Zimbabwean election - end of Mugabe's rule?

  • NickoftheNort...

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    Mar 30, 2008 1:35 PM GMT
    Zimbabwe held its elections yesterday and there is decent speculation that Mugabe has lost this one.

    All I can say at the moment is: Woohoo! The end of a reign of unjust men abusing a just cause.
  • ShawnTX

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    Mar 30, 2008 2:01 PM GMT
    That's assuming the election won't be rigged.

    Let's hope Mugabe's time has come...it's long overdue.
  • NickoftheNort...

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    Mar 30, 2008 2:03 PM GMT
    Oh, the election's being rigged, but it's now a question of whether it's being rigged enough to ensure his hold on power.
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    Mar 30, 2008 3:30 PM GMT
    Good lord, NickOfTheNorth! It appears that great minds think alike! It appears that in the ridiculous time between me starting to write a thread on this and finishing you'd already done it.
  • NickoftheNort...

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    Mar 30, 2008 4:17 PM GMT
    I noticed that as well TigerTim, though yours has a more heartfelt and compassionate tone (and includes information links) ^_^

    May the next rulers of Zimbabwe restore the country to where it once was in terms of social and economic power and provide a reign that finally puts Mugabe in the shameful light he deserves.

    I'm curious what such a change in power will entail for Zimbabwe's relationships with the African Union and the neighboring states that (apparently) failed to rebuke Mugabe's regime.
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    Mar 30, 2008 4:54 PM GMT
    The MDC have their work cut out for them, even if they succeed in claiming power. If you read Jeffrey Sach's report on stopping hyperinflation in Bolivia, it is fairly clear that the hyperinflation in Zimbabwe is a lot more serious. And the recession/price controls have destroyed businesses and infrastucture. When I lived in Zim, the roads were exemplary. Now, not so much.

    In the medium term, the issue of Land Reform, which is the reason ZW is in the state it's in now must be addressed. If the MDC are able to reign in the hyperinflation, and repossess the land redistributed to Mugabe's cronies and redistribute this in a transparent and reasonable manner (nationalization may be a good option in the short term), then I think it is very likely that they will be able to get the UK and the USA to recommit to the Lancaster House agreement and restore compensation payments for white farmers. Given the appalling effects of forced redistribution on the economy, it may be more prudent to offer leases of reasonable length to the physically commercial farmers and some sort of incentive for productivity with a view to representative land ownership eventually (within the next two or three decades) and concentrate on absentee farmers as the target of redistribution. To be sure, if the Bolivia experience shows that it will take a couple of decades for the economy to recover.

    You're correct in identifying the AU as a source of frustration. Thabo Mbecki, in particular, should be sharply criticized. I guess you can't blame them for circling the wagons when Europe and America hypocrtically harp on about human rights and yet sell Africans the weapons they use to kill each other. Since the UK, EU and US are unassailable, they are of course a convenient target for the mistakes of incompetent government.

    And of gay people in Zimbabwe? I am sorry for them. It is a horribly closeted life.
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    Mar 30, 2008 5:32 PM GMT
    I think the most absurd comment so far from Mugabe in the last several days is the following that was quoted in the Washington Post.

    ""I cannot sleep with a clear conscience if there is any cheating,"

    If that were true, then the man would have not slept in a very long time. Of course, it's not, so I'm sure no one should be concerned about his health.
  • NickoftheNort...

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    Mar 31, 2008 4:58 AM GMT
    According to The ZIMBABWE Situation, SW Radio Africa (London) reports that the Zimbabwean military has instructed the Zimbabwean Electoral Commission to declare Mugabe the winner in spite of the election results.

    Can this end well?
  • NickoftheNort...

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    Apr 01, 2008 4:57 PM GMT
    Hmm...the latest news from CNN suggests that there is now a deal where Mugabe will agree to resign...hope hope hope!
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    Apr 02, 2008 3:17 PM GMT
    Better late then never I guess. But this country is in such bad shape it could take generations to get it back on even keel (100,000% inflation rate).

    Racism is evil and the Rhodesian government was wrong to have the practices it had in the 60's and 70's, but Mugabe's decision to evict the White farmers was one of the stupidest decisions a leader has made in many a year. Fortunately South Africa took a more conciliatory approach in trying to repair the damage of apartheid.