What do you think is the PERCENTAGE of non-str8s in the world population?

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    Feb 06, 2011 10:05 AM GMT
    Although no one can scientifically prove your answer, what do you think?
    Though I cannot prove this, I believe 15-20% of the human population is not heterosexual. But that's just me.
    However, sexual orientation changes in some people throughout their lifetimes.
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    Feb 06, 2011 10:57 AM GMT
    I can't make even an educated guess because there's more acceptance towards experimenting with the same sex today, but that doesn't necessarily mean the person is gay or even part gay.
  • starboard5

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    Feb 06, 2011 3:18 PM GMT
    2-4% is a realistic estimate.
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    Feb 06, 2011 4:59 PM GMT
    50%

    I'm not kidding. You're fooling yourself if you think 90-98% of the population is str8.
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    Feb 06, 2011 5:01 PM GMT
    World population, not a clue. In the U.S., supposedly 10-15%, but that might be inaccurate.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Feb 06, 2011 5:01 PM GMT
    I think maybe 10% are gay, 40% are curious
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    Feb 06, 2011 5:06 PM GMT
    serioushat saidAlthough no one can scientifically prove your answer, what do you think?
    Though I cannot prove this, I believe 15-20% of the human population is not heterosexual. But that's just me.
    However, sexual orientation changes in some people throughout their lifetimes.


    i actually believe it's closer to 50% because so many are still in the closet. A lot of guys don't want to tell anyone that they are not totally str8.
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    Feb 06, 2011 5:08 PM GMT
    If guys didn't lie, I bet over 50% have had sexual relations with a guy. A lot are lying. lol
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    Feb 06, 2011 5:11 PM GMT
    wrestlervic said50%

    I'm not kidding. You're fooling yourself if you think 90-98% of the population is str8.


    i would definitely agree with you because some of my "str8" friends have told me. icon_smile.gif
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    Feb 06, 2011 5:12 PM GMT
    A fabulous percentage of people in this world are non-straight.
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    Feb 06, 2011 5:16 PM GMT
    wrestlervic said50%

    I'm not kidding. You're fooling yourself if you think 90-98% of the population is str8.


    Totally...if they were truly honest with themselves. I don't think there is a straight guy that wouldn't get with at least that one dude...you know the one at the gym; seams cool as hell and has the body sculptures envy.
  • SurfInVa

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    Feb 06, 2011 5:28 PM GMT
    When I was in the US Navy and stationed in Great Lakes, IL, I went to speak to the on-base chaplin. I was 18, hot and horny ( still am...well not 18 ), and having issues with being into guys and had no idea it was going to be so hard to not act on it with all the nudity and goofing off with sexual overtones and actually being propostioned quite a bit and thinking I was being setup in sting ops to oust gays or bis from the military. I am not a religious person at all, spiritual probably better defines it, but the chaplin seemed to be the only person I could talk to that was basically required to keep my shit to himself lol.

    We had our talk and I soon found out that not only was he a devout Christian, but also career military with about 20+ years of service and a 4-star general, as well as a genetics scientist. After about 2 hours of talking back and forth, he complimented me for having such deep and meaningful thoughts for my age and he told me that he wanted to share something with me and joked that if I ever told anyone he said it, he would consider it a break of confidence. Of course, he meant if I told his name in the telling, therefore, I am cleared to share this now.

    He said that based on his years of counseling young men and women, gay, straight, bi, etc and with his scientific background and studies and collaboration with other scientists in his field and related ones, it was a common "opinion" that our sexuality is genetically predetermined. In addition (remember that this is a Bible thumpin' Christian chaplin) it is of common opinion that 90% of the population is born bisexual BUT with a predominance to lean either towards heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual. And that, 5% are born to be completely heterosexual and 5% born to be completely homosexual. He also said that it was of common agreement that environment or rearing techniques or life experiences played little part, if any, in the sexuality determination. But, that marriage counselors, school counselors, certain mental health field professionals, religious counselors and advocates, find it an easy explaination to blame those 'factors" since genetic predetermination has yet to be proven with 100% assurance.

    I was fascinated by this converstaion, especially with him being so candid in that no matter all he'd been through and his taught beliefs he STILL opted to THINK FOR HIMSELF (something that few people seem to be able to do) and throughout my life I have kept this in the back of my mind. I have met ALOT of people in my life and his (and his colleagues) opinion seems to still hit right on target to this day...at least in my life experiences. ;-)
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    Feb 06, 2011 5:42 PM GMT
    I love all of the wishful overestimating here! (I too wish there were more as well.) But alas, according to the most recent psychological studies, 3-5% of males are gay/bisexual and 2-4% of women are as well.
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    Feb 06, 2011 5:45 PM GMT
    starboard5 said2-4% is a realistic estimate.


    That is closer to the percent of the male population openly gay and unable to hide their sexuality. I've looked at several studies and found many interesting connections between the percent of the population and the way in which the studies were taken. If you ask people randomly on the street if they are gay you would find less than 2% and possibly as high as 4% in a large metro area. If you really want to dig down and understand sexuality the percentage becomes very expandable. You would find that 50% of self identified straight swingers engage in homosexuality at some point while swinging. These men are as straight as many gay married men are gay. In a highly sexual situation they may experiment. Some, if they divorced or were single could flirt with bisexuality. I know as I have met many of these men.

    If, however, you are in a culture which is sexually repressive you would find most people conform to the idea that sex without procreation is bad and don't have much sex period. The asexual people in the population all identify as straight but is that fair? If you are not sexually active should you be included in a sex study?

    Some people assume a higher percentage in urban areas but this is also flawed. The idea is that urban areas attract homosexuals. Urban areas also attract heterosexuals. What is clear is that urban areas make it easier for homosexuals to be out and honest about their feelings. I read about one study of high school kids. In rural areas 2 to 4% said they were gay or questioning their sexuality. In San Fran that figure rose to something like 18%. Presumably High School kids don't move as they live with their parents. That study shows that the more accepting the culture is the more likely people are going to tell the truth.

    The Kinsey study has been dismissed by many in our heterocentric society because his numbers are too high. It is the only study I have found that tried to get to bottom of what people truly felt and crack through the taboo. The way I see it is we all have a hetero and homo erotic element to our sexuality . For homosexuals the homo erotic is far more developed than the hetero erotic element. I still have an occasional dream of fucking a woman but I never actually have and don't think I ever will. There is so much going on with sexuality that it is difficult to put in a stat.

    If, however, you want to know what percent of the population are eligible well adjusted datable gay or bi men, 2 to 4% would be generous.
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    Feb 06, 2011 6:02 PM GMT
    5%-6%
  • MSUBioNerd

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    Feb 06, 2011 6:08 PM GMT
    5%, fairly realistically. 2% seems to be roughly the open and unable to hide, and there's of course a certain percentage of bi folks who round themselves off to straight because it's easier, but the fantasies that most anyone would be interested in either sex is....a fantasy. Kinsey's studies were deeply flawed by relying heavily on reporting of sexual behavior by men in prisons, where they had the option of gay or none. When given the choice, most guys will pick women.
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    Feb 06, 2011 6:09 PM GMT

    Actually last time I checked, it was said that 30% of all children born in the United States will be gay come puberty. There are much less bisexuals than gays...not including the people who claim to be bi because its popular.

    Im not sure of the year that number was calculated, but considering the number of members of the most popular dating sites, hookup sites, porn stars, and focus groups, it has to be at LEAST 30%.
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    Feb 06, 2011 6:22 PM GMT
    I just joined today and although I haven’t looked, I’m probably the oldest geezer on here so with that come some experience. I was always athletic and involved in team sports and way back in the day, before the APA in 1973 stated that homosexuality wasn’t a disease or sickness and before the gender equality movement eliminated nude swimming at the YMCA and your local high school swimming pool there were almost 100% of the guys ‘fooling around’ with other guys. Some of was due to the fact that girls wouldn’t ‘give’ until marriage for the most part so the guys felt they had to relieve some pent up tension and why do it all by yourself? It’s like a primitive version of paint ball – shoot at each other. In hindsight, none of these guys I messed around with ended up living a life as a gay to the best of my knowledge. So without the label ‘homosexual’ commonly known, just about everyone fooled around and engaged in homoerotic behavior. Once we had a label for it most of the stuff stopped. Sad.

    I work out with a bunch of younger straight guys and I’m pretty open about the past and my past and once I really open up so do they. Seems like most of this stuff has stopped in the mid to late 70s. They’re all pretty shocked to hear what went on. Seems from what I’m told that schools do everything they can to make sure there isn’t the opportunity for anything like that to happen these days.

    So without labels for certain behavior pretty much everyone is quite capable of being somewhat naughty. icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 06, 2011 7:50 PM GMT
    ^^ well you're def not the oldest, we have guys in their 70s here. About how much of the world pop is not straight? imho 100%.....we all have a little bit of the rainbow in us..........................Keithicon_wink.gif
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    Feb 06, 2011 7:52 PM GMT
    serioushat said
    However, sexual orientation changes in some people throughout their lifetimes.


    This. Pretty sure this happened to me. At any rate, It'd be hard to quantify for this very same reason.
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    Feb 06, 2011 8:29 PM GMT
    Not sure about the world population, but the most recent reliable and representative data I could find for the U.S. comes from a 2000 twin and non-twin sibling study. Of the 1,806 sibliing pairs studied, the self-reported prevalence of non-heterosexual sexual orientation was 2.6%.

    Of course, rates of self-reporting of homosexuality have increased in the intervening 10 years, although non-disclosures and being on the "down low" persist. Additional information on demographics of homosexuality is compiled here.



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    Feb 06, 2011 9:21 PM GMT
    wrestlervic said50%

    I'm not kidding. You're fooling yourself if you think 90-98% of the population is str8.


    yeah I agree, maybe not quite 50% but i think it's getting there.
    I've lived all over the u.k and even in small villages in cornwall there seems to be a decent number of 'non-heterosexual' people.

    We all need to agglomerate and vote in a gay/bi government! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 07, 2011 12:00 AM GMT
    6%
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    Feb 07, 2011 5:36 AM GMT
    MSUBioNerd said5%, fairly realistically. 2% seems to be roughly the open and unable to hide, and there's of course a certain percentage of bi folks who round themselves off to straight because it's easier, but the fantasies that most anyone would be interested in either sex is....a fantasy. Kinsey's studies were deeply flawed by relying heavily on reporting of sexual behavior by men in prisons, where they had the option of gay or none. When given the choice, most guys will pick women.


    You've been reading too much hetero centric reports. The study has been done more than once and they eliminated the prisoners. Moreover Kinsey estimated 5% were exclusively homosexual not 10%.

    http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/publications/duberman.html

    Jones repeats most of the longstanding critique of Kinsey: "For all his posturing and bluster, Kinsey was chronically unsure of himself as a statistician.... his sample was far from random," etc. But we are not told that Paul Gebhard (one of Kinsey's co-authors and his successor as director of the Kinsey Institute for Sex Research -- he retired in 1982), himself reacting to criticism leveled against the two volumes, spent years "cleaning" the Kinsey data of its purported contaminants -- removing, for example, all material derived from prison populations in the basic sample. In 1979, Gebhard, with Alan Johnson, published The Kinsey Data, and -- to his own surprise -- found that Kinsey's original estimates held: Instead of Kinsey's 37 percent, Gebhard and Johnson came up with 36.4 percent; the 10 percent figure (with prison inmates excluded) came to 9.9 percent for white, college-educated males and 12.7 percent for those with less education. And as for the call for a "random sample," a team of independent statisticians studying Kinsey's procedures had concluded as far back as 1953 that the unique problems inherent in sex research precluded the possibility of obtaining a true random sample, and that Kinsey's interviewing technique had been "extraordinarily skillful." They characterized Kinsey's work overall as "a monumental endeavor."
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    Feb 07, 2011 5:38 AM GMT
    Not enough...