If i eat all this a day will I lose weight?

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    Jan 15, 2011 2:58 PM GMT
    Okies... So i'm currently 70 kgs, I'm 160 cm tall and that means i'm currently like 6-7 kilos overweight.

    However it's all so confusing, so this is my question. If i eat all of what I list below will i lose weight?

    Breakfast (Cereal with skinny milk) 196 calories

    (Snack: Fruit) 100 calories

    Lunch (Lasagne) 550 Calories

    Snack (Veg) 100 calories

    Dinner searched chicken sala. I HATE SALAD! Not sure how many calories here thou icon_sad.gif

    (Snack) Yogurt. 200 calories

    Okies... Half of them are estimated calories...

    However from what i've been told a piece of fruit or veg is around about 100 calories. And i imagine the searced chicken salad wouldnt be that bad, especially since i have no dressing.

    Okies, so all up from my research I need to aim for 1500 calories and like 45 mins of excersize a day to lose weight, but is there anything i should chage? Or anything nicer and less calories u could reccomend? Please help, im so oo confused.
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    Jan 15, 2011 4:50 PM GMT
    the trick to losing weight is to burn more calories than you are taking in. i would watch your carb and fat intake as well. your choices seem pretty carb-heavy (cereal, lasagna, fruit..), so i would do something more like:

    (the different lines mean other options, not an addition to that list. meaning "or" not "and")

    Breakfast:
    - Oatmeal that you make yourself - not from a pack (too much sugar). toss some raisins in there, a dash of salt, and a few shakes of Cinnamon
    - Eggs/egg whites and Yogurt
    - Eggs/egg whites and lean meat (such as turkey sausage)

    Snack (morning and/or afternoon - or whenever you are hungry):
    - Protein shake
    - Almonds
    - Hard-boiled eggs

    Lunch:
    - Chicken breast with veggies
    - Turkey burger with a salad
    - Pulled loin/pulled with veggies
    - Fish and veggies

    Dinner:
    same types of options from lunch. meat and veggies, but i would cut some of the portion down some unless you are too hungry.

    also note:
    - the beginning of the day you can do some carbs, but as the day progresses, your carb intake should decrease.
    - a lot of people forget about their liquid intake. a lot of empty calories come from going out and drinking (beer, liquor, wine), sodas, juice (OJ, apple, cranberry). make sure you are drinking water, or at very least make the soda "diet"

    that should be about it. you have to enjoy the things you are eating though, so stick to a plan you know will work. if what i said above has food you don't like.. substitute other things. stay away from fried stuff, refined carb stuff - white rice, pasta, potatoes. if you want some carbs to help go for brown rice or sweet potatoes. i eat a spoonful of peanut butter (natural PB, not Jiffy, etc), because that is my guilty pleasure when i'm trying to eat well. it is hard to adjust at first, esp if you cut out a lot of unnecessary carbs, but you'll start to feel a lot better.

    another take is just to eat "raw" (unprocessed). eat like a caveman. cavemen didn't have cakes, candy bars, ice cream, fried chicken. they had things like - meats and veggies. so when you are asking yourself what to eat say - could a caveman eat this? i don't think they had lasagna back then.

    another thing to keep in mind is - be prepared for snack hunger. have things on hand - protein shake mix, almonds, sliced/chunks of turkey or chicken, egg salad.. those sorts of things. so you dont go tearing through the cabinets and eat something quick and bad like potato chips, candy, etc. though, if you eat something bad one day, give yourself a break. it won't "ruin" all the work you've done like everyone thinks.

    then - hit the gym, and sweat up a storm. if you are burning more than you are taking in, then you are well on your way to losing weight.
  • coolarmydude

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    Jan 15, 2011 5:02 PM GMT
    I agree. Increase your calories and include more protein. Be sure to do anaerobic exercise (lift), even if it's light weights. Muscle gain also increases metabolism which burns more fat.
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    Jan 15, 2011 5:08 PM GMT
    You don't want to drop much more weight. Keep your calories up, do HIIT, and lift weights.

    At 5'7", 153# is near the bottom end. If you lose much more weight you'll lose most your lean muscle, your metabolism will slow, and it will become increasingly harder to stay lean.

    Eat! Your diet is TERRIBLE. Caloric restriction, particularly carbs, teaches your body how to become a SLUGGISH, FAT-STORING, machine. STOP IT.

    Here's the standard weight chart for sedentary men. Real jocks / athletes will weigh considerably more due to having better muscular development. Don't forget, ever pound of lean muscle mass burns 20 calories per day just sitting. It's MUCH easier to stay lean if you have lean muscle on your frame. Muscular development is the ONLY way to increase your metabolism AS YOU GROW OLDER. Right now, you're headed completely the wrong direction. Eat.

    As thin as you are, wanting to lose much weight should not be in your list of personal goals.

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    Jan 15, 2011 5:42 PM GMT
    But I don't understand... Eat more calories? I NEED TO LOSE THE WEIGHT! Nothing fits me, and everyone keeps telling me "How big i've got"

    I'm so fat and my boyfriend just broke up with me... So how will eating more calories help me lose weight? I just wanna fit into clothes again and feel confident... I don't want muscle or anything, i liked being scrawny before... And what i don't understand... If all calories are equal? Why does it matter how much of what fat group i eat? Won't i still lose weight? I'm sorry, i know nothing about weight loss or anything, I've done some simple research but it's all too bewillerding.

    And from my research they all said that to lose weight i should be on a 1500 calorie diet.

    If not... And calories arn't equal... Can someone give me an amount of grams per fat group i should be eating? i got told 50 g's of fat, 100 g's of carbs and like 100 grams of protein. Is that right? Can i just follow that? I don't care about nutrition, i just wanna be normal again, and everytime i go one way, i get told its wrong and to go another! ITS SO FRUSTRATING!
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    Jan 15, 2011 5:56 PM GMT
    Eat more. You're on a starvation diet. You posted that you're only eating 1146 calories per day. If you have 131 pounds of lean muscle ( 155 * .15 = 131, 131 * 20 = 2635, 2635 + 600 = 3235) you need 3,235 calories per day just to keep from losing weight if you are active for 1 hour per day at the gym. Eating less causes your metabolism to slow, your body to start storing fat, and your muscle to be catabolized to replace that calorie shortage.

    Nobody gives a shit about your drama. You're right in the middle for someone your height, and that's for an out of shape person. Athletes will weigh way more.

    If you want to be leaner, you need to "fuel the furnace." That means eating, and getting busy. When your body has fuel, your metabolism speeds up, you have energy that increases your exercise performance, you can add weight and that makes it MUCH easier to be lean, as well as keeps you healthy.

    You're headed COMPLETELY the wrong direction towards what we like to call "skinny fat" with no muscle, starvation diet, and a very slow metabolism, that could plague you throughout adulthood. EAT.

    When I get lean, like this, I eat 4800 to 5800 calories per day, and do HIIT at 12 to 20 minutes, per day. (Usually just 12 minutes.) You don't want to be skinny fat. You want to be strong, lean, young, and vital. You'll feel better both physically, and in your brain.

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    Don't sabotage your body via over dieting. Eat. Get busy. Get lean. Get strong. Don't listen to all the drama. Those folks are clueless.

    Lift weights, increase your muscle. That muscle makes it much easier to stay lean. It burns calories just sitting there. It's the only thing that does, other than your brain, and other organs. You can starve yourself, but, unless you get active, you'll be setting yourself up for failure, and bad health. Eat. Exercise. Gain muscle. Gain lean. That's how it works.

    You can't gain muscle without calories. You can't have exercise performance without calories. Eat.
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    Jan 15, 2011 6:07 PM GMT
    What i posted wasn't my current diet, its what i was gonna do... But if u say to eat calories, i already am... today i've had 6 glasses of coke, large quarte pounder meal. a bowl of lasagne. a bag of lollies and a glass of alchahol. So currently i have heaps of calories... and im just getting bigger! and bigger! outwards. So all i have to do currently is go the gym for an hour then?
  • benarw

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    Jan 15, 2011 6:25 PM GMT
    Where your calories come from does matter. If you eat 1500 calories a day by eating shit like big macs and drinking coke that's no good. You need a good balance of fruits, vegies, protein, fat, and carbs.

    Keep in mind each serving of coke (8oz) contains about 200 calories, which means that a bottle of coke (16oz) contains almost 400 calories. So drinking 6 cokes comes to 2400 calories just from the coke.

    Cut out the soda and fast food for a start. Losing weight is about combining healthy eating habits, cardio, and weight lifting.

    I lost 23 pounds by changing my thinking on what is ok to eat. Do allow yourself to cheat now and then. But make sure that most of you meals are high in protein and vegies.

    Weight loss is 80% diet and 20% exercise.

    Good luck on your weight loss journey!
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    Jan 15, 2011 6:32 PM GMT
    NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE!!! OMG!!! First i thought i needed calorie restriction, only to find out i need to be eating 5,000 calories a day and be in the gym for an hour, i don't have that time!

    Can anyone just simply help me? Tell me something i'll understand... Please, im begging! It doesn't mke sense to me... Does that mean it's impossible to lose weight for my body type? Do you have to just be born skinny or muscley? I really dont want muscle on my body... like, i think muscle is grose... i just wanna be skinny!

    What about what i asked before? If i eat 50 gramsd of fat, 100 grams of carbs and 100 grams of protein? is that healthy? Will i lose weight combined with 45 minutes of excersize a day? I cant go to a gym. It needs to be simple, like just what food i need to eat and walking and running.
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    Jan 15, 2011 7:08 PM GMT
    Sounds like you just want an easy answer -- well buddy, it doesn't exist. Nobody can tell you how your body will get "skinny" but you.

    P.S -- muscles are beautiful.
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    Jan 15, 2011 7:11 PM GMT
    All i wanna do is lose weight... Why does it have to be all so complicated? Seriously? Why can't i just eat a good amount of fat groups each day and excersize by walking? Why won't that work?
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    Jan 15, 2011 7:28 PM GMT
    Beneim saidOkies... So i'm currently 70 kgs, I'm 160 cm tall and that means i'm currently like 6-7 kilos overweight.

    However it's all so confusing, so this is my question. If i eat all of what I list below will i lose weight?



    Lunch (Lasagne) 550 Calories




    Ohhh Pasta is evil..Change this to high-protein, low-carb (like white meat chicken with veggies)

    Good luck ;)
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    Jan 15, 2011 7:31 PM GMT
    okies with my specs... can someone tell me how many grams of fat, protein and carbs i should be eating? And what time of the day to eat them and how long i'll have to excersize to lose weight... This will work right?
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    Jan 15, 2011 7:34 PM GMT
    Beneim saidAll i wanna do is lose weight... Why does it have to be all so complicated? Seriously? Why can't i just eat a good amount of fat groups each day and excersize by walking? Why won't that work?


    I think you should employ a personal trainer. They are properly trained to take all aspects of your goals. The problem with a forum is there are a few different methods to attack this problem. Caloric restriction is obviously part of any weight loss but to have long term change, you need more than dietary change. you cant expect to eat twigs and berries for the rest of your life.

    The key components to highlight for safe and long term weight loss would be:

    + loosing weight at a pace of 1-2 lbs a week or 1% of your total body weight (this rate keeps it from returning)
    + Strength training to increase metabolism
    + Cardio training to make your metabolic system efficient
    + caloric restriction of about 500 calories a day below what your body requires
    (there is a formula that calculates http://www.shapeup.org/interactive/rmr1.php or have a RESTING METABOLIC RATE test for most accurate results about $125 for the first test and $80 for each additional test.
    + drink at least 2 Liters of water and remove carbonated drinks from your diet (even diet or reduced calorie drinks)

    + Employ a personal trainer with a accredited degree of exercise science with a nationally held certification.

    + also never buy nutritional supplements encouraged by a trainer because that is beyond scope of practice. Only a nationally recognized nutritionist should prescribe supplements for someone who is specifically deficient.

    I am finishing up my degree in this field so I understand the science behind the human metabolic system
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    Jan 15, 2011 7:42 PM GMT
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    Beneim saidOkies... So i'm currently 70 kgs, I'm 160 cm tall and that means i'm currently like 6-7 kilos overweight.

    However it's all so confusing, so this is my question. If i eat all of what I list below will i lose weight?

    Lunch (Lasagne) 550 Calories


    Ohhh Pasta is evil..Change this to high-protein, low-carb (like white meat chicken with veggies)

    Good luck ;)


    high protien diets cause quick weight loss but also cause many long term health problems. also, the weight will come back quickly when you return to a normal diet.

    Protein can be burned for energy in the body but leaves residual amine group waist in your body. your kidneys must work hard to remove the excessive nitrogenous waste caused by burning protein for fuel. The brain and nervous system will only burn carbohydrates for fuel. so having 120 grams of carbohydrates in your diet is essential for proper brain function.
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    Jan 15, 2011 7:47 PM GMT
    Okies... so im gonna eat 50 grams of fat, 150 grams of carbs, and 100 grams of protein each day plus 45 minutes excersize... And i'll lose weight.. Healithy... Right? And just also eat like a caveman... But in all honesty, fuck nutrition lol. i really couldnt care less, i just wanna fit into clothes.and we have no gyms where i live, so i cant workout anyways.
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    Jan 15, 2011 8:25 PM GMT
    Any more advice?
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    Jan 15, 2011 8:28 PM GMT
    Buy larger size clothes and skip the rest.
  • Webster666

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    Jan 15, 2011 8:43 PM GMT
    Unless you get some exercise, you're not going to see much (if any weight loss).
    When you starve yourself, your body goes into emergency preservation mode and stores as much fat as possible.
    Exercise changes your metabolism, which, right now, is, most likely, very slow.
    If you do nothing more than go out for a walk every day, it will make a big difference in your energy, your metabolism, and your weight loss. But, you have to walk fast, not just strolling along, and stopping to window shop.
    Start out walking just a few blocks, then add a couple more blocks each week until you're covering at least 10 blocks out, and 10 blocks back to your house. It's hard, at first. But, it will get easier.

    Congratulations for caring enough to want to do something.
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    Jan 15, 2011 10:37 PM GMT
    Estimating calories gets people in trouble. You'll end up underestimating so that there's a (fake) surplus in your calorie budget to justify eating crap.
    So something like http://www.myfitnesspal.com/ to accurately track your calories. Food fat has about double the amount of calories of carb and protein so it's not crazy much more. Just become aware.

    Very calorie-dense food will not make you feel very full compared to how fat they will make you. For instance a 100 grams of ground beef with 10% fat contains 200 kcal but so does a 100 grams of whole wheat burger bun. Meanwhile a 100 grams of boiled potatoes contains only 86 kcal.
    Now beef with 5% fat will make you just as full as beef with 10% fat with only ~3/4 of the calories. And carrots have half the calories of potatoes ('sides the only potatoes in the states are fries and they are no longer potatoes).
    So the reason people tell you to avoid bread, pasta, cereal, etc is that they are very calorically dense. Also they are digested very quickly so instead of a steady stream of nutrition your body is getting a lot and then very little until you eat again. Leafy vegetables again have about half the caloric density of tubers and roots (like potatoes and carrots) so they are great to fill up on but you have to find some that you like. I suggest going to the the green grocer and buying one of everything (they will hate you) and then go home and taste your way through everything raw. Take pictures of everything you like.

    Much cheaper than a gym is walking. If you walk everyday for 30-60 minutes (or more) you will get a lot of the same myokinins that people who exercise regularly do and it will help regulate appetite and improve fat burn. If you walk to work, then try to have your breakfast at work after your walk. Real food, not junk (cereal, anything from a fast food place).

    Yoghurt snack won't do much to make you feel full. Try replacing it with one of the fruit/veg things.

    Also 1500 is too low. You should aim for -10% to -20% of your maintenance calorie consumption. There's a limit to how fast your body can draw from fat reserves. But it can very quickly remove muscle to reduce your basal metabolic rate to better match what you are consuming.
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    Jan 15, 2011 10:58 PM GMT
    Beneim saidWhat i posted wasn't my current diet, its what i was gonna do... But if u say to eat calories, i already am... today i've had 6 glasses of coke, large quarte pounder meal. a bowl of lasagne. a bag of lollies and a glass of alchahol. So currently i have heaps of calories... and im just getting bigger! and bigger! outwards. So all i have to do currently is go the gym for an hour then?


    Sometimes I read your posts and wonder if you're even for real or just pulling our legs. 6 cokes? A quarter pounder?? A bowl of Lasagna??? A bag of lollies??? Surely you're not that dense? You deserve to be as big as a house if you eat that crap. Get on a healthy diet and cut out the sugar and crap or you'll just keep getting bigger and bigger and BIGGER
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    Jan 15, 2011 11:52 PM GMT
    Beneim saidWhat i posted wasn't my current diet, its what i was gonna do... But if u say to eat calories, i already am... today i've had 6 glasses of coke, large quarte pounder meal. a bowl of lasagne. a bag of lollies and a glass of alchahol. So currently i have heaps of calories... and im just getting bigger! and bigger! outwards. So all i have to do currently is go the gym for an hour then?


    6 glasses of Coke? That's sugar water!

    Your diet is awful.
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    Jan 15, 2011 11:54 PM GMT
    criduchat said
    Beneim saidOkies... So i'm currently 70 kgs, I'm 160 cm tall and that means i'm currently like 6-7 kilos overweight.

    However it's all so confusing, so this is my question. If i eat all of what I list below will i lose weight?



    Lunch (Lasagne) 550 Calories




    Ohhh Pasta is evil..Change this to high-protein, low-carb (like white meat chicken with veggies)

    Good luck ;)


    Pasta is NOT evil. What the fuck are you talking about? It's a nice slow carb that keeps your blood sugar stable for long periods of time. Much better than many things.

    Pasta is JUST FINE, as long as you don't drown it in butter (bad fat) and sauce (sugar that causes a spike in insulin levels and an insulin bounce after that).
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    Jan 16, 2011 12:00 AM GMT
    heybreaux saidFirst the coca cola - you need to get rid of that shit.

    Second, EAT FOOD NOT COCA COLA AND LOLLIES, because the reason you are craving 6 cans of coca cola (sugar) is because you are starving, combined with the massive amount of calories from coke is making you hold fat.

    Listen to what Chucky said. He knows this better than anyone I have seen or read. His points will become clear once you dig deeper and realize what he is saying. You may want to read some of his other posts for educational purposes if you don't understand.

    Stop bitching and take control of this issue, you only have to learn it once, but your understanding of nutrition is only sratching the surface and that is part of the reason you are in the situation you find yourself.



    The original poster needs to study up on the gyclemic index and insulin response.

    In short, the sugar from the Cokes is causing a rapid insulin response. Insulin is the shuttle hormone. When insulin is high, nutrition heads INTO the cells. That gets stores as fat is its not metabolized (the short version). Sugar causes a rapid rise in insulin that decays more slowly leaving the person eating it HUNGRIER than they were before. The insulin lowers your blood sugar TOO FAR. That's how fat folks get fat. They don't eat enough, but, what they do it is high in fat, and high in sugar, and too infrequent. So, they're always hungry, malnourished, have a slow metabolism, and get fatter as they go.

    Carb restricted diets are bad news for most because your body's preferred energy source is glucose (blood sugar). If you restrict carbs, you induce famine mode, slow your metabolism, and metabolize muscle to sustain yourself...BAD, BAD, and dumb.

    You have "fuel the furnace" and get active.

    Fat burns in the flame of carbohydrate.

    A diet with moderate to high protein, along with enough slow carbs, eaten in small meals, often...keeps your blood sugar stable, and your metabolism high, and allows you to exercise to stay lean.

    It's CRITICAL to eat to avoid that metabolic lag.

    The original poster needs to study the human machine, and its interactions, so that he doesn't continue to sabotage himself via ignorance.
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    Jan 16, 2011 12:05 AM GMT
    how much time can you seriously devote to training ? That is crucial data.