So I am going back to the shrink...

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    Feb 04, 2011 7:27 AM GMT
    I am returning to therapy.I been out of therapy for 2 years. I been seeing a psychologist or therapist consistently since I was four so this was the longest stint without seeing somebody. I am so anxious I can't function well or sleep. I have had a depressed episode for around three months. Over the years, I was finally diagnosed as bipolar(Mixed Episodes mostly) but this is the longest, worst episode of depression and anxiety. So here are my questions:

    What medication is best for anxiety? Mood Swings? I am at the point of wanting to be decently numb so I can chill out again and be productive.

    I been making some excellent gains at the gym. Will the medication affect this? I want to keep up the good work but will it screw up my metabolism etc?

    Usually I am functioning well enough that I do not seek medication because of side effects and that most do not work with mixed episodes. I am kinda embarrassed to post this but most people in real life have no clue what I am dealing with and I try not to talk about it so that I can be taken seriously.

    Any dudes in the house who know their medications or effects?

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    Feb 04, 2011 12:19 PM GMT
    Bipolar requires its own proper medicines, the common anxiety ones may not be best for you.
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    Feb 04, 2011 3:33 PM GMT
    It's great you recognize the issue and are seeking professional help. I don't know about the medications but I'm guessing that as spring approaches and the days get longer, it will only help the depression some.

    Keep it going and keep up the workouts. Looking good. Good luck!
  • SoDakGuy

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    Feb 04, 2011 3:40 PM GMT
    Good for you!!

    I've been going to therapy off and on since I was 12 basically for low self esteem. Most recently was for the assaults that happened to me (Defended myself and won, thank you very much!) and getting hit by a truck (all in a week).

    I'm also on Wellbutrin and I'm so grateful to be on that!

    I need to go back as well and it does help so much to talk to someone who is a neutral yet still wants you to be the best you YOU can be.

    Keep it up, my friend!
  • monet

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    Feb 04, 2011 6:17 PM GMT
    I drink a lot of beer and smoke some dope. That seems to work best for me.
  • xKorix

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    Feb 04, 2011 6:21 PM GMT
    I used to have pretty bad anxiety all of my life and mild depression. The best thing I've done is to just feel my feelings, the sadness, shame, emptiness, depression, etc. whenever they come up, then they pass and never come back. There, problem solved. I feel a lot better than I ever have in my life and the more I feel, the more gets cleared out, so everyday I'm always getting a little better. I've found emotions and moods don't need be dealt with in a complicated way, in fact I've found the simpler the better. The body knows what it's doing and always wanting and striving for wholeness and balance. But yeah I'm only speaking from my experience though, some of you might be struggling with more than I did and we all need to find our way to health and happiness.
  • SoDakGuy

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    Feb 04, 2011 6:38 PM GMT
    monet saidI drink a lot of beer and smoke some dope. That seems to work best for me.


    Yeah, that's masking the pain.


    xKorix saidI used to have pretty bad anxiety all of my life and mild depression. The best thing I've done is to just feel my feelings, the sadness, shame, emptiness, depression, etc. whenever they come up, then they pass and never come back. There, problem solved. I feel a lot better than I ever have in my life and the more I feel, the more gets cleared out, so everyday I'm always getting a little better. I've found emotions and moods don't need be dealt with in a complicated way, in fact I've found the simpler the better. The body knows what it's doing and always wanting and striving for wholeness and balance. But yeah I'm only speaking from my experience though, some of you might be struggling with more than I did and we all need to find our way to health and happiness.


    Yeah, that's also masking the pain because you're pretty much suppressing your feelings. Talking it out is healthy. Yeah, it costs $$ but I'd rather have a tad bit broke and have a healthy mindset and outlook than have oodles of $$ and I'm fucked up in the head.
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    Feb 04, 2011 6:45 PM GMT
    I give you serious props!
    There is Nothing to be embarassed about! Many people, most of all men, feel weird about seeking outside assistance for things like this, but I think it takes a strong person to do it.
    I take Lamictal to treat my temporal lobe epilepsy; I understand it's also used for the treatment of bi-polar. I've found the lamictal to be helpful with the seizures, so maybe the same for you? Side effects have been nearly non-existant, which is more than I can say for other meds in the past..

    Effexor XR is also the best thing I've found for depression/anxiety. Everyone reacts differently to these drugs, so it might take a little trial & error to find the best drugs for you.
    Clonazepam is also effective for anxiety..
    Good Luck man!
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    Feb 04, 2011 6:49 PM GMT
    SoDakGuy saidYeah, that's also masking the pain because you're pretty much suppressing your feelings. Talking it out is healthy. Yeah, it costs $$ but I'd rather have a tad bit broke and have a healthy mindset and outlook than have oodles of $$ and I'm fucked up in the head.


    How am I masking my pain? I feel my feelings; if I feel sad I cry, if I get angry, I shout or write, I feel all my feelings fully, I let them come to the surface. I let myself feel terror, rage, depression etc. because that's how feelings are released, they have to be felt. How is that suppression or masking? Suppression or masking is NOT feeling or denying your feelings, which I do not do. If I'm feeling something I let myself go into it and feel it. I do talk about my feelings sometimes if it pertains to another person(If I felt they crossed a boundary with me or if I need to ask for something) or if I just feel confused by my feelings, but neither happens too often. I don't feel the need to tell everybody what I'm feeling 24/7 because I'm usually feeling okay, relaxed, content, etc. it doesn't feel necessary to talk about.
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    Feb 04, 2011 7:12 PM GMT
    SoDakGuy saidGood for you!!

    I've been going to therapy off and on since I was 12 basically for low self esteem. Most recently was for the assaults that happened to me (Defended myself and won, thank you very much!) and getting hit by a truck (all in a week).

    I'm also on Wellbutrin and I'm so grateful to be on that!

    I need to go back as well and it does help so much to talk to someone who is a neutral yet still wants you to be the best you YOU can be.

    Keep it up, my friend!


    Thanks for sharing your story! I have been dealing with this all my life and I can deal with it most of the time but life changes have been very hard for me to accept and I am not functioning well.
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    Feb 04, 2011 7:13 PM GMT
    EccentricStud saidI give you serious props!
    There is Nothing to be embarassed about! Many people, most of all men, feel weird about seeking outside assistance for things like this, but I think it takes a strong person to do it.
    I take Lamictal to treat my temporal lobe epilepsy; I understand it's also used for the treatment of bi-polar. I've found the lamictal to be helpful with the seizures, so maybe the same for you? Side effects have been nearly non-existant, which is more than I can say for other meds in the past..

    Effexor XR is also the best thing I've found for depression/anxiety. Everyone reacts differently to these drugs, so it might take a little trial & error to find the best drugs for you.
    Clonazepam is also effective for anxiety..
    Good Luck man!


    Lamictial and Effexor did not work for me...
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    Feb 04, 2011 7:25 PM GMT
    Besides the chemical/mood disorders, right now...summing up my life, I am acting in a movie and I have the wrong part. I do not fit the conventional gay scene yet despite being treated as "one of the guys" I been feeling more and more isolated from my bros lately. I commonly say I am not gay but bromosexual because I really do not identify with the conventional gay man. I have an agricultural science degree but due to not having the cash to do a major internship and other issues, I decided to pursue what I really love, Jewish Communal Service but that too is proving to be a challenge despite being a Jewish leader during undergrad. I also feel a huge amount of guilt because I do get alot of attention from guys, just never the kinda dudes that I find attractive and complement my personality. Despite my issues, I put my issues aside to help my students or to help my friends through a transition from college to adult life or be the dutiful son or the model employee.

    I dunno, maybe its chemical or seasonal but I feel that despite how much I continue to give of myself, it is never enough.

    I feel that despite going from 200lbs down to 140lbs then gaining muscle to be about 160lbs, that I am still not attractive enough to attract the type I work best with.

    Being a convert, I feel that my desire to serve the Jewish community and its needs is often futile because I do not have the connections or history to get a position. Despite straining relationships with my family and often alienating dudes due to my faith, sometimes I feel that I am paying the price for following my convictions.

    My friends are so consumed with getting married, graduate/law/medical school, or their own drama that I feel guilty saying that I am lonely, that I hate my job, that I am worried etc.

    LOL. So is this all bipolar/anxiety or is it legit?
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    Feb 04, 2011 7:49 PM GMT
    Would you say maybe that your overwhelming "issue" if you want to call it that, the thing that you think is causing all this, is that you somehow don't feel like you fit in anywhere? That you're different from everyone else around you? Even though you go about your daily life pretty normal and people who know you would be really surprised because they're probably thinking you're the most normal guy around?
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    Feb 04, 2011 11:22 PM GMT
    agri_sci said...So is this all bipolar/anxiety or is it legit?


    Diagnosis here is dangerous. See that shrink, dammit!

    There's some legitimacy to your anxieties. If there were no legitimacy to your anxieties you'd be in a different class of disorder altogether, but what you're expressing sounds plausible. A lack of ability to uncover a resolution--or deal with the lack constructively--is the hallmark of your disorder.

    The shrink will help you deal with the reasoning part of your issue, and the medication will help with the unbalanced swings of your issue.

    Likely will affect your workout motivation, though. So if you notice a profound behavioral change after beginning treatment, schedule a session to discuss dosage adjustments.
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    Feb 05, 2011 2:21 AM GMT
    My parents are the sole root of all of my psyciatric problems.

    I remember the day I told my farther I was being treated for depression. He laughed at me, told me if I was seeing a psyciatrist I should go on a talk show circut, and basically humilated me by airing my private medical issues to family friends via cruel jokes.

    My shrink taught me to identify situations of anxiety and stress and avoid them. Chronic stress, anxiety and insomnia depleates seratonin in the brain and leaves you cycling between on edge anxiety attacks and low depressive periods

    I also took lexapro (escilatopram) for a while after a really stressful time. It helps a lot, I still remember the first time I felt an attack coming along and nothing happened.
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    Feb 05, 2011 4:53 PM GMT
    I been in therapy for most of my life and we focused on identifying the root causes and how to remove myself so I can keep a stable mind. I excel at identifying issues and how to resolve them. The issue being is that my logic is totally at peace with all this, its the emotional aspect of my personality that struggles. I am always engaged in a maelstrom of a battle between my logic and my emotions. Logic always wins out but doesn't resolve the feelings and the physical symptoms. Its debilitating.

    As for feeling like an outsider, I did not have friends growing up... I am quite used to being the outsider. As much as it sucks, it provides me greater freedom. I went to the bars here in East Lansing with the Jewcrew and I was constantly getting free drinks and bear hugs from heterosexual male acquaintances. To them not am I not just a bro, but the one of the best ones out there. They kept saying how I changed their lives and that I was respected or even admired my lifestyle of quiet protest of conventionality. My female acquaintances had to tell quite a few girls to cool it because they kept going on and on about the cute guy with the yarmulke on. Why? They were really into me and struck by me. My female acquaintances had to break a few hearts last night because girls are really attracted to my energy, conviction and hey I am friggin cute when I have a few... I do not fit in and despite the pain it causes me, my facebook is covered with posts from people who I consider acquaintances but who consider me a close friend. Its great but at the same time, pedestals are cold and lonely.

    However, outside of my few close friends and confidants...most people have no clue what is going on. I am seen as a force of nature, constant energy, the rock of my friends and acquaintances but the scourge of those who cross me. I been told that there is some sort of mystique around me (hence why I pick up straight dudes lol) that everybody wants a piece of.....However they have no clue that in reality, I am not that person all the time.

    Mickey, I am going for my evaluation next week. I been diagnosed several times, always bipolar, always anxiety. Know my disease as a scientist has helped much but my logic is overloaded.

    I dunno you guys...I keep on getting encouragement even from the most casual of acquaintances....guy friends saying they wish they could look or act more like me....parents calling me because they are worried about their kids and that somehow I have some sort of effect on their kids that is positive. However despite all this...I feel very much alone, unattractive, failure and just the feeling I have had since a child....that this life doesn't fit right. My quest for this meaning has enriched my life with coming out at 14, converting to Judaism at 20 and I am thankful that my introspection has lead to such meaningful things. Still...This raging battle between my intellect and emotions needs to end.

    What kind of effects should I find at the gym for those who commented? Lack of drive? Losing mass? appetite?

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    Feb 05, 2011 8:02 PM GMT
    mickeytopogigio said
    agri_sci said...So is this all bipolar/anxiety or is it legit?


    Diagnosis here is dangerous. See that shrink, dammit!

    There's some legitimacy to your anxieties. If there were no legitimacy to your anxieties you'd be in a different class of disorder altogether, but what you're expressing sounds plausible. A lack of ability to uncover a resolution--or deal with the lack constructively--is the hallmark of your disorder.

    The shrink will help you deal with the reasoning part of your issue, and the medication will help with the unbalanced swings of your issue.

    Likely will affect your workout motivation, though. So if you notice a profound behavioral change after beginning treatment, schedule a session to discuss dosage adjustments.


    Ditto this message.

    Your doctor is your best source for this kind of advice.

    According to my doctor -

    Medications are prescribed on an individual and case-by-case basis. i.e. What is good for one is not necessarily good for another.

    Re: affecting the gym, the endorphins, etc. that are produced are definitely part of your eventual "cocktail". Make sure that your doctor knows that you exercise, how often and how hard. Regardless of your moods, you need to be consistent w/ your workout program so that you and your doctor can better understand the effects of any medication. IF your doctor doesn't ask or talk to you about this kind of stuff, change doctors!

    A couple of other side effects to note are sexual and sleep pattern problems. W/ any of the medications in these classes, you are likely to suffer one or both. i.e. Hard to get off and problems falling and/or staying asleep.

    Another topic that you can talk to your doctor about is a short and long-term plan. i.e. You might need a little help now but is it and when might it be possible to taper off and eventually quit the medications. This too differs by individual. The caveat here is that you need to definitely plan this w/ your doctor.

    Your doctor should be able to explain all of this.
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    Feb 06, 2011 2:33 PM GMT
    Confidence, my boy, Confidence! You have to be yourself, dude. Just be honest with yourself and own your emotions--of course this is easier said than done, right?

    The one thing that is worse than feeling sad/depressed/anxiety is not feeling anything at all--because that's when you knew you are dead. numbing your emotions with drugs is no way to live. Emotions are extremely important for both you physical well-being and mental health. So by for understanding (and accepting) your emotions as a vital aspect of your biological response system, then you are better able to rationalize your emotive state, find the underlining situation that has caused you to feel that particular way and just adapt to life. Overtime, you will come to recognize your emotions and allocate appropriate times to deal with them.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that you are highly concerned with pleasing others. I mean, having to constantly interact in a social environment, in this case heteronormativel dating scene, where you know by natural default you are only a marginal actor because of your sexual orientation must carry a heavy burden on your psyche--I'm sure you feel you can never truly relax and be yourself. You need to focus on you, not being best friends with people you consider your acquaintances. Because, in order to truly be a friend to anyone, you must first be a friend to yourself and accept you for who you are.

    Don't turn your back on your people--give the gay community a chance! I would recommend finding some type of gay-friendly recreational sports league or some local gay-friendly environment that would allow for the opportunity to meet other gay men with interests to yours. This would provide a platonic setting (not everything needs to be sexual) for you to meet some new people to combat the loneliness. You would be surprised how much the gay community diverts from the "conventional" gay stereotypes.


    You know straight men (just like women) can never give you what you want, so why waste the emotional energy. A friend once told me when I asked him why he also go for straight guys, "because I hate myself obviously". Aside from the melodrama, he explained that he went for straight guys, who were totally cool with gay men but just not gay, because every time he knew that it would never work out in the back of his mind. I was shocked by his honesty and naturally asked, "so you just set yourself up for failure!--why?" He replied, "I told you, because I hate myself.

    Oh and on the topic of unsolicited attention from the opposite sex: I would just take it as a compliment and leave it at that. We all have a tendency over analyze any type of flirtation, especially if it unwanted. However, once you realize it's just all fun and games, then you can just have fun --as long as you don't have any malice towards anyone.

    I definitely empathize with you though. Being in those (awkward, terrifying and exciting) limbo years post-college and emerging adulthood myself, I can tell you it is not an easy transition at all. Sometimes I feel like I am on the verge of going insane. With that said, you are doing a good thing seeking professional help again. If anything it will lend a different perspective.

    I wish we could speak some more about this, but how much more can you bare in a public forum--that's why the shrinks get paid the big bucks, right. Good luck and god's speed, the worst is already over. Here a Good Luck Charm for you: I once read something on a popsicle stick that really struck me: "Be yourself, because everybody else is taken." It was definitely worth at least a therapy sesh or two.


    Most importantly, the glass is always half full.
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    Feb 06, 2011 2:37 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]agri_sci said[/cite]I am returning to therapy.I been out of therapy for 2 years. I been seeing a psychologist or therapist consistently since I was four so this was the longest stint without seeing somebody. I am so anxious I can't function well or sleep. I have had a depressed episode for around three months. Over the years, I was finally diagnosed as bipolar(Mixed Episodes mostly) but this is the longest, worst episode of depression and anxiety. So here are my questions:

    What medication is best for anxiety? Mood Swings? I am at the point of wanting to be decently numb so I can chill out again and be productive.

    I been making some excellent gains at the gym. Will the medication affect this? I want to keep up the good work but will it screw up my metabolism etc?

    Usually I am functioning well enough that I do not seek medication because of side effects and that most do not work with mixed episodes. I am kinda embarrassed to post this but most people in real life have no clue what I am dealing with and I try not to talk about it so that I can be taken seriously.

    Any dudes in the house who know their medications or effects?

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    Zoloft and/or Prozac works for me like a charm.
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    Feb 06, 2011 2:50 PM GMT
    I am absolutely uneducated on disorders like you suffer from. I'm glad you are continuing to follow steps that will make your life as healthful and happy as possible. I know you to be a stand up guy on here and we certainly wish you the best! Take the steps and be well!

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    Feb 06, 2011 2:58 PM GMT
    Good on you for making the effort to deal with what you've got goin on mate

    In my experience the only thing that might help you is to truly follow your heart and find what truly makes you happy - cliche' I know and yes easier said than done.

    I can only comment based on my experience. For me its meant a complete change in career, interests, and a semi-permanent move to the other side of the world and its taken me alot of heartbreak, 6 jobs and 7 years to get to that point. For you it may mean re-assessing what is working and what is not? What makes you truly happy and what doesnt? What is your dream in life (not everyone elses). You might have to make other people unhappy in the process and you should be prepared for that.

    I'm sure you've done this and been over this time and time again and your therapist will help - yet its something that continually needs to be reassessed as our circumstances change. Nothing wrong with admitting something hasn't worked either - we all Fuck Up once in a while!

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    Best to you mate!

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    Feb 06, 2011 9:22 PM GMT
    Marty5 saidConfidence, my boy, Confidence! You have to be yourself, dude. Just be honest with yourself and own your emotions--of course this is easier said than done, right?

    I am incredibly honest and confident. I am honest about my emotions, I just dont always see them as a big deal.

    The one thing that is worse than feeling sad/depressed/anxiety is not feeling anything at all--because that's when you knew you are dead. numbing your emotions with drugs is no way to live. Emotions are extremely important for both you physical well-being and mental health. So by for understanding (and accepting) your emotions as a vital aspect of your biological response system, then you are better able to rationalize your emotive state, find the underlining situation that has caused you to feel that particular way and just adapt to life. Overtime, you will come to recognize your emotions and allocate appropriate times to deal with them.

    I understand this my friend, but I prefer productivity rather than be mired down

    Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that you are highly concerned with pleasing others. I mean, having to constantly interact in a social environment, in this case heteronormativel dating scene, where you know by natural default you are only a marginal actor because of your sexual orientation must carry a heavy burden on your psyche--I'm sure you feel you can never truly relax and be yourself. You need to focus on you, not being best friends with people you consider your acquaintances. Because, in order to truly be a friend to anyone, you must first be a friend to yourself and accept you for who you are.

    Not a people pleaser here. I get into many altercations. My issues is that too many people around me need me and I am always the first to voluenteer. As for being myself, dude...I am known as that Gay Jewish dude, quote enquote. My being gay is not something suppressed or anything. I really am a bro and most of the conflict is again internal. I am unusually hard on myself because of my dedication to ethics.

    Don't turn your back on your people--give the gay community a chance! I would recommend finding some type of gay-friendly recreational sports league or some local gay-friendly environment that would allow for the opportunity to meet other gay men with interests to yours. This would provide a platonic setting (not everything needs to be sexual) for you to meet some new people to combat the loneliness. You would be surprised how much the gay community diverts from the "conventional" gay stereotypes.

    There are not those kind of things here. I plan on moving to a bigger city but even then... I would prefer platonic gay friends because I am at the point where I feel that I am better off single in the long term, not FOREVER but for a couple of years.


    You know straight men (just like women) can never give you what you want, so why waste the emotional energy. A friend once told me when I asked him why he also go for straight guys, "because I hate myself obviously". Aside from the melodrama, he explained that he went for straight guys, who were totally cool with gay men but just not gay, because every time he knew that it would never work out in the back of his mind. I was shocked by his honesty and naturally asked, "so you just set yourself up for failure!--why?" He replied, "I told you, because I hate myself.

    I really tire of gay men telling me these things. I just prefer the company of straight men. With a few exceptions, I pretty much HATE women and avoid contact with most of them beyond business. I hang with straight guys because they assume nothing, are not emotional and we share interests. Its pretty much platonic. I don't get emotionally involved often...

    Oh and on the topic of unsolicited attention from the opposite sex: I would just take it as a compliment and leave it at that. We all have a tendency over analyze any type of flirtation, especially if it unwanted. However, once you realize it's just all fun and games, then you can just have fun --as long as you don't have any malice towards anyone.

    No malice. Just annoyed because once again, I feel guilty because I get the attention my bros would die to have.

    I definitely empathize with you though. Being in those (awkward, terrifying and exciting) limbo years post-college and emerging adulthood myself, I can tell you it is not an easy transition at all. Sometimes I feel like I am on the verge of going insane. With that said, you are doing a good thing seeking professional help again. If anything it will lend a different perspective.

    I wish we could speak some more about this, but how much more can you bare in a public forum--that's why the shrinks get paid the big bucks, right. Good luck and god's speed, the worst is already over. Here a Good Luck Charm for you: I once read something on a popsicle stick that really struck me: "Be yourself, because everybody else is taken." It was definitely worth at least a therapy sesh or two.

    I am always myself...frankly I am frustrated that I continually get advice or told I am playing some kinda part because I have no real desire to be a part of the gay community. For me, being gay is something I am open about but am rather private about. Its my business. I really appreciate the time you and others have spent on reading and reflecting but since you aren't acquainted with me personally, your advice is rather off. I am overtly confident with myself and very self aware. The issue is that I keep being told the same and pardon my French "bullshit" answers. I am not ashamed or hiding or anything like that. What my issue is that nobody gets a masculine dude that is out that is also religious and socially/economically conservative.I am nicked named OXY...for oxymoron. What I need to find are dudes like me, straight dudes trapped in a gay experience, as my mother said.

    Most importantly, the glass is always half full.
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    Feb 07, 2011 2:09 AM GMT
    Bi-polar is like any other mental condition...each person will have varying degrees of it, and it can only be treated on a case-by-case basis.

    That said, asking the forums is not going to give you the correct answer, because nobody knows your specific needs.

    My suggestion is to advise your therapist of your fitness goals beforehand so (s)he can prescribe something that will not de-motivate you.

    Before filling your prescription, be sure to google it and see what kind of side-effects it may have that your therapist didn't mention.
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    Feb 07, 2011 2:10 AM GMT
    Marty5 saidMost importantly, the glass is always half full.
    Air is a fluid. The glass is always full.
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    Feb 07, 2011 7:07 PM GMT
    to echo some other advice here, there is NO way in seven sundays anyone can recommend meds for you except your shrink. Each body, and mind is different and handles meds differently for different illnesses...

    I have been on different a/d's for about 20 years now, and have had to change or modify them as time goes by, but none of them have affected my ability to perform in the gym, other than my own laziness. Take the advice, see your shrink and FOLLOW his script...........and good thoughts to you, brother. Realize you have an illness no different from any chronic condition...sometimes we just need to deal with them........all my best.Keithicon_wink.gif