The latest Gay Teen Suicide happened at my HS.

  • yogadudeSEATT...

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    Jan 21, 2011 8:11 PM GMT
    It's time our society pulled its head out of its organized religion run ass and woke up to the realities of the 21st century. Please.
    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/yet-another-teen-suicide-this-week-anti-gay-bullying-blamed/news/2011/01/21/16889
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    Jan 21, 2011 10:34 PM GMT
    I thought I'd never say this, but the govt really needs to outlaw the entire bible, since that's what these bullies are using as an excuse for their shitty behavior.
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    Jan 21, 2011 10:44 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidI thought I'd never say this, but the govt really needs to outlaw the entire bible, since that's what these bullies are using as an excuse for their shitty behavior.
    Ahaha I wih religion were illegal.
  • yogadudeSEATT...

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    Jan 21, 2011 10:51 PM GMT
    Our culture's kids are the canary in the coal mine. There is something very wrong with this country.
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    Jan 21, 2011 11:13 PM GMT
    What pisses me off also is that the whole "gay teen suicide" issue has been addressed SO much lately... that even in spite of that, teens STILL persist with the attacks... what the fuck, man??? This sort of thing makes me wanna be a counsilor and help kids find strength. I fucken hate those shithead bullies.

    I copped a lot back in highschool too, and I think as a result I conditioned myself to behave in a way that still to this day surprises people when they find out I am actually not straight.

    I dont know how much of this actually has to do with the bible, but some fucking book, written by a bunch of noobs hundreds and hundreds of years ago has ultimately been the catalyst for what it tries to prevent. It is completely outdated. If it cant be outlawed, why not rewritten?
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    Jan 21, 2011 11:54 PM GMT
    The religious conditioning partnered with bad parenting are the true culprits behind these devastating outcomes. Public opinion is really due for a 21st century overhaul.
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    Jan 22, 2011 12:05 AM GMT
    cosmicjewboy saidIt's time our society pulled its head out of its organized religion run ass and woke up to the realities of the 21st century. Please.


    I'm sorry, but with all the publicity with "It gets better" and the Trevor Project Hotline, practically unavoidable in the mass media (such as Facebook, which he was on!), if this kid did not call, or seek help on his own, then nothing would have helped him. He wanted to die.

    It wasn't religion that caused his death, it was himself. The responsibility was his ultimately, and he chose to take his own life. He could have chosen how he should have dealt with the bullying.

    If anyone else is to blame, I blame the parents, who failed in teaching their child how to manage his emotions, how to pull oneself from a difficult place and give oneself leverage in moving ahead with power and dignity. These things you just can't "let" the world teach your child. As a parent, you must be proactive in teaching and maturing your kids, or you've failed as a parent.

    It bugs the hell out of me when people demonize religion when it's not the issue. Yes, there are problems with SOME organized religion, but to make such a sweeping generalization and then link it to teen suicide, or to suggest it's eradication is illogical and irrational.
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    Jan 22, 2011 12:06 AM GMT
    TerraFirma said
    paulflexes saidI thought I'd never say this, but the govt really needs to outlaw the entire bible, since that's what these bullies are using as an excuse for their shitty behavior.


    Seriously now? And I suppose you support banning all guns, too?
    No, just banning religious bigots from owning them.
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    Jan 22, 2011 12:07 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    TerraFirma said
    paulflexes saidI thought I'd never say this, but the govt really needs to outlaw the entire bible, since that's what these bullies are using as an excuse for their shitty behavior.


    Seriously now? And I suppose you support banning all guns, too?
    No, just banning religious bigots from owning them.


    Well said.
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    Jan 22, 2011 12:09 AM GMT
    gta129 said
    paulflexes said
    TerraFirma said
    paulflexes saidI thought I'd never say this, but the govt really needs to outlaw the entire bible, since that's what these bullies are using as an excuse for their shitty behavior.


    Seriously now? And I suppose you support banning all guns, too?
    No, just banning religious bigots from owning them.


    Well said.


    You don't have to be religious... just a sociopath.
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    Jan 22, 2011 12:33 AM GMT
    Somerandom saidI dont know how much of this actually has to do with the bible, but some fucking book, written by a bunch of noobs hundreds and hundreds of years ago has ultimately been the catalyst for what it tries to prevent. It is completely outdated. If it cant be outlawed, why not rewritten?


    People always find some way to relate anything and everything to the bible. For some weird reason that I don't quiet understand, people seem to have always seem to have used the bible as a tool to keep people from being educated, self-aware and tolerable. This was the book that was used to put Galileo in prison for looking up at the sky and it was the book that kept Copernicus from publishing the truth. And this was the book used to support segration in the American south and burning of countless intelligent women in the name of God's work.
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    Jan 22, 2011 12:34 AM GMT
    TerraFirma said

    You don't have to be religious... just a sociopath.


    Sometimes its hard to see the line.
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    Jan 22, 2011 9:02 AM GMT
    The Inquisition, The trail of tears, Prop 8,...

    Christians don't have a monopoly on crazy, hateful, and evil, but that old book doesn't help.
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    Jan 22, 2011 9:06 AM GMT
    this is tragic and has to stop somehow. Would you ever be able to live with yourself knowing you bullied someone to death?
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    Jan 22, 2011 9:23 AM GMT
    Jesus Christ I can't believe this is part of my generation. I thought we were supposed to be more liberal, more tolerant. =/ Guess not.
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    Jan 22, 2011 9:32 AM GMT
    I wonder why he kept going on Facebook if it was that painful. And can't you block people on FB?
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    Jan 22, 2011 9:44 AM GMT
    Caslon17000 saidI wonder why he kept going on Facebook if it was that painful. And can't you block people on FB?


    Trust me, if they want to, they have ways, direct or indirect. Also, stop going on Facebook?!? for a teenager whom most likely all of his friends go on?!?!? That's probably the equivalent of social suicide with him only being 14 and probably not being able to go out late...pretty sure MSN/AIM has been replaced by Facebook chat...but maybe he could've Skyped..

    Either way, he shouldn't have had to do any of that going about his daily life. Focus on the real shit disturbers.
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    Jan 22, 2011 10:02 AM GMT
    Somerandom saidI dont know how much of this actually has to do with the bible, but some fucking book, written by a bunch of noobs hundreds and hundreds of years ago has ultimately been the catalyst for what it tries to prevent. It is completely outdated. If it cant be outlawed, why not rewritten?


    You can rewrite shit, but you'll still end up with shit.
  • BarettaB80

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    Jan 22, 2011 11:10 AM GMT
    A lot of unrelated ultrareactionaryism going on in this thread.....
  • Tiller66

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    Jan 22, 2011 11:31 AM GMT
    Well I agree with TerraFirma.It was ultimetly all there chose to end their lives,granted they had alot of motivation to do so but it was still their choice and action that did it.As far as being bullied on Facebook you can do many things to block it,print the pages of all the comments show them to parent,cop,tv news.That alone has brought down many.
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    Jan 22, 2011 12:44 PM GMT
    TerraFirma said
    cosmicjewboy saidIt's time our society pulled its head out of its organized religion run ass and woke up to the realities of the 21st century. Please.


    I'm sorry, but with all the publicity with "It gets better" and the Trevor Project Hotline, practically unavoidable in the mass media (such as Facebook, which he was on!), if this kid did not call, or seek help on his own, then nothing would have helped him. He wanted to die.

    It wasn't religion that caused his death, it was himself. The responsibility was his ultimately, and he chose to take his own life. He could have chosen how he should have dealt with the bullying.

    If anyone else is to blame, I blame the parents, who failed in teaching their child how to manage his emotions, how to pull oneself from a difficult place and give oneself leverage in moving ahead with power and dignity. These things you just can't "let" the world teach your child. As a parent, you must be proactive in teaching and maturing your kids, or you've failed as a parent.

    It bugs the hell out of me when people demonize religion when it's not the issue. Yes, there are problems with SOME organized religion, but to make such a sweeping generalization and then link it to teen suicide, or to suggest it's eradication is illogical and irrational.



    I agree with this!!
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jan 22, 2011 1:47 PM GMT
    How very sad. You think we might be making a little progress and you keep hearing this sort of thing. It makes you wonder if we are doing shit to help those who need it.
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    Jan 22, 2011 4:56 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidI thought I'd never say this, but the govt really needs to outlaw the entire bible, since that's what these bullies are using as an excuse for their shitty behavior.



    I totally agree with you .... icon_biggrin.gif
  • TheIStrat

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    Jan 22, 2011 5:01 PM GMT
    It's a shame because, and I remember this at 14, kids do things to other kids and NEVER expect this reaction. I was bullied, but lately I had to admit to myself that I also bullied others too. And I feel remorseful about that. I wish I could apologize.

    I just can't imagine how these kids who know they bullied someone else to death could ever be able to get a full night of sleep again in their lives. I know I wouldn't.
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    Jan 22, 2011 5:07 PM GMT
    TheIStrat saidIt's a shame because, and I remember this at 14, kids do things to other kids and NEVER expect this reaction. I was bullied, but lately I had to admit to myself that I also bullied others too. And I feel remorseful about that. I wish I could apologize.

    I just can't imagine how these kids who know they bullied someone else to death could ever be able to get a full night of sleep again in their lives. I know I wouldn't.


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