters in Chicago (and I'm assuming other places) are already glorifying the 90's because, of course, half of them were born in the 90's, providing a bit of mystique to the decade, but the rest should know better. To a great degree, the mid- to late-90's are where creativity went to die and nothing should try to revive them.

    I suppose this is all a tangent, but I view this show as related to the emergence of a vile trend.
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    Jan 15, 2011 3:42 PM GMT
    Greg0201 saidI can't speak for the show's "funniness," but if this clip showcases what it has to offer, I'm going to pass. Painfully unfunny.


    Do you think the reason you don't find it funny is that they're making fun of the demographic to which you belong? icon_lol.gif

    As for the 90s, it really has nothing to do with much outdated it if you watch it. The show pokes fun at the abundant culture of overly sensitive neo-hippies, women's right activists, people overanalyzing organic chickens, etc. It's about time a show makes fun of this surplus of liberal doucha bags roaming the planet. It's really and awesome show.
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    Jan 15, 2011 3:46 PM GMT
    Nah, I love laughing at myself, although, admittedly, it may be slightly making fun of a past version of myself.

    Of course, I also much prefer good humor, or even scathing humor, over whatever this is.

    I've also met enough disingenuous, soulless, pack-mentality-having, "hipsters" to know that I agree with your last sentiment to a degree.

    Humor. It's a fickle bitch.
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    Jan 15, 2011 3:49 PM GMT
    I'm just saying watch the first episode on hulu.com. I personally think the music video is misleading. The episode reminded me a lot of Little Britain.
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    Jan 15, 2011 3:52 PM GMT
    I'll give it a watch, but if you're wrong, you will feel my wrath (i.e., I'll bitch and moan some more).
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    Jan 15, 2011 3:56 PM GMT
    I visited Portland OR a few years ago and thought it was a beautiful city. Much nicer than SF.
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    Jan 15, 2011 3:56 PM GMT
    If I'm wrong then I'll watch one episode of a TV show that I've never watched before which you enjoy.
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    Jan 15, 2011 3:58 PM GMT
    Mil8 saidI visited Portland OR a few years ago and thought it was a beautiful city. Much nicer than SF.


    Oh TOTALLY. What gives Portland it's awesomeness is that San Francisco and Seattle boast so much about their hippy liberal bullshit that no one even notices Portland. It's like Portland is cool because they're an unknown warehouse rave in the early 90s.
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    Jan 15, 2011 4:03 PM GMT
    Leave Carrie alone, Greg. I <3 her.

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    Jan 15, 2011 4:56 PM GMT
    I'm not picking on Brownstein! I like her too.

    I was picking on what I perceived to be a tongue-in-cheek nod to the 90's. A shitty rehash where older indie rockstars relive the glory days in ways that aren't amusing to the viewer.

    However, I did watch the 1st episode on Hulu just now, and it's not nearly as 90's-referential or consisting of shitty humor as the intro above suggests (which is still awful in my opinion).

    It is actually more mocking of modern-day trends, which I totally support.

    Show positives:

    - The brief, yet beautifully shot, intro set to the tune of wash-out, noise-layered, lo-fi pop a la Neon Indian or Small Black.

    - The entire organic chicken sketch. I love the frumped-up polygamist ranch get-ups too. It's basically absurdity done right, and sketches like this serve as evidence that the writers are influenced by great shows like Mr. Show, and can make it work.

    - Some decent dialogue that mocks the oversensitivity of supposed ultra-liberalism (e.g., "This isn't a hooker-pimp scenario. When a man pulls out money away from a register I have to wonder!")

    Negatives:

    - When working in the absurd, you have to be careful not to go overboard (relative to the material, of course). The hide-and-seek sketch, while great with the elderly woman's commentary, was somewhat ruined by the bad joke of the guy hiding since 1979. It brought to mind that awful joke in 1986's "Summer School" where the one guy was missing the entire movie because his zipper got stuck in the bathroom. Har har. Also, I absolutely loved the entire "technology loop" sketch until they overstepped the joke and introduced the Mind-Fi concept. It's too much. It needs to be pared down or else it'll lose its ability to sustain itself. Less is more etc.

    - The intro. Fuck, it's really horrible. I'm sorry.

    Overall Rating:

    B-: It has promise, but has a tendency to crash and burn. I also worry about it running out of material and getting stale. I can tell it has decent influences and Armisen and Brownstein are appealing. I've often found Armisen to be less than funny on SNL, but sketches like this are more his element.
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    Jan 15, 2011 6:58 PM GMT
    Aaaah the 90's... Anyone rememer Felicity? No? Um, yeah me neither... Bye!
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    Jan 15, 2011 7:11 PM GMT
    Too good. Love how he removes a few piercings at the end cause she looks a "little too San Francisco."

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    Jan 15, 2011 7:35 PM GMT
    JB82 said
    Mil8 saidI visited Portland OR a few years ago and thought it was a beautiful city. Much nicer than SF.


    Oh TOTALLY. What gives Portland it's awesomeness is that San Francisco and Seattle boast so much about their hippy liberal bullshit that no one even notices Portland. It's like Portland is cool because they're an unknown warehouse rave in the early 90s.




    Yes, however I've noticed growing pretentiousness coming out of Portlanders these days....like it's impossible that anywhere else can be a cool place to live.

    That said, I really like the city of Portland and all my friends there.




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    Jan 15, 2011 8:02 PM GMT
    I think the secret to SNL-type of humor is airing it late on Saturday night when the audience is so wasted that they'll laugh at anything. It's never that funny on Wednesday morning.

    Some time back, I read an interview with one of the original SNL cast members, about how they repeatedly tried to parody the "Laverne & Shirley" show. No matter how outrageously dumb they tried to make the gag... it still just looked like an ordinary episode of Laverne & Shirley.
    That's going to be the main problem with Portlandia.

    Pretentiousness? Oh yeah, it's like a whole bunch of little naked emperors swimming around in a fish tank. There's a sort of horrifying fascination to it though.

    Excuse me, I actually have to go drive to pdx right now, but I have to change first. I seem to be wearing too many REI-brand items. Wouldn't want to be mistaken for one of those other douchebags walking down the street.
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    Jan 15, 2011 8:47 PM GMT
    JB82 saidI'm just saying watch the first episode on hulu.com. I personally think the music video is misleading. The episode reminded me a lot of Little Britain.



    Come on, like anything that even looks remotely like Little Britain will EVER make it on American TV
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    Jan 15, 2011 9:49 PM GMT
    JB82 saidNeo-hippy douche bags are so prevalent up and down the West Coast. I'm so glad there's a show to make fun of them finally.

    I haven't watched this show yet but I've an inkling that a "neo hippie douchebag" is exactly what my cousin, born and bred in Brooklyn, turned into almost overnight 22 years ago when he followed his girlfriend to Seattle and immediately embraced grunge, coffee shops and started knocking New York and railing against east coast hypocrisy. That lasted for several years until he met his future Italian wife, bought a Vespa scooter and adopted his new world view, which in short denigrates America. The pretense! Not that he’d ever actually move to Europe but next I expect him to adopt a fake British accent.
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    Jan 15, 2011 11:23 PM GMT
    So just now I was at my local starbucks across the st, and in line in front of me was this guy that was on the phone, with the phone pressed between his ear and shoulder.

    he was up, and stood in front of the till without actually ordering anything and continuing his phone convo. So i cut in front of him and ordered, the guy moved to the till next over, and asked without even looking up "do you have organic coffee?".

    he was told they did not, and turned around and walked.

    That's the type, hands down.
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    Jan 16, 2011 8:09 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidI think the secret to SNL-type of humor is airing it late on Saturday night when the audience is so wasted that they'll laugh at anything.



    I can't imagine the type of person wasted at home on a Saturday night watching SNL....I think that it's just dumb or really young people that think SNL is funny, wasted as nothing to do with it. It's so steeped in making fun of pop culture you have watch a lot of TV, MTV and listen to corporate radio to get the jokes mostly.


    SNL hasn't been funny in probably 25 years....when I was locked into pop culture like that.



    I still want to watch Portlandia, as it's totally going to make fun of my friends, a lot of people I work with, a lot of people that annoy me and myself too!

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    Jan 16, 2011 8:10 PM GMT
    vindog said
    mindgarden saidI think the secret to SNL-type of humor is airing it late on Saturday night when the audience is so wasted that they'll laugh at anything.



    I can't imagine the type of person wasted at home on a Saturday night watching SNL....I think that it's just dumb or really young people that think SNL is funny, wasted as nothing to do with it. It's so steeped in making fun of pop culture you have watch a lot of TV, MTV and listen to corporate radio to get the skits. And since most of the aforementioned is garbage, thus so is SNL.


    SNL hasn't been funny in probably 25 years....when I was locked into pop culture like that.



    I still want to watch Portlandia, as it's totally going to make fun of my friends, a lot of people I work with, a lot of people that annoy me and myself too!

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    Jan 17, 2011 4:26 AM GMT
    OK, well I haven't actually watched SNL in 25 years, probably. But I was watching a "best of" disc at a friends not long ago, and we were all trying to figure out why we used to think it was funny.
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    Jan 17, 2011 4:39 AM GMT
    My experience with Portlanders (which, to be fair, is somewhat limited, as I've never been there) is that they solely define themselves not by what they are, but what they not (namely, a Californian, or even worse is an Angeleno, who to them is practically the spawn of satan).

    I get an extra special joy when the Lakers beat the Blazers just because i know how much they hate us and how much they'd love to have confirmation of their supposed superiority, regardless of the arena.
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    Jan 17, 2011 4:53 AM GMT
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    JB82 saidI'm just saying watch the first episode on hulu.com. I personally think the music video is misleading. The episode reminded me a lot of Little Britain.



    Come on, like anything that even looks remotely like Little Britain will EVER make it on American TV


    This is remotely like Little Britain. It's the same two characters playing different roles, blending homosexuality in all the time.