Food weight loss questions!?!?!?!? Please help!

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    Jan 19, 2011 6:47 AM GMT
    Okies, so i'm starting to understand to lose weight properly you truly need to eat nutritionally and not calorie count, which i've started doing. So I figured i'd eat like a caveman... One problem. I'M SO FUCKING HUNGRY I FEEL LIKE PASSING OUT!

    I'm going for like 2 hour walks every day, which I have no choice because my work is two hours away so i'm always walking that far anyway.

    Okies, so yesterday i was trying to think what I could eat. Someone said lean meat. So i had grilled steak, then i got told not to eat steak because it takes too long to digest...

    So questions:

    What are lean meats?

    If I boil or roast chicken, what healthy flavourings can i have? because all the ones from the supermarket have like 400 calories in it per satchey packet?

    What can i have that is processed? I got told I can eat yogurt, which is processed. So what else is there?

    I loved mashed poatoes with mint sauce, but i got told not to eat potatoes because they're bad for losing weight because they don't digest.

    What are carbs?

    Also I'm confused about wheat stuff... For instance, i love pasta! But i got told no cuz its too processed. But what about brown pasta? Also bread, I got told no white bread... But can I have any bread? I've heard wholemeal is healthy... But then there's rye... Wholegrain... What can i eat?

    Any other tips would be warmly welcome... Thank you icon_smile.gif And please, I'm like starving to death here...!
  • Webster666

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    Jan 19, 2011 7:01 AM GMT
    Cut out potato chips, cookies, candy, and all other types of snacks and desserts.
    Cut out all sodas.

    That's it.

    You can eat everything else.
    Just don't stuff yourself.
    Eat a small to medium sized portion.
    If you're hungry a couple hours later, eat again.

    Exercise is more important than what you eat or don't eat.
    Your daily walk sounds great. But, walk FAST.

    DON'T STARVE YOURSELF.

    Look at my picture.
    I eat absolutely anything I want.
    I know what I'm talking about.
    Not bragging. Just sayin'.
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    Jan 19, 2011 7:06 AM GMT
    What about pastas and breads? What type, if any at all do I eat?

    And so that means mashed potatoes and steak are all alright then?
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    Jan 19, 2011 12:57 PM GMT
    Dont starve yourself! Loosing weight will take time. If you are strict with yourself you might loose 8kg in 8 weeks, but it might take longer.

    Google 'lean meat'! But in a nutshell, turkey, chicken and red meat with little to no fat.

    Complex carbs, (the good carbs) take longer for the body to digest, are most commonly found in vegetables (cellulose), whole grain breads and pasta, brown rice, and legumes. Foods with unrefined grains, such as brown rice, retain complex carbs, unlike refined grains, such as white rice. This is because the refining process removes some of the grain’s fiber and nutrients. Eating a serving of whole grain cereal such as oatmeal will fill you up and give you longer lasting energy than a bowl of sugary cereal due to the way the body processes and uses the carbohydrates.

    We use Pataks curry paste on chicken breasts then BBQ them, cut em up and have with salad. When Im lazy I'll grab a BBQ chicken and a packet of precooked brown rice and have it for lunch over a few days, soy sauce is a reasonable seasoning, go easy though, it's high in salt. Doritos salsa is pretty much fat free and not bad on chicken.

    To answer your question, Bread and pasta is fine in moderation as Webster666 said. If you really want to count calories and portions etc check out www.dietclub.com.au they allow you to search the online db for free.

    Hope this helps.
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    Jan 19, 2011 1:33 PM GMT
    If you're going to eat like a caveman, eat the steak but forget all the bullshit about eating lean meat that has been trimmed of all its fat. It's the combination of protein plus fat that keeps the appetite sated for hours on end. So, go ahead, eat the lean steak, but have some butter or Bearnaise sauce with it. Better yet, have a nice fatty ribeye.

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    Jan 19, 2011 2:35 PM GMT
    Beneim saidSo i had grilled steak, then i got told not to eat steak because it takes too long to digest...

    One problem. I'M SO FUCKING HUNGRY I FEEL LIKE PASSING OUT!


    You NEED to eat foods that 'takes too long to digest.' That's how you keep from being hungry all the time.

    Stick with meats, and by that I mean unprocessed meats, and complex carbs, like oatmeal (especially oatmeal every morning), beans and whole wheat or whole grain breads and pastas. (Do an internet search for the effects of peanut butter and oatmeal on weight loss.) As far as veggies, stick with low carb veggies. Eat sweet potatos instead of white potatos. If you limit carbs you will lose weight faster.

    Avoid simple carbs and sugars.
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    Jan 19, 2011 2:39 PM GMT
    So any unprocessed meat is okay? And what about pasta? like any pasta??? It doesn't have to be brown?
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    Jan 19, 2011 2:48 PM GMT
    Well it may not even be a question of what to eat. How much exercise are you doing each day? A 2 hour walk doesn't burn that many calories compared to say, a 1 hour jog. I would say probably try jogging around half an hour around 3 times a week. icon_smile.gif

    P.S. Never starve yourself! I'd rather be overweight than starve myself any day. What you should do is eat less gradually -- if the weight loss is too quick then your body will just convert that to fat instead. It takes 3500 calories less than what you're already eating to lose weight. It sounds like a lot but remember this can be over a week, a month or a year! Say if you wanted to lose a pound in 2 weeks, you would just need to eat 250 calories less each day and that's without doing any exercise! if you do exercise then it will help even more.

    Remember NOT to overeat once you've finished exercising too -- that's a mistake a lot of people make! Also be sure to check up your body type and how much your body actually requires each day. There are sites that can you tell you that.

    Good luck!
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    Jan 19, 2011 2:52 PM GMT
    Beneim saidSo any unprocessed meat is okay?


    Fish, poultry, beef, etc. You are a man. Men's bodies need more protein to function. Eating fat doesn't make you fat. Eating simple carbs, especially refined carbs makes you fat.

    Beneim said
    And what about pasta? like any pasta??? It doesn't have to be brown?


    Whole wheat or whole grain pasta IS brown, generally. Turn to beans (especially lentils) instead of pasta or stick with whole grain pastas. Like oatmeal, beans are complex carbs, so keep you feeling full longer. Read the book "Good Calories, Bad Calories,' by Gary Taubes or pick up a copy of the Atkins diet at a thrift store for a dollar. You can read this article to get a start on these concepts:

    http://articles.latimes.com/2010/dec/20/health/la-he-carbs-20101220

    Oatmeal is a miracle food for weight loss, not to mention regulating blood cholestrol levels:

    http://www.suite101.com/content/oatmeal-for-breakfast-promotes-weight-loss-a210597

    Shop only the edges of the grocery store - meats, dairy, veggies, etc.
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    Jan 19, 2011 2:55 PM GMT
    What about the meat for the pasta thou? It's processed like mince... so how would i make it? is there a good pasta sauce?
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    Jan 19, 2011 3:33 PM GMT
    Beneim saidWhat about the meat for the pasta thou? It's processed like mince... so how would i make it? is there a good pasta sauce?


    Googling 'low carb pasta recipe,' yielded the following:

    http://www.lowcarb-recipes.net/recipes/Main-Dish/Pasta/

    Google is your friend.
  • benarw

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    Jan 19, 2011 3:50 PM GMT
    Buy the book "The Abs Diet". Read it. Follow the instructions on healthy eating habits. It seems like you need something really structured in order to understand. "The Abs Diet" is good because it's not a loose weight quick scheme. It offers a foundations of healthy eating you can use in day to day life. So buy the book.

    PS: Not to sound rude, but are you really as dim as you come across? Seriously, people have offered you simple, helpful advice on clean eating and none of it seems to register. You need to find your focus and make sure you're losing weight for you, and not for anyone else's benefit.

    And lastly, good luck on your weightloss journey! Good things are to come if you let them.
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    Jan 19, 2011 3:53 PM GMT
    benarw said
    PS: Not to sound rude, but are you really as dim as you come across? Seriously, people have offered you simple, helpful advice on clean eating and none of it seems to register.


    Give the kid a break. He's only 19. He'll figure it out.
  • delthespaz

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    Jan 19, 2011 4:16 PM GMT
    I agree with this. Eat the meat with the fat. If you eat lean meats, add fats from other foods like olive oil, avocado, nuts. It'll keep you fuller.

    I keep a jar full of roasted unsalted nuts at my desk for snacking during the day.

    Personally, I eat a modified Paleo diet and will eat things supposedly not allowed by strict cavemen like dairy, legumes, and grains. When I do, I make sure to not go overboard.

    At the end of the day, you shouldn't sweat the small stuff too much. It'll drive you nuts. Also it's easy to get overwhelmed with all the conflicting advice.

    http://paleodietlifestyle.com/category/paleo-diet-articles/

    http://www.modernpaleo.com/principles.html

    paradox saidIf you're going to eat like a caveman, eat the steak but forget all the bullshit about eating lean meat that has been trimmed of all its fat. It's the combination of protein plus fat that keeps the appetite sated for hours on end. So, go ahead, eat the lean steak, but have some butter or Bearnaise sauce with it. Better yet, have a nice fatty ribeye.

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    Jan 19, 2011 9:37 PM GMT
    Beneim saidWhat about the meat for the pasta thou? It's processed like mince... so how would i make it? is there a good pasta sauce?


    An occasional spagetti bolognese is not going to hurt you, but in moderation, no more than once per week. I'd also be eating this before a run or workout or whatever exercise you're doing. Mince isn't so bad, if you get it from the butcher, or better yet, if you can afford it, get him to mince a steak for you.

    You seem to want to put sauce on everything? Might be the issue icon_smile.gif But a neapolitan or marinara is the way to go, much like salsa's, simple tomato base. Keep away from the creamy ones. I guess you could look into the 'Carnation Lite milk' stuff but it's full of processed crap (i wouldn't touch it)
  • ohioguy12

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    Jan 21, 2011 9:17 PM GMT
    Webster666 said walk FAST.



    I always heard that it doesn't matter how fast you go, you will burn the same amount of calories, is that correct?
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    Jan 29, 2011 2:36 PM GMT
    fat is the biggest problem for everyone.now a days it is growing day by day.and the diseases is also growing day by day.thats why everybody wanna flatter body.they do not wanna look kike humpty dumpty.that is nice think to look flatter because fat body have some disadvantage like fat man do not able to do work long time they get tired soon and they need to take rest.so i suggest to all who have a unfit body do excercise and reduce belly fat.because it look so ugly in our body.once you reduce it you will get a perfect body.
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    Feb 05, 2011 11:07 AM GMT
    food is the most important thing that we have need in our life.it gave energy to us that we can do jobs and also if we eat fresh food then it will mae us fit and fit and help us to reduce stomach fat.once you lose stomach fat then you will be get a perfect body.so food is very important for us.
  • LikeTheBank

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    Feb 07, 2011 12:16 AM GMT
    Meats and Veggies should be your staples. You can have pastas, but pastas have more calories than veggies and meats do. Furthermore Veggies and Meats have more nutrients and other stuff you need. Go ahead and make your pasta but there should be a ton of veggies and meat in there.

    As for foods that take longer to digest, it's best have foods that take longer to digest. Complex carbs like veggies and proteins take a long time for your body to process. Simple carbs like pastas and sugars are processed quite fast.

    Also, meat should be as processed as little as possible. Even chicken breasts now are being processed and are injected with saltwater.

    Everyone has their own diet philosophy, but my philosophy includes calorie counting, so don't necessarily discount doing so as long as you get the correct ratio of different food groups.
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    Feb 07, 2011 9:36 AM GMT
    it is look that you have planning to lose weight if yes then it is true that food is fresh food then we able to lose weight.foods like eggs are help us to get rid belly fat.it can reduce our belly fat and makes us fit and fine.
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    Feb 08, 2011 10:38 AM GMT
    food help is to reduce our fat.that is true.food like egg is help us to reduce belly and the other food Oatmeal is also help us to reduce belly fat.so eat these foods to reduce belly fat.
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    Feb 08, 2011 11:26 AM GMT
    benarw saidBuy the book "The Abs Diet". Read it. Follow the instructions on healthy eating habits. It seems like you need something really structured in order to understand. "The Abs Diet" is good because it's not a loose weight quick scheme. It offers a foundations of healthy eating you can use in day to day life. So buy the book.


    This is great advice. The Abs Diet was recommended by my first trainer, and following that plan combined with regular exercise I've lost over 140lbs.

    You have a great resource here on RJ, too. Be sure to check out the following:

    http://www.realjock.com/nutrition/1025

    http://www.realjock.com/article/1569

    Good luck!
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    Feb 10, 2011 10:43 AM GMT
    When it comes to how to losing weight and getting tight abdominals many people are not bothered about seeking a natural way to lose belly fat. Most will do anything to remove unsightly fat, from surgery to slimming pills.and its very harmful to their health so i prefered workout to do the thing.and i also suggest you to be stay away from this.
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    Feb 28, 2011 9:14 AM GMT
    You are cut out potato chips, candy,and all other types of snacks, Eat only healthy foods like mostly green vegetables, fruits, boiled egg, fish, chicken etc........I daily eat in breakfast two boiled eggs some salad and milk or juice so you can try this tip are helping lose your belly fat.