Texas Governor Perry: Emergency Legislation on Abortion

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    Jan 23, 2011 10:42 PM GMT
    I don't agree with abortion, but at the same time I think that it should be a woman's choice. Why require a woman to see a sonogram?

    Perry to make sonogram legislation an emergency item

    By Jason Embry | Saturday, January 22, 2011, 08:11 AM

    Gov. Rick Perry today will announce that he will designate as emergency legislation a bill requiring a woman who is seeking an abortion to first have a sonogram, according to a source familiar with his plans.

    He will announce the push during a speech this afternoon to the Texas Rally for Life, an annual anti-abortion event at the Capitol.

    In 2009, the state Senate passed legislation requiring that doctors offer women sonograms, but it died in the House. Perry’s legislation would go a step further because it would require that women get the sonograms.

    Perry’s designation will allow the House and Senate to vote on the sonogram legislation sooner than they usually could.

    Perry has trickled out a number of emergency items over the last two weeks, all of them dear to the Republican base and/or members of the tea party. He has called for a crackdown on so-called sanctuary cities, new legislation to strengthen property-owner rights, tougher voter identification requirements at the polls and a resolution telling Congress to pass a balanced-budget amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

    Democrats say Perry is using these issues to distract from the fact that the state is about $27 billion short of the money it needs to continue current government services over the next two years. Public schools across the state, bracing for the state budget shortfall, are poised to lay off thousands of employees and close campuses over the next year, and doctors say proposed cuts in Medicaid funding could cause many physicians to stop seeing patients who are on Medicaid.

    http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/politics/entries/2011/01/22/perry_to_make_sonogram_legisla.html?cxntfid=blogs_postcards
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    Jan 23, 2011 11:00 PM GMT
    This is an emergency? Really Republican Governor Perry? Not the financial crisis imperiling Texas? But abortion?

    I'm so glad Republican Governor Perry has his priorities straight. After browsing the web, I see that he had the support of the Tea Party because of his fiscal conservatism. Oh yes, I can see how fiscal conservatism is his #1 objective.
  • TheIStrat

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    Jan 23, 2011 11:04 PM GMT
    The logic of the sonogram is to show a woman she's not aborting a collection of cells, but that she's destroying a human life. They think a woman will see it and won't be able to go through with the abortion.
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    Jan 23, 2011 11:05 PM GMT
    I wonder where the money is coming from for those sonograms...icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 23, 2011 11:07 PM GMT
    TheIStrat saidThe logic of the sonogram is to show a woman she's not aborting a collection of cells, but that she's destroying a human life. They think a woman will see it and won't be able to go through with the abortion.


    But why? I don't think a woman makes a rash decision about abortion. It isn't like she looks at the e.p.t. pregnancy test, sees that it is positive, throws it in the trash, and runs down to the abortion clinic.
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    Jan 23, 2011 11:07 PM GMT
    A republican emergency happens when they're losing a hearts and minds battle .... which right now is the healthcare debate

    Faced with the knowledge that their legislation is going nowhere
    and the fact that the polls are beginning to go against them as the public sees that there is benefits for them
    They go immediately to their default mode

    ......... Fags fetuses and guns

    Right now it's the fetus
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    Jan 23, 2011 11:08 PM GMT
    Balljunkie said
    TheIStrat saidThe logic of the sonogram is to show a woman she's not aborting a collection of cells, but that she's destroying a human life. They think a woman will see it and won't be able to go through with the abortion.


    But why? I don't think a woman makes a rash decision about abortion. It isn't like she looks at the e.p.t. pregnancy test, sees that it is positive, throws it in the trash, and runs down to the abortion clinic.


    Dude, don't ask me, that's just the logic they have. Personally, I think it won't work.
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    Jan 23, 2011 11:21 PM GMT
    He's in one of the most, conservative states and he's mere'ly using dumb tricks that get the bible thumping dummies attention, you can bet the backers, haven't even considered the financial costs for this latest crazyness, all they see is God is on our side. So much for such earthly matters as budgets.
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    Jan 23, 2011 11:31 PM GMT
    Let's see how much money this might cost:
    http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/chs/vstat/latest/nabort.shtmIn 2007, a total of 81,079 induced abortions were reported to DSHS. This number includes all induced abortions performed in Texas plus those obtained in other states by Texas residents. There were 977 fewer induced terminations of pregnancy (abortions) reported to DSHS in 2007 than in 2006. Texas residents obtained 77,811 (96.0 percent) of the total abortions reported. This year, the total number of induced abortions reported to DSHS decreased by 1.2 percent (there were 82,056 in 2006).


    http://blog.remakehealth.com/blog_Healthcare_Consumers-0/bid/8297/How-much-does-an-Ultrasound-costOur research shows an average cost of about $150 for an ultrasound study with prices ranging from $100 to over $350.

    (I can tell you right now that is NOT the full price. The hospital can charge for use of the ultrasound machine and radiology department, and the price for the radiologist to read it. Unless they plan to just have a picture of the fetus for the mom to look at, they've got to have a radiologist or obstetrician look at it for medico-legal purposes).

    So that's about $8 to 28 million dollars. And this doesn't take into account how many who initially chose abortion who didn't go through with it, but would still need the ultrasound.
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    Jan 24, 2011 12:40 AM GMT
    So either the poor woman (literally) has to buy the ultrasound to be allowed to have an abortion (like a license to end the pregnancy?), or it'll have to be provided by the state.
    Ultrasounds are done almost routinely assuming the pregnancy is being kept.
    http://www.ob-ultrasound.net/There is no hard and fast rule as to the number of scans a woman should have during her pregnancy. A scan is ordered when an abnormality is suspected on clinical grounds. Otherwise a scan is generally booked at about 7 weeks to confirm pregnancy, exclude ectopic or molar pregnancies, confirm cardiac pulsation and measure the crown-rump length for dating.

    A second scan is performed at 18 to 20 weeks mainly to look for congenital malformations, when the fetus is large enough for an accurate survey of the fetal anatomy. multiple pregnancies can be firmly diagnosed and dates and growth can also be assessed. Placental position is also determined. Further scans may be necessary if abnormalities are suspected.


    So this rule basically wants all pregnant women to get an ultrasound regardless of whether the mother wants to keep the pregnancy.

    Either way, it's good to be an ultrasound tech or own a company that specializes in ultrasounds in Texas.