Bi versus Straight

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    Jan 28, 2011 2:28 AM GMT
    I like to have, and do have sex, with guys and women. So I say I'm Bisexual. But I see that alot of guys (mainly tops) who fuck and let guys suck them call themselves "straight." This to me seems like these guys are in denial. For me, it has a been real hard life dealing with sex with 2 sexes, but at least I admit it. My question is: can you call yourself a "straight" man and really get off and orgasm with a man?
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    Jan 28, 2011 2:37 AM GMT
    Who cares? Who are you trying to convince?

    Don't waste your time trying to define somebody else's sexual orientation.
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    Jan 28, 2011 3:03 AM GMT
    icon_sad.gifIt's not a matter of definition that I'm talking about. It's more of a matter of what seems to be socially accepted. I long for a world where people understand and accept us bisexuals. And that bisexuals can say "I like sex with someone who I'm attracted to regardless of sex and without apologies or coverup/secrecy. If you are not Bi, it's hard to understand.Many people don't realize that it is just as hard, maybe harder, for a bi person in life than even a gay or transexual. You get alot of HATE when it,s exposed. And that hurts.
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    Jan 28, 2011 3:26 AM GMT
    I really don't know how to make "coming out as bi" any easier.

    But I don't think it can be achieved by increasing bi numbers with unwilling people. You can count them as bi as long as you want, but unless they are comfortable with being bi, they won't help your cause.
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    Jan 28, 2011 3:36 AM GMT
    We're men!

    I believe that your penis DOES NOT know the difference between a man and a woman. All your penis knows is that it's being physically touched in some manner, thereby letting blood flow, causing an erection and after an undetermined amount of time, orgasm follows.
  • iHavok

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    Jan 28, 2011 3:39 AM GMT
    I like to have sex with people who are attractive to me.
    I dont need to give it a fancy name or rules. Hell call it potato-sexual if ya want. Long as I'm getting mine, i will leave you alone to get yours.
  • bladeaddict

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    Jan 28, 2011 3:42 AM GMT
    If a guy gets off with another guy, that's pretty much the textbook definition of homosexuality. If he also enjoys sex with women, he's bisexual.

    Whether or not he chooses to identify himself as bisexual or gay - or even admit it to himself - is a completely different question. And this is the question with the weight of centuries of homophobia pulling at it.
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    Jan 28, 2011 3:45 AM GMT
    iHavok said Hell call it potato-sexual if ya want.


    Potato-Sexual sounds erotic
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    Jan 28, 2011 3:47 AM GMT
    Okay, time for another Gay Slang Definition! icon_biggrin.gif

    TRADE
    -A straight man willing to have another guy blow him, or even participate in intercourse, as long as the straight one tops.
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    Jan 28, 2011 3:47 AM GMT
    Most bisexuals have a preference for the two sexes. do you?
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    Jan 28, 2011 3:49 AM GMT
    Dude...I think the key to it is if this str8 guy receives but doesn't turn the favor....His str8 status is in tact....and I feel they're guys out there who would gladly fuck or get blown by a guy but find pleasuring a another guy a turn off....BUD
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    Jan 28, 2011 3:53 AM GMT
    frenchatheart saidMost bisexuals have a preference for the two sexes. do you?


    Says who???
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    Jan 28, 2011 3:59 AM GMT
    Allathlete said
    frenchatheart saidMost bisexuals have a preference for the two sexes. do you?


    Says who???

    Research, a few years back. Google it, if you are interested. According to the results Only about 25% of bisexuals are really that, the others are either gay or straight and just enjoy a walk on the wild side or don't have the guts to come out (yet).
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    Jan 28, 2011 4:03 AM GMT
    bobmann saidicon_sad.gifIt's not a matter of definition that I'm talking about. It's more of a matter of what seems to be socially accepted. I long for a world where people understand and accept us bisexuals. And that bisexuals can say "I like sex with someone who I'm attracted to regardless of sex and without apologies or coverup/secrecy. If you are not Bi, it's hard to understand.Many people don't realize that it is just as hard, maybe harder, for a bi person in life than even a gay or transexual. You get alot of HATE when it,s exposed. And that hurts.


    i think people can be Bi, love is love and you can't help who your attracted to. The heart can't be denied who he or she loves, and sometimes sex is just sex and has nothing to do with love. It really irritates me when people judge Bi guys, especially the gay community. We all want acceptance, plain and simple.
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    Jan 28, 2011 4:44 AM GMT
    Yes and then one day they may want to be known as gay too, but they are not gay either as they are bi, and bi is neither straight or gay. I myself a pure homosexual is 100% homosexual.
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    Jan 28, 2011 4:50 AM GMT
    True_Blue_Aussie saidYes and then one day they may want to be known as gay too, but they are not gay either as they are bi, and bi is neither straight or gay. I myself a pure homosexual is 100% homosexual.


    only thing u are is a pure heterophobe. and this is coming from someone else whos never had sex with a girl and isnt remotely sexually attracted to them. Its still offensive even to me.
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    Jan 28, 2011 6:42 AM GMT
    I'm straight and proud.
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    Jan 28, 2011 7:25 AM GMT
    You know bisexual men have their own banner of bisexual, yet they either want to stand under the banner of straight or gay, or all 3. yet no matter what they are still bi, never straight or gay. They are like our half cast brothers; thus should not share the same name with their half brothers the straights or the gays. It's why we have two, to, too, as there is a diffrence.icon_wink.gif

    Yet the bi guys who are playing it straight, and on the down low, and when it all goes wrong for them, their sins fall on us pure homosexuals the real gays, and not on their tittle of bi. It's wrong us pure homosexual have a Right to a banner of our very own, as we are diffrent to our half brothers, and deserve an identity of our own instead of the generic one of gay. This will also separate us from the sins of our half brothers the bisexuals.

    So the bis just don't want to be known as straight. Many when done with hiding behind the skirts of women, want to then be known as gay, and not bi.

    Time to stop the confusion and us pure homosexuals get a banner of our very own. Not sure why 1 or 2 bisexuals here get upset about it, it does not include them, they already have 3 banners they can use, straight, bi, gay. All it will do, is give us pure homosexuals the real gay a place, and name of our very own; and thats a wonderful thing; and any bisexual who does ot want us to have that is dead beat selfish too.

    Let gay become known for bisexuals living the homosexual lifestyle.
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    Jan 28, 2011 8:00 AM GMT
    True_blue_aus...You know bisexual men have their own banner of bisexual, yet they either want to stand under the banner of straight or gay, or all 3. yet no matter what they are still bi, never straight or gay. They are like our half cast brothers; thus should not share the same name with the half brothers the straights or the gays. It why we have two, to, too, as there is a diffrence.

    Yet the bi guys who are playing it straight, and on the down low, and when it all goes wrong for them, their sins fall on us pure homosexuals the real gays, and not on their tittle of bi. It's wrong us pure homosexual have a Right to a banner of our very own, as we are diffrent to our half brothers, and deserve an identity of our own instead of the generic one of gay. This will also separate us from the sins of our half brothers the bisexuals.

    So the bis just don't want to be known of straight. Many when done with hiding behind the skirts of women, want to then be known as gay, and not bi.

    Time to stop the confusion and us pure homosexuals get a banner of our very own. Not sure why 1 or2 bisexuals here get upset about it, it does not include them, they already have 3 banners they use, straight, bi, gay. All it will do is give us pure homosexuals the real gay a place, and name of our very own; and thats a wonderful thing.

    Let gay become known for bisexuals living the homosexual lifestyle.


    Now now that's a very bias way of thinking. I know a very many gay men who live under the 'banner' of being straight. Even going so far to have sex with women and hating it in order to maintain their outward appearance. Surely this is the worst form of 'betrayal' of one's banner and this is also where alot of the hate for homosexuals come from as it makes them seem devious, strange and just creepy.

    Bisexuals (I am one), like gay people can choose what to call themselves and so hide or reveal their preferences just as anyone else can. We do not purposefully shift or our bad credit onto gay people. The homosexual act itself is what is seen as the sin, not the person's preference. In fact, many straight people are further repulsed by openly bisexual people as they find them strangest of all. Even some gay people who find heterosexual sex disgusting find bisexuals to be repulsive

    You make it sound like a race group, 'pure homosexuals". What a load of bullshit. Sorry Hitler but that's not the way this works. How can one be 'pure' when a preference is a changing thing throughout one's life? It is very possible to be straight and later on become gay AND vice versa believe it or not. Just like a kid growing up to like vegetables.

    Bisexual and gay people suffer equally when being judged by others as it's not the preferance, but the act being judged. If anything, straight people tend to see only straight and not straight. Think a little harder before trying to preach the rise of the Aryan Gay.
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    Jan 28, 2011 8:27 AM GMT
    If balls didn't touch, they are straight
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    Jan 29, 2011 7:27 PM GMT
    Men, last summer I finally accepted my self as bi. After fighting and fearing it for nearly 23 years, avery good friend helped me to understand tthis. Guys I lovefemzles, the female body, I would would be lost with out all, shzpes, sizes colors, and ethnic breasts, as well as the vagina. But I also enjoy being with a man.
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    Jan 29, 2011 7:42 PM GMT
    too much talk about banners, and sexual sinful niss, I did not think tthis was.a political issue discussion. my priest helped me realizeGod created us all as we are, the reason why we may not be able to see. the name of god is many name s, the great spirit, atwala , or budda, dust, the message is the same, love one another.
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    Jan 30, 2011 3:21 AM GMT
    frenchatheart saidMost bisexuals have a preference for the two sexes. do you?


    I don't think this is true either. I have though about this for a long time and trying to work out if I was straight/bi/gay. Finally, I class myself as bi, I'll top or bottom with a guys (and love it), then quite easily switch back to sex with a girl.. I't just what you feel like at the time
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    Jan 30, 2011 3:22 AM GMT
    frenchatheart saidMost bisexuals have a preference for the two sexes. do you?


    I don't think this is true either. I have though about this for a long time and trying to work out if I was straight/bi/gay. Finally, I class myself as bi, I'll top or bottom with guys (and love it), then quite easily switch back to sex with a girl.. I't just what you feel like at the time
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    Jan 30, 2011 3:36 AM GMT
    bobmann saidI like to have, and do have sex, with guys and women. So I say I'm Bisexual. But I see that alot of guys (mainly tops) who fuck and let guys suck them call themselves "straight." This to me seems like these guys are in denial. For me, it has a been real hard life dealing with sex with 2 sexes, but at least I admit it. My question is: can you call yourself a "straight" man and really get off and orgasm with a man?


    What you're getting at would have the potential to be an interesting forum topic. Chances are, though, that this one will just get buried in another flame war on the semantics of sexual orientation/behavior/identity.

    See the outcome of previous RJ.com forum topics on this sort of thing:
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/?searchtext=bisexual

    I think you and (nearly) everyone else on here agrees generally with the direction you're going with your last question (been searching the M4M section on Craigslist lately, have you?) but I think that there's probably better commentary to be made on it.

    Want to offer us an analysis of the socio-political climate that influences the way people choose to perform their own sexual identity others and themselves?

    Want to do a survey of the way people choose to publicly communicate their sexual identity based on their geographic communities? (Portland M4Ms versus Fort Worth M4Ms, for example?)

    Want to ask questions about whether same sex romantic attraction or NSA sex is more 'queering'?

    It appears to me that your frustration with bearing the brunt of judgment from straights and 'mos alike is raising your ire and making you momentarily a bit peevish towards the 'st8's. Understandable. Take a deep breath and ask what you really want to ask.