One Man & One Woman Marriage amendment introduced in Iowa House

  • metta

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    Jan 20, 2011 8:29 PM GMT
    One Man & One Woman Marriage amendment introduced in Iowa House

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    The amendment would invalidate the Iowa Supreme Court’s unanimous 2009 ruling that legalized same-sex marriage.
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    http://iowaindependent.com/50992/marriage-amendment-introduced-in-iowa-house
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    Jan 20, 2011 9:13 PM GMT
    Call it what it is: Bigotry


    http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2011/01/20/call-it-what-it-is-bigotry/
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    Jan 20, 2011 10:44 PM GMT
    56 of 60 Republicans signed on as co-sponsors.

    0 Democrats.

    ZERO.

    mocktwinkie? SoCal? How's that "changing the party from within" thing workin' out for ya?
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    Jesus Christ...what will it take to open your eyes?
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    Jan 20, 2011 10:50 PM GMT
    Dunno the particulars of how Iowa amends it's constitution... but it is sad that folks still find this relevant to containing runaway taxes and spending.

    /facepalm

    Still, it may be worth considering that as a vastly smaller minority, passing marriage equalityight not rank as high as some other issues facing state governments.

    I do wish that the Iowa GOP could have done just that and left the court decision remain.
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    Jan 20, 2011 10:55 PM GMT
    alphatrigger said
    Still, it may be worth considering that as a vastly smaller minority, passing marriage equalityight not rank as high as some other issues facing state governments.


    Yeah, but passing marriage inequality seems to rank very high as some other issues facing Iowa. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Oh, and it's not just marriage equality:
    OPThe legislation goes beyond just banning same-sex marriage. It would also ban civil unions, domestic partnerships and any other legal recognition of same-sex couples.


    And when the vote comes, it'll be at least 57 Republicans:
    OPCownie told The Des Moines Register’s Jason Clayworth that he will vote in favor of the amendment, but didn’t sign on as co-sponsor at the request of some constituents in his district.
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    Jan 20, 2011 11:00 PM GMT
    OtterJoq said56 of 60 Republicans signed on as co-sponsors.

    0 Democrats.




    Not at all surprised by these numbers.
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    Jan 20, 2011 11:02 PM GMT
    2nd postThe lead House sponsor of the amendment is Dwayne Alons, the same yo-yo who once said “We shouldn’t be as concerned, actually, about warming, especially now that we have modern refrigeration and air conditioning.”


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    Jan 20, 2011 11:05 PM GMT
    alphatrigger saidStill, it may be worth considering that as a vastly smaller minority, passing marriage equalityight not rank as high as some other issues facing state governments.




    Yeah, human rights should be a low priority.
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    Jan 20, 2011 11:07 PM GMT
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    OtterJoq said56 of 60 Republicans signed on as co-sponsors.

    0 Democrats.




    Not at all surprised by these numbers.


    I am. Who knew there were four sentient Republicans in Iowa?
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    Jan 20, 2011 11:07 PM GMT
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    alphatrigger saidStill, it may be worth considering that as a vastly smaller minority, passing marriage equalityight not rank as high as some other issues facing state governments.




    Yeah, human rights should be a low priority.


    They are for the GOP.
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    Jan 20, 2011 11:09 PM GMT
    Both my parents are even more liberal than I am. One day the topic of gay marriage came up on a visit to my 86 year old mom who suffered a sever stroke 10 years ago. She can not make a coherent sentences but she reads like a scholar and she can say yes and no. So I told them in a mild rant that what pisses me off about these amendments has nothing to do with whether I will enjoy such a right one day. Chances are I won't. What pisses me off is how it is used as a get out the bigot vote. Put it on the ballots and the bigots will come in droves to vote for all the right wing candidates! At that my mom passionately yells while leaning over her cane "YES"! "YES"! My dad just sat there smiling.
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    Jan 20, 2011 11:17 PM GMT
    friendormate saidBoth my parents are even more liberal than I am. One day the topic of gay marriage came up on a visit to my 86 year old mom who suffered a sever stroke 10 years ago. She can not make a coherent sentences but she reads like a scholar and she can say yes and no. So I told them in a mild rant that what pisses me off about these amendments has nothing to do with whether I will enjoy such a right one day. Chances are I won't. What pisses me off is how it is used as a get out the bigot vote. Put it on the ballots and the bigots will come in droves to vote for all the right wing candidates! At that my mom passionately yells while leaning over her cane "YES"! "YES"! My dad just sat there smiling.


    It's the logical extension of the Republican's odious "Southern Strategy." And sadly, some here tacitly endorse these tactics by their silence. Dollars over People, after all.
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    Jan 20, 2011 11:29 PM GMT
    alphatrigger saidDunno the particulars of how Iowa amends it's constitution... but it is sad that folks still find this relevant to containing runaway taxes and spending.

    You'll have to talk to your gop cohorts about that.
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    Jan 20, 2011 11:32 PM GMT
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    alphatrigger saidDunno the particulars of how Iowa amends it's constitution... but it is sad that folks still find this relevant to containing runaway taxes and spending.

    You'll have to talk to your gop cohorts about that.


    Use small words when you do, m'kay? Pugs today aren't the brightest bulbs on the tree, if you catch my drift.
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    Jan 20, 2011 11:32 PM GMT
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    alphatrigger saidDunno the particulars of how Iowa amends it's constitution... but it is sad that folks still find this relevant to containing runaway taxes and spending.

    You'll have to talk to your gop cohorts about that.


    It's totally relevant. No gay civil unions or other legal recognition means more taxes from "single" gay people just living under one roof by chance. Taxes, man!icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 20, 2011 11:36 PM GMT
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    TropicalMark said
    alphatrigger saidDunno the particulars of how Iowa amends it's constitution... but it is sad that folks still find this relevant to containing runaway taxes and spending.

    You'll have to talk to your gop cohorts about that.


    It's totally relevant. No gay civil unions or other legal recognition means more taxes from "single" gay people just living under one roof by chance. Taxes, man!icon_lol.gif
    Ah.. lets use discrimination for taxation! LOL a little slimy don't ya think?
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    Jan 20, 2011 11:39 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    q1w2e3 said
    TropicalMark said
    alphatrigger saidDunno the particulars of how Iowa amends it's constitution... but it is sad that folks still find this relevant to containing runaway taxes and spending.

    You'll have to talk to your gop cohorts about that.


    It's totally relevant. No gay civil unions or other legal recognition means more taxes from "single" gay people just living under one roof by chance. Taxes, man!icon_lol.gif
    Ah.. lets use discrimination for taxation! LOL a little slimy don't ya think?

    Slimy is as slimy does.
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    Jan 20, 2011 11:42 PM GMT
    OK, the extra taxes from the thousands of gay civil unions just paid for less than 1 day of electricity for the Iowa Capitol. icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 20, 2011 11:47 PM GMT
    IMHO marriage or singleness should not be a factor in taxation. Head of household status with dependents should be.

    Of course... if I had my druthers, there would be only be a flat 10% income tax across the board for earners over $100k and 5% for earners over $25k (no tax below $25k).

    With very few if any deductions or special credits.
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    Jan 21, 2011 12:26 AM GMT
    I think the problem here is that the Iowa GOP has come under control by the narrow-minded, bible thumping screwballs from the South who have moved into Iowa so they could "save it" for their so-called "God". With all the economic and financial problems that Iowa along with all other states are facing, you would think that some of these GOP right wingers would just get over it and focus on the more serious problems.
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    Jan 21, 2011 1:04 AM GMT
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    friendormate saidBoth my parents are even more liberal than I am. One day the topic of gay marriage came up on a visit to my 86 year old mom who suffered a sever stroke 10 years ago. She can not make a coherent sentences but she reads like a scholar and she can say yes and no. So I told them in a mild rant that what pisses me off about these amendments has nothing to do with whether I will enjoy such a right one day. Chances are I won't. What pisses me off is how it is used as a get out the bigot vote. Put it on the ballots and the bigots will come in droves to vote for all the right wing candidates! At that my mom passionately yells while leaning over her cane "YES"! "YES"! My dad just sat there smiling.


    It's the logical extension of the Republican's odious "Southern Strategy." And sadly, some here tacitly endorse these tactics by their silence. Dollars over People, after all.


    This is true and I'm hoping it will backfire in the long run. Three of the four most populated southern states FL, NC, and VA went to Obama. Obama received more white vote in NC than did Kerry. Elizabeth Dole who held the infamous Jessie Helms seat lost to a democrat despite her efforts to smear Hagan for taking money from "godless" people. That ad clearly backfired. NC ranked 3rd in in-state migration last year after DC and Oregon. It has passed NJ in population. While the rural areas remain extremely red, the major urban areas, which have benefited from the migration have gone blue. There are two openly gay mayors in the state. Mecklenburg (Charlotte's county) went blue when it voted for Kerry and has been blue ever since. Imagine that, red neck Charlotte, the home of NASCAR and PTL club has gone blue.

    While it is far from a liberal state the trend is clear. A black female friend of mine in NC put it best. We have to wait for all the old racists to die off. When that happens the southern strategy may still work in the old south but not the highly populated new south. That day can't come fast enough.

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    OtterJoq said
    friendormate saidBoth my parents are even more liberal than I am. One day the topic of gay marriage came up on a visit to my 86 year old mom who suffered a sever stroke 10 years ago. She can not make a coherent sentences but she reads like a scholar and she can say yes and no. So I told them in a mild rant that what pisses me off about these amendments has nothing to do with whether I will enjoy such a right one day. Chances are I won't. What pisses me off is how it is used as a get out the bigot vote. Put it on the ballots and the bigots will come in droves to vote for all the right wing candidates! At that my mom passionately yells while leaning over her cane "YES"! "YES"! My dad just sat there smiling.


    It's the logical extension of the Republican's odious "Southern Strategy." And sadly, some here tacitly endorse these tactics by their silence. Dollars over People, after all.


    This is true and I'm hoping it will backfire in the long run. Three of the four most populated southern states FL, NC, and VA went to Obama. Obama received more white vote in NC than did Kerry. Elizabeth Dole who held the infamous Jessie Helms seat lost to a democrat despite her efforts to smear Hagan for taking money from "godless" people. That ad clearly backfired. NC ranked 3rd in in-state migration last year after DC and Oregon. It has passed NJ in population. While the rural areas remain extremely red, the major urban areas, which have benefited from the migration have gone blue. There are two openly gay mayors in the state. Mecklenburg (Charlotte's county) went blue when it voted for Kerry and has been blue ever since. Imagine that, red neck Charlotte, the home of NASCAR and PTL club has gone blue.

    While it is far from a liberal state the trend is clear. A black female friend of mine in NC put it best. We have to wait for all the old racists to die off. When that happens the southern strategy may still work in the old south but not the highly populated new south. That day can't come fast enough.



    Just flew through CLT mere hours ago! Weird...
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    Jan 21, 2011 6:57 AM GMT
    Go for Civil Unions! It has nothing to do with religion, or the heterosexual institution of marriage, and thats all they want to preserve.

    I as a pure homosexual; a real gay. Behold no issues with this.
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    Jan 21, 2011 7:01 AM GMT
    Pattison, READ:

    " The legislation goes beyond just banning same-sex marriage. It would also ban civil unions, domestic partnerships and any other legal recognition of same-sex couples."
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    Jan 21, 2011 7:16 AM GMT
    I'd be really surprised if that amendment passed with that verbiage... and I wonder if Iowa falls under the 9th Circuit court - the one that is likely to uphold the overturning of Prop 8?