Gatorade or Propel ~ Does it really matter?

  • Drewboo

    Posts: 28

    Jun 19, 2007 5:20 AM GMT
    So my friend tells me that he doesnt drink Gatorade anymore because it has way too many carbs. He drink Propel now. So is the difference between carbs really worth the wannabe taste? Is it something I should consider since Im trying to tone down? I just love the taste of Gatorade and how wonderful it refreshes me. THANKS
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jun 19, 2007 2:50 PM GMT
    Gatorade was designed originally as a source of mineral salts and a lesser role as a quick source of energy. If you aren't having any problems with the sugar fix, why bother changing? Keep a close eye on the sodium levels, though (check the label) To me, Propel tastes waaayyy to fake.
  • MikemikeMike

    Posts: 6932

    Jun 19, 2007 3:18 PM GMT
    Do what you want who cares what a buddy said, unless the behavior would cause you harm! Besides u can always dilute Gatorade if you think it's too much sugar. I drink it only if I'm doing cardio or sweating alot. peace
  • atxclimber

    Posts: 480

    Jun 19, 2007 3:31 PM GMT
    Yeah, an energy drink is made up of sugar, salt, and water, fundamentally. You can dilute it with water as much as you want, so the only important thing is the sugar-to-salt ratio, and that's personal.

    I tend to have very salty sweat, so I tried the Clif Bar energy drink (crisp green apple, delicious) because it has a higher sodium-to-sugar ratio than most. But then I found that no matter how much I drank while cycling, I always felt thirsty. I guess that's good, kind of, because it makes me keep drinking so I stay hydrated, but it was kind of unpleasant. I like that "quenched" feeling when I take a gulp while riding.

    I switched to Accelerade (the blue flavor, whatever that is, mountain berry or something) and find it more to my liking.

    I try to avoid Gatorade because it's made with high-fructose corn syrup, which I hear awful things about, but I'm not really sure it makes that much of a difference -- sugar is sugar, and you shouldn't worry about glycemic index when you're talking about energy drinks -- you WANT a high glycemic index because you should only be drinking it immediately before and during intense exercise to keep your blood sugar up.

    If your friend is worrying about carbs in an energy drink, presumably he's not drinking it during intense exercise, he's just drinking it for the flavor at random times during the day?

    Propel contains 10 calories per 8 ounces, so basically it's calorie-free. It's just like drinking water. For short workouts that's fine, but no serious athlete does multi-hour intense aerobic workouts without consuming a slow-but-steady supply of sugars and electrolytes for most of that time.

    But you should avoid energy drinks with sugars when you're not exercising if you're trying to stay healthy -- they have the exact same nutritional profile as soda. You might as well be drinking cans of regular Coke.

    (Which makes it bizarre to me that so many public schools got religion about getting soda out of their cafeterias, only to replace it with Gatorade, which is made by Pepsi, and is exactly the same as drinking Pepsi!!)
  • Drewboo

    Posts: 28

    Jun 19, 2007 6:29 PM GMT
    Thanks guys. I personally love Gatorade because one, it tastes great, Riptide Rush is my favorite. I also like the original flavors because I get that nostalgic feeling when I drink them and remember running around a field for an hour in a crowd of 5 year old kids kicking a soccer ball and then having snack time during half time drinking Gatorade and Caprison. I also like Gatorade because I dont like UGA.

    But yes, it really helps me when I do the ellyptical machine everyday for an hour or during a spin class, and especially when pumping iron. I cant imagine trying to do the aerobics machines for an hour drinking diet-flavored juice-water. eck. THANKS for the info.
  • atxclimber

    Posts: 480

    Jun 19, 2007 6:46 PM GMT
    Definitely watch intake on that stuff, though. The guy who runs Gym Jones (hilarious name, and the gym that trained the actors in the movie 300) made some crack about watching people at most gyms, burning a whopping 300 calories on the stairmaster and then "replenishing" with a 500-calorie energy bar and drink.

    You'll only need about 100 calories an hour to do pretty intense cardio. If you give your body too much, it won't turn to fat reserves to make up the extra. If you give it too little, though, you'll feel exhausted and have a lousy workout, because your body can't burn fat fast enough to use that as its sole energy source for exercise. "Fat burns in the flame of carbohydrates," as they say.

    If you're only doing an hour, you honestly don't really *need* many carbohydrates during that exercise if you're well-hydrated and have eaten a meal within a few hours of starting.

    Uh, so, a little more info, in case you're not already bored: your muscles have stores of this stuff called glycogen. Glycogen is a substance that can be burned in the muscle for quick energy. Think of it kind of like your car battery, where your digestive system & liver is like the car engine. Your "engine refills the battery", i.e. you synthesize and replace glycogen from blood sugar when your muscles use it up, and you use the glycogen like a car battery -- for a quick, short burst of energy that your "engine" can't totally provide.

    At any random point in time, your muscles' glycogen stores are usually pretty full, and you only deplete them through intense exercise. And they'll probably last you the hour. And if they don't, you have enough residual blood sugar from your most recent meal to make up the difference.

    I'd say, basically, experiment and see how few calories you can consume while doing your cardio, and then have a good meal with a sizable amount of protein and some good, whole-grain carbs after the workout.

    You'll know when you're taking in too few carbs because when you run out of blood sugar, it's not subtle. You really just plain run out, it's like hitting a wall. But on just an hour of cardio, unless you are working yourself into a foaming lather, I bet plain water would be enough.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 07, 2007 1:08 AM GMT
    I don't even deal with all of that, my workouts are hydrated with plain water, nothing else
  • UStriathlete

    Posts: 320

    Jul 07, 2007 4:18 PM GMT
    gatorade has sucrose not HFS. Sucrose is a simple CHO. if your cardio workout is under 60mins all you need is water, about 4-8 oz every 20mins depending on your effort(3-7 out of 10) and sweat rate. I use power bar endurace drink that has simple,medium and comples CHO and electrolytes and Ulimate Replenisher if under 90 mins. Ulimate Replenisher has electrolytes only and is flavored natural, unlike Propel that is sweeten with Alsafume K-potassium/nutrasweet, which can cause headaches in some. Plus has a bad after taste like all the diet drinks.

    good luck!

    from previous post:

    For recovery after cardio workout lasting 90mins + or hard interval training the ratio of 4carb 1.2 gm/kg/hr (CHO) to 1 protien (PRO) 0.8 gm/kg/hr is best. The studies that were done, the athletes went to faliure. Or with strength training is anaerobic you need both CHO and PRO. Skeletal muscle growth is possible only when muscle protein synthesis exceeds muscle protein breakdown. (Tipton and Wolfe, 2001)

    Per day:
    strength athletes need 1.6 to 1.7 gm of protien/kg, where endurance athletes need 1.2-1.4 gm of protein/kg/day. which is about 12 to 15 % protien(Lemon, 1998)

    hope that helps,
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 10, 2007 2:25 AM GMT
    I dont do gatorade because of the high fructose corn syrup that is in it.

    Best bet is vitamin water. and propel is actually a decent drink as well
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 10, 2007 2:31 AM GMT
    If you ever saw the amount of sugar in Gatorade and all those other sport drinks you'd shit. Unless you are engaged in regular, intense exercise, I'd stick with water. Your doing more harm than good. ATX has all the specifics, but you'll save a lot of money and do yourself alot more good if you buy a reusable water bottle.