To all you guys old enough to of survied the 1970s & 80s. what were you doing:

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    Mar 27, 2008 1:47 PM GMT
    During the height of the Gay plague, when it first hit the media. I was working In a Bathhouse, One of the hot beds, for the speed of HIV, when so many where infected during the 1970's. When we were all still so naive, and herpes was the dirty word. Then come the 80's.

    We talked about it before it had a name and hit the Media. Then It hit the Media, and one got to see first hand, the chaos, destruction, the lies, and all the denial. People becoming drunks the lot. So what were you all doingicon_question.gif
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    Mar 27, 2008 6:26 PM GMT
    You mean affected, not effected. Get a dictionary, moron.
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    Mar 27, 2008 7:46 PM GMT
    JohnnyD saidYou mean affected, not effected. Get a dictionary, moron.
    No one meant infected, yet we were all effected by it. Australia, was not put on it's knees the way the USA was, as we were not so decimated, we had to had over the running of the community to women, as caretakers.icon_eek.gif
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    Pattison saidDuring the height of the Gay plague, when it first hit the media. I was working In a Bathhouse, One of the hot beds, for the speed of HIV, when so many where infected during the 1970's. When we were all still so naive, and herpes was the dirty word. Then come the 80's.

    We talked about it before it had a name and hit the Media. Then It hit the Media, and one got to see first hand, the chaos, destruction, the lies, and all the denial. People becoming drunks the lot. So what were you all doingicon_question.gif


    Pattison said[quote][cite]JohnnyD said[/cite]You mean affected, not effected. Get a dictionary, moron.
    No one meant infected, yet we were all effected by it. Australia, was not put on it's knees the way the USA was, as we were not so decimated, we had to had over the running of the community to women, as caretakers.icon_eek.gif[/quote]

    You know what? I'm just not going to touch this one.
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    Mar 27, 2008 7:57 PM GMT
    Well JonnyD U are as old as "I"icon_eek.gif So you were old enough to of been out, and having sex. Or were you hiding at home behind mum's apron, afraid to touch another man, in case you got the bug. Coz in the early days no-one knew, how it was passed on, and a lot of gay men become alcoholics, as they were to afraid too touch.

    I was in the middle of the eye of the storm. I got to see it all first hand. From my place of work. A Gay bathhouse. You do know, how these places work don't you.
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    Mar 27, 2008 8:13 PM GMT
    JohnnyD saidYou mean affected, not effected. Get a dictionary, moron.



    Very constructive. You missed a few of his other spelling mistakes, though; surely, since you weren't distracted with saying anyhing relevent or meaningful to the topic, you could have more *thoroughly* critiqued his spelling icon_confused.gif
  • jarhead5536

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    Mar 27, 2008 8:15 PM GMT
    Let's see. I barely missed the 70's, came out in 1981, and had a couple of years of truly slutty behavior, but for some reason managed to avoid contracting HIV. I was too scared to get tested, because I had engaged in all sorts of dangerous bad behavior and I was sure I had it and would die immediately. I didn't end up getting tested for the first time until 1990, during my entrance physical into the military. I felt like I had a second chance on life, and vowed to be eternally safe for all time.

    Then came my psycho boyfriend (who was pos), an ugly fight in NYC wherein I was beaten up and raped by him. This was in 1997, and I got the gift that keeps on giving.

    To answer the question, I didn't do anything in particular to avoid the disease in the beginning, I was just lucky enough to be living between the coasts, where the infection rate was slow to increase until much later on in the 80's...
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    Mar 27, 2008 8:16 PM GMT
    JohnnyD saidYou mean affected, not effected. Get a dictionary, moron.


    Rude much? Thanks for your insightful input to a serious question...
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    Mar 27, 2008 8:20 PM GMT
    kidcourageous1348 said[quote][cite]Pattison said[/cite]During the height of the Gay plague, when it first hit the media. I was working In a Bathhouse, One of the hot beds, for the speed of HIV, when so many where infected during the 1970's. When we were all still so naive, and herpes was the dirty word. Then come the 80's.

    We talked about it before it had a name and hit the Media. Then It hit the Media, and one got to see first hand, the chaos, destruction, the lies, and all the denial. People becoming drunks the lot. So what were you all doingicon_question.gif


    Pattison said[quote][cite]JohnnyD said[/cite]You mean affected, not effected. Get a dictionary, moron.
    No one meant infected, yet we were all effected by it. Australia, was not put on it's knees the way the USA was, as we were not so decimated, we had to had over the running of the community to women, as caretakers.icon_eek.gif[/quote]

    You know what? I'm just not going to touch this one.
    [/quote] You know What: I wish I had of had the same choice.icon_eek.gif This was a time that started out as a lot of fun, for One.icon_biggrin.gif I was very popular too.icon_wink.gif This was my introduction into the gay community. Then Aids come along, and the whole world changed. I did not go running home to the safety of bush, as so many gay men went running back to the safety of their closits. No I hang around for another 4 years. I stuck with and by the gay communityicon_eek.gif I got to see the Baths almost empty. Then come back, then it would hit the media again. Then the baths, would be empty again. Then they would fill again, people would come out, looking for sex again. This was my early manhood, in the gay community. The things one seen.icon_eek.gif I wish I had the choice, not to touch this one. But........ This was what was going on, the last time I was a member of the gay community. But I am alive and well. It would be wrong, for one to not talk about this time, as "tis is a part of our gay history! With the numbers on the rise of HIV infection, in the gay community. We do need to talk about it.... No one wanted to talk about it then, Not even Ronald Ragon.
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    Mar 27, 2008 8:24 PM GMT
    In 1981 I was in University and was just coming to accept my sexual orientation when I came across a news story about "the gay plague" in Time Magazine. It scared me shitless and reinforced my negative views about the so-called gay lifestyle that was portrayed in the media. I tried to suppress my sexual desires with near catastrophic results (depression).

    I did not have sex with a guy until 1986. Delaying the inevitable may have saved my life though. I know of at least one guy in my Psychology class who died of AIDS in the early 90's.
  • jarhead5536

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    Mar 27, 2008 8:35 PM GMT
    jbedwards,

    Lucky you. Those of us not living in New York or SF back then thought we were immune for some dumbass reason, so we were reckless. I don't have a single friend left alive that I knew before 1988. Stupid stupid stupid people...
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    Mar 27, 2008 8:45 PM GMT
    jarhead5536 saidjbedwards,

    Lucky you. Those of us not living in New York or SF back then thought we were immune for some dumbass reason, so we were reckless. I don't have a single friend left alive that I knew before 1988. Stupid stupid stupid people...


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    I lost a few people that I knew (including two roommates) but nothing like your losses. It is really hard to get across to young gays today what the 80's was like. The underlying sadness and fear that permeated the gay community.
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    Mar 27, 2008 9:09 PM GMT
    jarhead5536 saidLet's see. I barely missed the 70's, came out in 1981, and had a couple of years of truly slutty behavior, but for some reason managed to avoid contracting HIV. I was too scared to get tested, because I had engaged in all sorts of dangerous bad behavior and I was sure I had it and would die immediately. I didn't end up getting tested for the first time until 1990, during my entrance physical into the military. I felt like I had a second chance on life, and vowed to be eternally safe for all time.

    Then came my psycho boyfriend (who was pos), an ugly fight in NYC wherein I was beaten up and raped by him. This was in 1997, and I got the gift that keeps on giving.

    To answer the question, I didn't do anything in particular to avoid the disease in the beginning, I was just lucky enough to be living between the coasts, where the infection rate was slow to increase until much later on in the 80's...


    Jarhead, I don't know what to say. I wish I could give you the biggest hug right now.

    I grew up just outside of San Francisco - and my friends and I had our fun. God knows why I escaped becoming pos. Maybe I was too busy studying most of the time and didn't party all that much. I don't even know anyone who died - and those I know who contracted the virus are on meds and doing fine, for the most part.
  • RSportsguy

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    Mar 27, 2008 9:09 PM GMT
    I still was not 'out' to myself when I started to read about the 'gay' virus. I was scared and responded by going deeper into the closet. This is something that I am not very proud of and is hard to post about. icon_redface.gif
  • dhinkansas

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    Mar 27, 2008 9:37 PM GMT
    Late 70's high school, early 80's college. It was truly a different time. Now, looking back, I'm glad I was such a wallflower and didn't get out and about. No one knew what it was at the time and it was probably 1983 before I really remember it even making the news. There was no internet then, and there was virtually no spread of knowledge or information. All we saw on the news was the rail thin people dying of some mysterious plague. The attitude at the time because of it totally made gays a target, it's when gay bashing became prominent because of the mystery diesease. Now, it seems like it is kind of more acceptable to be gay, but at that time in the 80's, it was a total curse.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 27, 2008 10:02 PM GMT
    In the 1970's I was a child..... and in the 1980's I was first a sheltered kid... then a semi-sheltered college and grad student...

    Never an enlighted "straight man" during that period.
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    Mar 27, 2008 10:03 PM GMT
    JohnnyD saidYou mean affected, not effected. Get a dictionary, moron.



    Posts like this shouldn't even be allowed.
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    Mar 27, 2008 10:07 PM GMT
    I was married in 1982, to a lesbian. We had an arrangement; we each had our flings but because of the kids we would not bring anyone home. The arrangement ended (by prior agreement) when my wife met her life partner, Linda.

    Because we had to be discreet, neither of us was very promiscuous. I entered into certain relationships but had no "slut" phase until after the marriage ended, and by then I knew enough to be safe. I am sure that fact saved my life. I lost some friends and acquaintances, roughly forty, which is not nearly as many as some others.
  • jarhead5536

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    Mar 27, 2008 10:28 PM GMT
    Jockbod,

    Thanks, I'm really OK now. I wis still active duty when this happened, and I have to say, military medicine pretty much sucks 90% of the time, but they do the big stuff really well. I had to go to a two week inpatient thing in Bethesda, where we had obscene amounts of therapy, because back then conventional wisdom was that we were all about to die. I learned that I would never have any peace in my life until I let go of my anger, which was hard, but I did. I feel sorry for the bastard now, if he's still alive.

    Anyhoo, ten plus years on, no symptoms, no drugs. I'm a freak of nature, in a good way....

    BTW, nice to finally see your face!
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    Mar 27, 2008 10:36 PM GMT
    I start having sex at 14 at my home town in 1979. AIDS didnt appear in my country until late 80's. I start school in the US in 1983. I been with a lot of guys (probably hundreds) during my slutty and sex craze early twenties. I was sexually abuse at 19 and the experience is so painful that I simply refuse to engage in any form of anal sex. (condom or without)

    I really think, that save me from dying of AIDS. It a blessing in disguise. All those time , having sex with me mean , condomless oral, body licking, rubbing between the leg, mutual masturbation , you know anything minus the anal.

    Only after I am 42 ,with more knowledge in safe sex I start engaging in anal sex. I guess that why I am still alive today.
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    Mar 28, 2008 2:42 AM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidIn the 1970's I was a child..... and in the 1980's I was first a sheltered kid... then a semi-sheltered college and grad student...

    Never an enlightened "straight man" during that period.
    Well In 1980. I was farming. I had worked for a year without pay, dew to drought. This drought, forced me off the land. I had to move to the City to get a job. While I was looking for a job. A mate told me he could get me one, if I wanted to work.

    So not being afraid, to work. I took it on. This really was my introduction into the gay community. I had not really started to do bars or anything. Did not know where to go.icon_eek.gif

    So here I was this young kid from the bush, working in the Baths, It was like being a celebrity, in the gay community.

    We had free blood test done then, at the baths. A gay guy from the VD. clinic, would come in. Then one day he told us something was going on in America. Lots of gay men in NY. & SF. were rocking up to hospitals, and just dying, and no-one wants to talk about it. No-one was talking about it here, or know anything. It was only because of my job. I was to get this information.

    Since one has been sucking cock since 5 One has never considered ones- self to be a "straight Man". But before this time, and after. I have lived a Str8 life, in the str8 community. I have always been a fag, but not in your face about it.

    Oh. I am the first Generation, in my line, here in Oz. Not to live my whole life, on the land! before this we were large land owners in Switzerland.
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    Mar 28, 2008 2:52 AM GMT
    HndsmKansan said[quote][cite]JohnnyD said[/cite]You mean affected, not effected. Get a dictionary, moron.



    Posts like this shouldn't even be allowed.[/quote]for this I disagree. Freedom of speech. We are the ones that knew life before AIDS, and after. It is our history! All these kids that come her, whom have grown, up with the word HIV, and AIDES. They are becoming complacent, and are in as much danger, as us guys, whom were having sex in the 1970s. But we knew no better. I have been working on my BIO, now for sometime. I know, if it ever become public. This period, will ruffle some feather, and create a wee bit of out rage.

    Expressly when I talk about men knowing they had HIV. But was not going to deny their dick any pleasure, nor inform the person, they were having a moment with, of this fact.

    Would I date a person whom is HIV. If I was in love. Have I before, yes.
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    Mar 28, 2008 2:59 AM GMT
    imperator said[quote][cite]JohnnyD said[/cite]You mean affected, not effected. Get a dictionary, moron.



    Very constructive. You missed a few of his other spelling mistakes, though; surely, since you weren't distracted with saying anything relevant or meaningful to the topic, you could have more *thoroughly* critiqued his spelling icon_confused.gif[/quote]Oh. I know my spelling is shiticon_cool.gif Being a person of the land. Education, was not an Issue for family. So long as I knew how to work the land, and this I do.

    But I also work with Doctors, whom spelling is shit too.icon_eek.gif
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    Mar 28, 2008 3:03 AM GMT
    zakariahzol saidI start having sex at 14 at my home town in 1979. AIDS didnt appear in my country until late 80's. I start school in the US in 1983. I been with a lot of guys (probably hundreds) during my slutty and sex craze early twenties. I was sexually abuse at 19 and the experience is so painful that I simply refuse to engage in any form of anal sex. (condom or without)

    I really think, that save me from dying of AIDS. It a blessing in disguise. All those time , having sex with me mean , condomless oral, body licking, rubbing between the leg, mutual masturbation , you know anything minus the anal.

    Only after I am 42 ,with more knowledge in safe sex I start engaging in anal sex. I guess that why I am still alive today.
    Tanks matey. But only 100s, in 20s. only 100s What about a few 1000. in 20's. I had a good time. People liked me. I am still HIV-
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    Mar 28, 2008 3:16 AM GMT
    Pattison said[quote][cite]HndsmKansan said[/cite][quote][cite]JohnnyD said[/cite]You mean affected, not effected. Get a dictionary, moron.



    Posts like this shouldn't even be allowed.[/quote]for this I disagree. Freedom of speech.[/quote]



    I think Freedom of Speech is an important consideration and should be respected. The point is.. when one is referred to as "a Moron" I consider it
    abusing speech... and shouldn't be tolerated. This is a reasonable site.

    If Freedom of Speech, "abused style" was allowed, nobody would be kicked off this site...... right Chucky???