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    Mar 30, 2008 2:19 PM GMT
    Hey guys-

    I am going to be making a trip out to New York at the start of June, and was wondering if any of you might have ideas on "off the beaten track" places to go. I mean, obviously there are tons of "hot spots" like the Statue of Liberty...but I thought some of you might have ideas on places to go that aren't in any tour books. Maybe some cool gay clubs, or just amazing restaurants come to mind? Just let me know if you have some awesome ideas...I'd like the full New York experience icon_biggrin.gif Thanks in advance icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 30, 2008 2:53 PM GMT
    Sigh...I left New York so long ago that I don't know any places either. All my favorite haunts are gone, I hear.

    Sorry guy.....
  • swimbikerun

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    Mar 30, 2008 3:29 PM GMT
    Me too! I'm headed to NYC at the end of April so New Yawkers please post some of your favorites places!
  • puttputt

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    Mar 30, 2008 3:47 PM GMT
    Eh... Statue of Liberty is so overrated. Yeah, I guess you have to see it if it's your first time, but plan on spending hours and hours there since security is so tight and lines are ridiculously long.

    I've actually never been clubbing in NYC because I always go in the winter and it's just too freaking cold to want to go clubbing... but if you're looking for a few good places to eat, I suggest the following:


    FINE DINING
    Gotham Bar & Grill
    12 E. 12th Street
    New York, NY 10003
    (212) 620-4020

    You'll drop over a hundred for your meal, but well worth it if you're looking to fine dine. Their tuna tartar is the best I've had in the city. If you were thinking about going to Jean Georges to fine dining instead... I would say don't. I've been there and the environment was just so sterile.. Gotham was definitely more friendly and happening.

    NY PIZZA
    Lombardi's Pizza
    32 Spring St
    New York, NY 10012
    (212) 941-7994

    BEST pizza I've had in my life. And I've had pizza in Italy... but this beats the pants off of that.

    Ice Cream
    Chinatown Ice Cream Factory
    65 Bayard St
    New York, NY 10013
    (212) 608-4170

    It's a tiny hole in the wall, but the ice cream is really good, especially if you like Asian flavors. I always get the red bean or lychee. Also, there's a hot young Chinese guy who sometimes works there with really nice big biceps (probably from scooping that ice cream).

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    Mar 30, 2008 3:52 PM GMT
    Here's a short list of fun stuff that's a litle off the path:

    - Take the sky tram to roosevelt island. It's Swiss engineering that has you floating over the city along the top of the queen's borough bridge. Great views, especially in early evening. You can stay and have a look at the island, or hop right back on the tram for the trip back.

    - Visit the American Museum of Natural History and see one of the Planetarium shows. Or any other of their amazing collection of everything from gems to dinosaur bones. http://www.amnh.org/rose/

    - Splash is a very fun bar with interesting theme nights and, well, lots of hot guys. http://splashbar.com/

    - Trinity Church [url]http://www.trinitywallstreet.org/history/[/url and St. Paul's Chapel http://www.saintpaulschapel.org/ are amazing colonial churches that were attended by some of the country's founders, including George Washington. They are a short walk from each other, and ground zero. St. Paul's is now a shrine to ground zero workers and people who cared for them during hours and days after 9/11. It's not an easy visit emotionally for some, but worth it.

    - Chinatown and Little Italy on a Saturday. These neighborhoods bleed into each other, so you can see them on the same day, and they are so worth the visit for food, souvenirs, etc.

    Whatever you choose to do I hope you have a blast!
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    Mar 30, 2008 4:31 PM GMT
    I don't live in NY but we keep my grandparents' 5th Avenue co-op on the upper east side across from the MMOMA. When I'm there I like to run and get sun in the park (weather permitting). I also like shopping on Madison Avenue - especially the Polo Store.

    For restaurants, here are my favorites: Daniel (on E. 65th) - Cafe Boulud (on E. 76th) - Aureole (on E. 61st) - Nello (on Madison) - TSE Yang (on 51st). If you want phone numbers for any of these - or more places - let me know!

    Gregg
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    Mar 30, 2008 4:38 PM GMT
    My favorite gay bar in NYC is definitely Phoenix. Killer jukebox full of alternative rock, and the place is full of cool, regular guys.

    I wish we had a place like that here in Baltimore.

  • auryn

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    Mar 30, 2008 4:47 PM GMT
    Stay away from Coney Island.
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    Mar 30, 2008 5:03 PM GMT
    thanks guys icon_smile.gif looks like i might have to make another trip soon! if anyone else has ideas, though, it'd be awesome to hear 'em.
  • GeorgeNJ

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    Mar 30, 2008 5:51 PM GMT
    Restaurants:

    1. One If By Land, Two If By Sea - 17 Barrow St down in the west Village (1 block south of Christopher, just off 7th Av) - Very old establishment, very expensive, but very classy. It has a fabulous bar when you walk in, with a grand piano, fireplaces, easy chairs, and frequently really hot bartenders -- well worth stopping by for a drink. Not a gay place, per se, but it IS in a gay neighborhood. http://www.oneifbyland.com

    2. Lederhosen - 39 Grove St, W Village, also just off 7th Av. German, competitively priced, excellent food. www.lederhosennyc.com

    3. Po - 31 Cornelia St (Just off Bleaker St, W Village). Italian, competitively priced, excellent food. Owner is gay, has a radio show in NYC. www.porestaurant.com

    4. Pergola Des Artistes - 252 West 46th (just west of Broadway). Country French, competitive prices. Food and service are superlative. www.pergoladesartistes.com

    Also, 2 landmarks, the Oscar Wilde Bookstore (http://www.oscarwildebooks.com/) on Christopher St, just off 6th Av, and a block from The Stonewall Inn, on Christopher near 7th Av. Stonewall was just redone inside, worth seeing for a drink.

    If you're looking for a place to get some sun, as well as some manflesh eye candy - and it's a sunny day - check out the pier at the end of Christopher Street, across the West Side Highway (easy walking distance from the Christopher St PATH train). It's a concrete pier, with chairs and some awnings, open air shower sprays, and lots of grass to stretch out on, on your towel. It juts out into the Hudson, and you can see across to Jersey City and Hoboken, where Manhattan-like skyscrapers are going up. Lots of boating on this river, including a boat that is kind of like a mini-atlantic city = gambling, etc., if you're into that. This boat is right near the pier.

    Re: "off the beaten track places," I would suggest you veer away from the mid-town area because that's also the theater district, and everything there is more expensive and a LOT more touristy. Keep below 23rd Street. The Chelsea section, I guess the most gay section now, is between 14th and 23rd on the west side (6th, 7th, 8th Ave). Tons of clubs -- G, Gym, Barracuda -- you can look all these up in the city. Pick up a copy of MetroSource NY (free, laying at the doors of most restaurants and shops all over the city), for gay listings.

    Enjoy.
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    Mar 30, 2008 6:39 PM GMT
    Best Restaurant that will blow your mind and is not too expensive is

    Budakhan .......check out their website.


    Stay in Chelsea, always something goin on all hours of the day and nite.

    Take the subway to brooklyn and walk the bridge back to manhattan, you get some good pics of the statue of liberty that way. Takes about 10 minutes to walk the bridge. A must do experience.
  • GQjock

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    Mar 30, 2008 8:44 PM GMT
    Depends on what you like and when you're going

    Some sites to see ....

    The Metropolitan...get lost for a day inside one of the greatest Museums in the world

    Central Park...on a beautiful day all of New York comes out to play

    If you go more toward Summer... The Christopher St Pier
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    Chelsea...Especially the bars and restaurants along 8th Ave http://newyork.gaycities.com/bars/nid/2901/
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    Apr 01, 2008 2:15 AM GMT
    I recommend museums -- we have amazing art. Try the Whitney Biennial, the Met and MOMA. If you like that get a Gallery Guide and check out the gallery scene in SoHO. How about a staten island ferry ride for a great close up look at the harbor. eat lots of pizza and go to chinatown for dim sum. OF COURSE you'll want to hang out in chelsea, 8th avenue is the unofficial capitol of our people. icon_biggrin.gif
    oh -- the christopher street pier is another hot spot for guy watching (the river view is nice too.) icon_wink.gif

    and central park. that oughtta keep you busy -- have fun!
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    Apr 01, 2008 2:35 AM GMT
    On Sunday nights Hiro Ballroom at the Maritime Hotel is definately a major hotspot. The doors open at 10 and about 2 hours later the entire place is PACKED! There have always been a lot of celeb spottings there (Lance Bass, Posh Spice, etc)
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    Apr 01, 2008 2:37 AM GMT
    Go eat Japanese food on St. Mark's Place (6 train to Astor Place, then walk east). There's a fantastic place called Go at 30 St Marks Pl. on the right side of the street. If you can find it, you'll be rewarded with delicious, authentic food.

    If you like Thai food, go to Spice at 60 University Pl. Take the subway to Union Sq and walk down University Pl until you reach the restaurant.

    Neither is expensive.
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    Apr 01, 2008 2:48 AM GMT
    If you're there on a Friday, visit MoMA, the Museum of Modern Art. It's free after 4pm on Friday.

    If you're a history buff, you can go see Fraunces Tavern at 54 Pearl St. It's rebuilt, not the original, but it's the location where George Washington resigned his commission as military general.

    The Body Works exhibit at Fulton St. is cool if you're into biology and human anatomy. It's also a few yards away from the 17th St. Pier, a relaxing hangout with a nice view of the Brooklyn Bridge.

    I'd also recommend taking in a TV taping. Letterman is fairly easy to get in to. Saturday Night Live is nearly impossible. The Daily Show is pretty tough too.

    Check out Central Park. If you're a Beatles fan, go to 72nd West to see the Dakota building, where John Lennon live and died. Nearby in the park is Strawberry Fields, Lennon's memorial.

    As for bars, the Phoenix (13th St. between 1st and Ave. A)is fun and better than the bars at Christopher St., which are mostly over-rated, except for Ty's Place.
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    Apr 15, 2008 12:38 PM GMT
    I've always wanted to see the Broadway shows but that's the only thing in NYC that interests me.
    Good luck on your trip. I hope you have a wonderful time.
  • joggerva

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    Apr 15, 2008 12:50 PM GMT
    If you like cupcakes (or even if you don't care much), stop at Magnolia Bakery on Bleecker Street. The cupcakes are incredible!
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    Apr 15, 2008 1:16 PM GMT
    Well I am glad I came across this forum. I leave tomorrow with my partner for 4 full days in NYC. We are staying near Times Square. We are seeing "Jersey Boys" Thursday night. We are definitely going to the Metropolitaion Museum of Art and the MOMA because we both love art. Also want to check out some gay bars. I heard Therapy and the Stonewall Inn are both good and I have heard good things about Phoenix as well as a few others.

    The pope is in town the same time which will probably snarl traffic at times, but the weather is going to be beautiful, no rain in the forecast!
  • dfrourke

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    Apr 15, 2008 1:54 PM GMT

    I have to put my vote in for:

    Barracuda [love this bar]
    HERO [on Sunday night]
    See the MOMA

    - David
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    Apr 15, 2008 1:58 PM GMT
    Skip the Statue of Liberty, since you can't even go up in it now. Instead of the Empire State Building, try going to the top of Rockefeller Center (Top of the Rock). As someone else mentioned, the Bodies exhibit is here in the summer. I'd stay away from Chinatown unless you need to get some knockoff purses, belts, or watches as gifts.

    Many of the museums have free admission on Fridays, although they can be very packed and close early. If you want to venture way uptown, you can visit the Cloisters, which is part of the Metropolitan Museum of Art. If you pay there you can also get into the Met. They suggest $20 to get in but you can pay whatever you want, even $1. The park there is very beautiful and more quiet than Central Park.

    Here's some places I love to eat:

    Highline (Thai & killer Mojitos)
    835 Washington St
    New York, NY 10014
    (212) 243-3339
    Meatpacking District at Little W 12th St

    Rice to Riches (Rice pudding - freaking amazing!)
    37 Spring Street (Btwn Mott & Mulberry)
    New York, NY 10012
    (212) 274-0008

    Neptune (Polish food - excellent & cheap)
    194 1st Ave, New York 10009
    At 12th St
    212-777-4163

    Yakitori Taisho (very authentic food - place is a dive though - but in a good way)
    5 St. Marks Pl.,
    New York, NY 10003
    between Second and Third Aves.
    212-228-5086

    The Eatery (great for Sunday brunch. Gay crowd)
    798 9th Ave
    New York, NY 10019
    212-765-7080

    I don't go out to the gay bars a whole lot anymore. The scene is pretty tired. Chelsea is very boring to me and Hell's Kitchen is getting that way as well. Avoid any place where you have to pay a large cover charge since most places are free. If you want to go dancing, Splash charges I think $20 but The Ritz is free.

    I prefer going to the East Village - more down-to-earth people. A couple of guys have mentioned Phoenix, which is my favorite bar in the city. You can also go to Williamsburg in Brooklyn and check out Metropolitan. Many people like it. I like Therapy in Hell's Kitchen, mostly b/c my roommate works there and I know the staff. They have some fun shows on the weeknights.

    Check out Beauty Bar close to Union Square. You can get a manicure and cocktail for $10 and it also has dancing.

    If you have time, go to DUMBO in Brooklyn. It has lots of cute stores, restaurants, and coffee shops.

    My favorite bookstore in the city is The Strand in Union Square (which is a great place to visit).

    There are also many free things going on in the city. Check out Club Free Time at http://www.clubfreetime.com/new_york.asp.

    Also check out Time Out New York at http://www.timeout.com/newyork/. It lists many great things to do.

    In my opinion, Broadway is in a very sad state and you can save your money by skipping a musical based on a movie. There's not a whole lot of originality out there right now.

    My other tip is to pick the one thing you absolutely have to do on a specific day and not try to pack everything in; the rest should be optional for the day. Everything takes much longer than you think it will take.

    If you go out to the bars, take a specific amount of money and leave your credit card or debit card at home. Otherwise you'll come back to the hotel and wonder how you spent several hundred dollars. However, many bars have a happy hour that goes till 9 or 10 p.m. so you can get half-price drinks then.

    Hope you have a great time!
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    Apr 15, 2008 2:01 PM GMT
    Hey Wysiwyg60, don't pay the full $20 when you go to the Metropolitan Museum of Art. The $20 is a suggested donation and you can give whatever you want.

    Go to the Whitney Biennial if you can - http://whitney.org/www/2008biennial/www/?section=home.

    It's a major exhibit.
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    Apr 15, 2008 2:03 PM GMT
    If you like Indian food, be sure to get dinner at the Gandhi Cafe on 7 Av and Bleeker. Somewhere in Hell's Kitchen is a great Peruvian Restaurant... 45th and 10 Av, I think. For chocolate that'll knock your socks off, Serendipity's on 72nd and 2 Av (or thereabouts). Cafe La Vista (used to ba called Pasta La Vista) is also a cool place for "Italian" food... 6 Av and 56th. Get a cannoli at Rocko's Cafe on Bleeker, just before 6 Av... it's a must! There's good Mexican food at Marianne's on 16th and 8 Av in Chelsea.

    As for things to do, checking out the galleries in SoHo is a great thing to do. I also encourage you to visit the Museum of Natural History.... it's fantastic. Museum of the City of New York is also pretty cool too. Empire State Building is a long game of hurry up and wait, but do it anyway... it's pretty cool. Those things are on the beaten path, but I say do it. Also, be sure to visit Ground Zero... and don't worry about it being too depressing. It's something everyone should see, I believe.

    If you are going to see any shows, I recommend going to some of the off-Broadway shows versus the big Broadway productions.... see what's playing at the Actor's Playhouse in the Village, Above Studio 54 in Midtown West, and the Orpheum on the Lower East Side. When I lived there, "Naked Boys Singing" was playing at the Actor's Playhouse... lotsa fun! I was also friends with one of the actors... icon_twisted.gificon_wink.gif

    If you like rock-n-roll, go to the Continental in the East Village on a Saturday night for good live music. If jazz is more your speed, Friday night at the Zinc Bar on Houston and LaGuardia.

    Have a great time, Puma84!
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    Apr 15, 2008 2:08 PM GMT
    SlackerJock saidBest Restaurant that will blow your mind and is not too expensive is

    Budakhan .......check out their website.


    Stay in Chelsea, always something goin on all hours of the day and nite.

    Take the subway to brooklyn and walk the bridge back to manhattan, you get some good pics of the statue of liberty that way. Takes about 10 minutes to walk the bridge. A must do experience.


    Just to let you know, Budakhan is orginally from Philly, as is Morimoto!

    Both excellent restaurants that are in NYC and Philly.
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    Apr 15, 2008 2:50 PM GMT
    As for bars, I like the Phoenix... great juke box and guys that aren't so predictable.
    For food , you have a lot of great choices.
    Mexican Radio is crazy good and not super expensive.
    Fred's on top of Barney's can be fun and good.. expensive

    I also love Marie's Crisis.
    Small piano bar in the village that is unlike anything I have ever seen.
    Just be prepared to sing or you will be the only one not participating.
    My favorite night was when a drunk Parker Posey led the bar in a rousing broadway sing a long.
    59 Grove St
    New York, NY 10014-3416
    Phone: (212) 243-9323
    "Friday nights bring sing-alongs geared toward broken hearts and lost dreams. Other nights, the bartender behind the little bar at the back will listen to your all of your woes, at least once he turns up his hearing aid." (citysearch)