Over training mindset..more harm than good

  • mybud

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    Jan 25, 2011 9:25 PM GMT
    I intend to over train...this in turn causes me to strain my back keeping me from lifting for a week or two...It's like even though I'm about 9% body fat...I'm still not satisfied...I was 245+ in high school...Even though I'm 175 now...I have this fat guy image of myself....How do I change this mindset so I can stop these self defeating cycles....Any thoughts?????...BUD
  • mybud

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    Jan 28, 2011 3:14 AM GMT
    come on....
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    Jan 28, 2011 3:44 AM GMT
    You've already recognized that you have a problem. Now you need to do something about it. Do what? I have no idea. That's entirely up to you.
  • Jessie_Lee

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    Jan 28, 2011 3:57 AM GMT
    Maybe you could enter underwear contests at the gay clubs.icon_twisted.gif

    The first step is always recognizing the problem. Unfortunately, handling the problem will be a constant battle when it comes to self-image. Because of all the fears in your mind that stems from previous experience, your mind tends to play into your fears and insecurities, which makes it difficult for people to adjust when they've achieved the physical changes they've originally desired.

    So what you need are close friends who will support you. Friends who'll tell you the truth. They'll tell you that you're doing good when you're doing good, that you're slipping when you're slipping, and most of all, they'll let you know when you're doing too much. And you WILL need to listen to those close (and honest) friends when they give you constructive criticisms.

    You could also approach a friendly guy who is experienced and has a body that you admire and hope to achieve for their opinion.
  • mybud

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    Jan 28, 2011 4:04 AM GMT
    Your right....and I pissed at myself cause I repeat theses patterns...It's like perfection appears to be at hand and BAM....I overdo.....I need to be more in tune with my body and listen to those cues...that tell ya....Hey dumbass you're doin it again....
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    Jan 28, 2011 4:18 AM GMT
    you could also probably use some support, a friend, training partner... someone that know's what they are talking about in terms of training, but can also gauge, just from your description of your workouts vs. physical fatigues, rest periods, when you should take it easy. You can, and may, do more harm than good in the long run.

    I completely understand where you come from because I've done that too. But I'm also recognizing, for example tonight, I was to do a card session, but I am pretty pooped. So i'll hit they hay early, and get up early to hit the gym. find the right balance that works for you
  • me35mtl

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    Jan 28, 2011 4:40 AM GMT
    trainers always say the best amount to work out is 4 times a day and max hour each time especially in your case with the bad back..If you have strained your back somehow in some kind of injury or you find your back is getting weaker you should see a physiotherapist who can help you strengthen your back and eventually get you to a place where you can do more workouts
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    Jan 28, 2011 6:24 PM GMT
    During the break, just eat clean and ride it out until your back heals. This almost sounds like a phobia, but know that although cutting is a complete bitch, you'll live through this. I was in the same boat as you and I was 300+ lbs at 6'5" at my heaviest in high school, so in college, there are some times where I have to talk myself out of doing cardio after lifting because I overtrained myself.
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    Jan 28, 2011 7:47 PM GMT
    I've been a personal trainer for 30 years. Still, I'm also rather excessive compulsive. I know that I need to take time off, and if I don't I'll end up run down, sick, with injuries, or all three combined. Still, it's very difficult for me to stop lifting. What I find tends to work for me, is to chart out in advance when I am going to take time off. I plan it for every 6 weeks. And to make it feasible for me to do, I call it my active rest week. During that time I do 45 minutes of cardio every day, Just an easy, moderate pace. I find that at the end of the week, I am SO ready to get back at the weights, and my lifts are always havier because my body has taken the time to replenish. Good luck buddy! Try it and see how it goes. Please let me know how you make out.
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  • Hunkymonkey

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    Jan 29, 2011 8:39 PM GMT
    Overtraining is a definite danger. I used to overtrain so hard and long that I couldn't get out of bed the next day. That's no way to succeed at positive body transformation. My philosophy is that you need to vary the levels of your training, not do overlong workouts, and give yourself sufficient recovery periods. You need to train up to or close to your max, but not beyond (except occasionally), i.e, push yourself, stress and strain the muscles, but not overdo it and destroy your recovery.