Pair jailed for Trafalgar Square homophobic killing

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    Jan 27, 2011 2:11 AM GMT
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    Two people who fatally attacked a man in London's Trafalgar Square after subjecting him to homophobic taunts have been jailed for manslaughter.

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    Ian Baynham, 62, of Beckenham, south-east London, was assaulted outside South Africa House in September 2009.

    He was punched by Joel Alexander, 20, and then repeatedly stamped on by Ruby Thomas, 19, as he lay unconscious.

    The Old Bailey jailed Thomas and Alexander for seven and six years respectively.

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    Former public schoolgirl Thomas, of Anerley, south-east London, hurled obscene abuse at Mr Baynham, a civil servant, during the drink-fuelled assault.

    The court heard she swore and screamed "faggots", and smiled as she "put the boot into" the victim after he was knocked to the ground by Alexander.


    Ian Baynham was attacked in Trafalgar Square in September 2009 Mr Baynham died 18 days after the assault in central London.

    Police found his blood smeared on Thomas's handbag and the ballet pumps she was wearing as she kicked him.

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    Thomas's ex-boyfriend Declan Seavers told the court that the teenager was "not the type of girl" to have done it.

    But Judge Richard Hawkins increased Thomas's sentence from six years to seven years because of the homophobic nature of the attack.

    The judge blamed Thomas for sparking the violence that led to Mr Baynham's death.

    "This was a case of mindless drink-fuelled violence committed in public," he said.

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    "You have a previous conviction for drunken loutish behaviour and you have demonstrated hostility towards Ian Baynham based upon his sexual orientation or presumed sexual orientation."

    Thomas was said to have been "off her face", acting in a "lairy, mouthy" way, and flirting with random men, the jury heard.


    A paramedic attends to Ian Baynham soon after the attack Thomas screamed "faggots" at Mr Baynham and his friend Philip Brown, the court heard.

    When Mr Baynham confronted her, there was a scuffle during which she hit him with her handbag and he grabbed it.

    Alexander, a student from Thornton Heath, south-east London, then ran up and knocked him to the ground, causing a severe brain injury as his head struck the pavement.

    Thomas, a former pupil at £12,000-a-year Sydenham High School for Girls, had a record of violence.

    She was 15 when she assaulted a bus driver in central London in December 2007, near to where the attack on Mr Baynham took place.

    Ben Summerskill, chief of gay rights charity Stonewall, said: "We welcome the extension to the sentence for Ruby Thomas recognising that this terrible killing was homophobic.

    "If Britain's schools continue to fail to tackle homophobic bullying then there's a risk we'll continue to see this sort of incident on our streets."

    Det Insp Paul Barran said: "There is no place whatsoever in our society for any type of aggressive, abusive confrontational behaviour, or homophobic crime."

    Rachael Burke, 18, of Upper Norwood, south-east London, was found guilty of affray at an earlier trial but cleared of manslaughter.

    Thomas and Alexander were convicted of manslaughter at the Old Bailey in December.

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    Jan 30, 2011 11:41 PM GMT
    They are only jailed for 6 and 7 years for manslaughter? Sounds like a light sentence.
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    Jan 30, 2011 11:59 PM GMT
    Life in prison and should have to give speeches from their cells on why its illegal to do the shit they did.
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    Jan 31, 2011 5:25 AM GMT
    creature saidThey are only jailed for 6 and 7 years for manslaughter? Sounds like a light sentence.


    For a country that's so obsessed with hate crimes this is too light of a sentence. I hope when they get released a pack of ravaging trannies fucks them up for life with high heels. In fact, I would love to personally brand onto their foreheads the words, "fag killer."

    Guys: brush up on self-defense please.
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    Jan 31, 2011 6:20 AM GMT
    Yh I agree they deserve harsher sentences. They may have been underage when they committed the crime, but so where other child murderers who have recieved much harsher sentences.

    It's a dman shame.

    The intention may not have been to kill, but the aggravated assualt was not without intention to cause serious bodily harm. The girl deserved the worse punishment for her homophobic hate, causing the situation and then repeatedly stomping on the guy. Her rage needs to mitigated and quick- she won't be so tough in jail, they'll eat her for breakfast. She is proably some butch girls bitch in a tiny cell as I type this.


    I go out around Trafalgar Square often when i'm in the mood for central London.

    I bet you these kids would not have verbally or physically attacked a gay guy for being gay to their face who wasn't as old and who looked like they could handle themselves.

    Jake is right about self-defense. Know it well. Also, and equally important, know how to APPEAR like you are not vulnerable and ready to handle business , should it come to it, to would-be attackers who are sizing you up. Look them in the eye if they are staring at you, slow down if they are following you (running away creates a chase), put your hand in your pocket (fear of the unkown).

    9 times out fo ten, this unsettles would be attackers. They are encountering a rare and un-chartered situation in which the would be victim seems to be more confident/ready for battle than they would expect and rely upon.
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    Jan 31, 2011 7:58 AM GMT
    used to catch the bus from that spot every day back to lambeth. at night, jumpin on those night buses it was usually a clusterfuck of drunk retardeds and gay messes all coming out of clubs. i never remember anyone having problems with each other besides people fighting over girls or guys or whatever silly stuff. thats why i liked london, everyone was doin their own thing and nobody could be bothered to fuck with anyone else for how they looked or acted. too bad.
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    Jan 31, 2011 8:05 AM GMT
    blackstrap saidused to catch the bus from that spot every day back to lambeth. at night, jumpin on those night buses it was usually a clusterfuck of drunk retardeds and gay messes all coming out of clubs. i never remember anyone having problems with each other besides people fighting over girls or guys or whatever silly stuff. thats why i liked london, everyone was doin their own thing and nobody could be bothered to fuck with anyone else for how they looked or acted. too bad.



    Yh it's a strange anomaly that this happened in central London where the mix of people is probably one of the most diverse on the planet... I think the attack was more due to the girl being a lary little gremlin who needed to unload some anger onto anybody she thought was easy prey, just so happened this guy was gay and that is what she used as a way to insult, found he he wasn't gonna take her guff, and her pride propelled her to get violent, and of course, her stupid boy who was trying to look hard had to jump in and impress her with how tough he thought he was.....


    Well, not so tough or smart looking now they are in penn with the real hardened criminals...Muppets
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    Jan 31, 2011 8:09 AM GMT
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    blackstrap saidused to catch the bus from that spot every day back to lambeth. at night, jumpin on those night buses it was usually a clusterfuck of drunk retardeds and gay messes all coming out of clubs. i never remember anyone having problems with each other besides people fighting over girls or guys or whatever silly stuff. thats why i liked london, everyone was doin their own thing and nobody could be bothered to fuck with anyone else for how they looked or acted. too bad.



    Yh it's a strange anomaly that this happened in central London where the mix of people is probably one of the most diverse on the planet... I think the attack was more due to the girl being a lary little gremlin who needed to unload some anger onto anybody she thought was easy prey, just so happened this guy was gay and that is what she used as a way to insulf, found he he wasn't gonna take her guff, and her pride propelled her to get violent, and of course, her stupid boy who was trying to look hard had to jump in and impress her with how tough he thought he was.....


    Well, not so toughor smart looking now they are in penn with the real hardened criminals...Muppets


    RIGHT. exactly. which is why the whole gay bullying thing is never gonna really go away. when you wanna attack someone you go for anything you can that you think might hurt them. ive been called a faggot, white trash, fat, ugly, junky..whatever you name it and ive done the same to other people. i know alot of people on this site probably havent talked alot of shit or got in fights...but i mean all crimes are hate crimes..at least if yer doin em right. if you wanna be a good fighter you gotta be as hateful as possible.
    im not saying that is right or good or anything. but if yer trying to hurt someone you will go after them whatever way you can. i dont have a problem with hate law legislation but i mean all crimes are hate crimes. if you are some chavvin bitch who wants to throw down and you talk a bunch of shit and faggot is one of those words..you shouldnt get a harsher sentence. you should get a harsher sentence because you are a deliquent cunt who killed someone and needs to be in jail.
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    Jan 31, 2011 9:17 AM GMT
    I don't get why it was manslaughter not murder, they may not have had intention to kill but you cannot argue that kicking someone repeatedly in the head is not intending to cause GBH.

    Hope scum like this get shanked in jail.
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    Jan 31, 2011 9:59 AM GMT
    That is just plain wrong. Well now they will spend time in prison, and have their asses passed around the cell block as a peace token!
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    Feb 13, 2011 1:01 AM GMT
    just saw the medical detectives show about a 16 year old girl who unintentionally killed her 8 months old daughter and gained 40 YEARS ibehind bars!!! this was her 1st crime and had no criminal history...

    and these sickos got 6 years with previous aggression history?!?!?!?!
    Outrageous...it makes me ashamed of human race:-(
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    Feb 13, 2011 1:11 AM GMT
    Someone needs to rape that woman with a pair of scissors, cut off her tits, beat her until her eyeballs pop and then knock her teeth out.
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    Feb 13, 2011 1:19 AM GMT
    punishment should fit the crime u kill someone guess what goodbye see u never. that is suck bs and then only 7 years r u kidding me. those r the people that make it hard for me not to kick the shit out of a dumbass person like that.
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    Feb 13, 2011 7:26 AM GMT
    . . . England is a dying country, softened to death by their own horrific, lying meninloves . . .
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    Feb 13, 2011 11:37 AM GMT
    noren said . . . England is a dying country, softened to death by their own horrific, lying meninloves . . .




    Invalid, unfounded assertions = rancid poo. Just sayin'