How would you view an organization that...

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    Jan 20, 2011 1:31 AM GMT
    claims to have rhe following values:

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    The _______ is a ... group that supports anti-communism , limited government , a Constitutional Republic and personal freedom. 

    ...It is anti- totalitarian , particularly anti-socialist and anti-communist . It seeks to limit the powers of government and defends the original intention of the U.S. Constitution, which it sees as based on Christian principles. It opposes collectivism, including wealth redistribution, economic interventionism, socialism, communism, and fascism.
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    Is it:

    1. a group in the mainstream of American politics (roughly center)

    2. moderately right wing/conservative (GOP Members might be numbered as members of this group)

    3. libertarian

    4. radical right/far right fringe

    5. a right wing terrorist organization

    This group has been moderately active in US politics for quite some time.

    Double bonus if you know who this group is.
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    Jan 20, 2011 1:32 AM GMT
    the Boy Scouts
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    Jan 20, 2011 1:41 AM GMT
    yourname2000 saidI'm gonna guess...

    4. radical right/far right fringe

    And it sounds to me like the tea-party.


    They pre-date the Tea Party (the recent manifestation of it to be certain) by quite a few years icon_smile.gif )
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    Jan 20, 2011 1:43 AM GMT
    "defends the original intention of the U.S. Constitution, which it sees as based on Christian principles."
    And you lost me there.
    Besides, variations in your definitions of the various -isms and selective reading of the Constitution could make answers 1-5 all fit.
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    Jan 20, 2011 1:44 AM GMT
    Ah, the magic of Google:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society
    Wikipedia defines them to be answer 4.
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    Jan 20, 2011 1:59 AM GMT
    Bingo, you win. ;)

    Aside from the Christian thing (which in itself is open to wide interpretation)... they seem pretty on the square, if you have no preconceived notions about what the JBS is about.

    I find it a tad odd that Wiki refers to them as a "radical right wing group"... beyond some conspiracy theory feeding that they were involved with in the 1950s, they seem pretty tame in modern times.
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    Jan 20, 2011 2:15 AM GMT
    alphatrigger saidBingo, you win. ;)

    Aside from the Christian thing (which in itself is open to wide interpretation)... they seem pretty on the square, if you have no preconceived notions about what the JBS is about.

    I find it a tad odd that Wiki refers to them as a "radical right wing group"... beyond some conspiracy theory feeding that they were involved with in the 1950s, they seem pretty tame in modern times.


    They're anti-choice and anti-gay which in a country that favors choice by a majority and gay marriage by more than 50% makes them a radical right wing group.
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    Jan 20, 2011 2:22 AM GMT
    Some interesting contradictions:
    Fred Koch, founder of Koch Industries was a founder. (anti-globalization?)
    They opposed NAFTA and other free trade agreements. (anti-economic interventionalism?)
    Anti-communist but yet wants to bring the troops back.
    And yes, Eisenhower was a crypto-communist to them. icon_razz.gif
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    Jan 20, 2011 2:25 AM GMT
    The Constitution is, thankfully, something that can be amended - I support it as the highest power - the law of our land.

    Not sure why anyone would want to overturn the 13th/14th/16th amendments; the 17th I could see why folks might want to revert back to Senators being chosen by the state legislatures; it might help end the "Senators for Life" we have seen in the likes of Kennedy, Byrd, etc.

    Now as to some of the interpretations that the courts have taken with the other amendments, I'll hold my reservations on some accounts... but by and large, as far as works of frail humans go who are prone to error, it is an enviable work that has stood the test of time.

    As for the JBS, insofar as they support the Constitution, and desire to protect our Republic from creeping socialism *and* fascism, promote individual liberty, and preserve (what is left) of our national sovereignty from being subsumed by global/supranational socialism... I think they have their *ideals* in the right spot.