Christian Arsonist Destroys Gay Couples Home In North Carolina

  • metta

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    Feb 06, 2011 7:28 PM GMT
    Christian Arsonist Destroys Gay Couples Home In North Carolina


    http://www.thegaymanifesto.com/2011/02/06/christian-arsonist-destroys-gay-couples-home-in-north-carolina/
  • tazzari

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    Feb 06, 2011 7:51 PM GMT
    The violence really kicks in when they sense that they've lost. And it speeds up the process.
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    Feb 06, 2011 9:41 PM GMT
    An act of terrorism - no different to other extremist groups preaching hate!
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    Feb 06, 2011 10:21 PM GMT
    it doesn't look like they were acting like Christians with a criminal record icon_sad.gif
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    Feb 07, 2011 1:13 AM GMT
    jockgymboy saidit doesn't look like they were acting like Christians with a criminal record icon_sad.gif






    Good point !!!



    Seems to me that when preaching homosexuals should be killed according to their bible, they totally ignore teaching their parishoners that the whole bible is there to teach christians to be "CHRIST LIKE". Now that's a revolutionary thought isn't it !!!! LOL !!!!


    I'd like these same preachers to consider that Jesus probably healed the Roman Centurians homosexual servant lover. His 'Pais', Oh how they hate to hear that one !!!! ha ha !!! the truth is indeed hard to take, but I've read several bible scholars who wrote that this is admittedly a very strong possibility.
  • GQjock

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    Feb 07, 2011 1:20 AM GMT
    Funny thing is .....

    when it's done by a foreigner or a "non"-christian
    it's terrorism
    and America goes ape-sh*t crazy

    but when it happens to a gay couple
    or say when a shrapnel-laden bomb is left at a Martin Luther King parade route .... it's just another slow news day

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    Feb 07, 2011 10:33 AM GMT
    I like the article that you linked to. Is it safe to assume that thegaymanifesto is a little biased against Christians in the rest of their reporting as well?

    The article that they got all of their rhetoric from:
    http://www.digtriad.com/news/most_popular/article.aspx?storyid=160099&provider=top
    That article does not mention the word "Christian" once... it does not mention the bible or churches. The manifesto seems to have decided that was the cause and went on for paragraphs about it.

    Again, I know that people will point out that it was "most likely" a "Christian" being as it is the south. Really, there is what, statistically a 50% chance that if it is an American they will also be a self identified Christian? I will not even argue it- it likely was a self proclaimed Christian (but I would like to wait until we know the reasons... you don't have to be Christian to hate gays.)

    I guess that I would have preferred a link to the original article rather than the one that speculates who it is when, according to the sheriff there is no suspect as of yet. The article you linked to sure makes it sound like they know exactly who is behind it, that it was a Christian, and that they were influenced by the hatred preached in the pulpit. I still like balance and truth over speculation.
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    Feb 07, 2011 10:47 AM GMT
    More biased, pseudo-journalistic tripe from that loony-bin site. There was no evidence that Christians were responsible. Could be any sort of homophobes. While it is most likely it was Christians of some sort (not authorized by a church, we're talking about churches, not mosques here), no group has claimed responsibility, and it is bad practice to blame a group before an investigation reveals who is responsible, or someone admits to it.
  • bad_wolf

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    Feb 07, 2011 11:22 AM GMT
    Burn down their house and screw this whole an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, it's clear they're not seeing reason as it is. *head butts a wall*.
  • GQjock

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    Feb 07, 2011 11:53 AM GMT
    FearTheFall saidMore biased, pseudo-journalistic tripe from that loony-bin site. There was no evidence that Christians were responsible. Could be any sort of homophobes. While it is most likely it was Christians of some sort (not authorized by a church, we're talking about churches, not mosques here), no group has claimed responsibility, and it is bad practice to blame a group before an investigation reveals who is responsible, or someone admits to it.


    Do you think the FBI will be targeting Muslim extremists in their investigation?
    Or are they going to go straight to the Christian hate groups that are very active in the area? A toss up, I know
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    Feb 07, 2011 12:15 PM GMT
    I don't care what people say about violence but those people deserve to beaten and put up in jail to be raped. Anybody who first commits an act of violence should be ready to get the same on him or her.
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    Feb 07, 2011 1:43 PM GMT
    west77 saidI like the article that you linked to. Is it safe to assume that thegaymanifesto is a little biased against Christians in the rest of their reporting as well?

    The article that they got all of their rhetoric from:
    http://gayinternetradiolive.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=253:stephen-qdj-grindq-massey-san-francisco-ca&catid=13:gay-days-dj-contestants-2011&Itemid=64

    That article does not mention the word "Christian" once... it does not mention the bible or churches. The manifesto seems to have decided that was the cause and went on for paragraphs about it.

    You are correct! The article you reference has ALL to do about fellow RJr Stephen Massey! And no, him DJing in SF has nothing to do with the word 'christian'..
    You might want to correct your source information before pounding thine chest.
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    Feb 07, 2011 2:22 PM GMT
    Alright, that is sort of funny. I really should not be multi tasking on RJ... it usually does not work out very well. I had been reading another thread on RJ about the DJ and apparently copied a link and pasted it instead of what I had wanted to. With any luck, this will be the biggest mistake I make this week due to my inattention.icon_lol.gif
    The link that I had wanted to use was actually the one cited in the piece from the manifesto site, and I will edit my first post accordingly.
    http://www.digtriad.com/news/most_popular/article.aspx?storyid=160099&provider=top

    Having said that, I was quite correct in my assertions. The site about the DJ did not mention the bible, Christians or churches and did not say that any suspect had been identified.icon_razz.gif

  • BoostToChase

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    Feb 07, 2011 2:22 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidYou are correct! The article you reference has ALL to do about fellow RJr Stephen Massey! And no, him DJing in SF has nothing to do with the word 'christian'..
    You might want to correct your source information before pounding thine chest.


    Haha.

    He's right though. I expected to see the police have identified suspects or that someone claimed of responsibility. It all sounds like here say. The article has a straw man argument going. They shifted the focus from the arson to the fact that churches in the south advocate LGBT hate. Its an easy mistake for bloggers to make; or for the more sinister, a subtle message that can be slipped in without much notice.

    I found this funny on their homepage:
    Website said
    "Report Christian Terror Activity

    Report christian terror activity in your area directly to the FBI Terrorism Tips Line or call the FBI at 1-800-225-5324.

    Do not contact your local law enforcement agencies. As was demonstrated with the christian klan many times local law enforcement officers are members of the terror group."


    I'm absolutely against hypocrite Christians just as much as the next guy. This area certainly has its share. However, I'd hope for better facts when the situation involves a home now burnt to a crisp and the very very good possibility of it being a hate crime.

    Does anyone plan to donate money to this couple to help recover? I may, but I'm just not sure yet. I guess it depends on how easy it is to donate a little cash their way.
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    Feb 07, 2011 10:55 PM GMT
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    I found this funny on their homepage:
    Website said
    "Report Christian Terror Activity

    Report christian terror activity in your area directly to the FBI Terrorism Tips Line or call the FBI at 1-800-225-5324.

    Do not contact your local law enforcement agencies. As was demonstrated with the christian klan many times local law enforcement officers are members of the terror group."


    I'm absolutely against hypocrite Christians just as much as the next guy. This area certainly has its share. However, I'd hope for better facts when the situation involves a home now burnt to a crisp and the very very good possibility of it being a hate crime.

    Does anyone plan to donate money to this couple to help recover? I may, but I'm just not sure yet. I guess it depends on how easy it is to donate a little cash their way.


    I bet their readers would whine about it not being PC if there were equal coverage of Islamic terror activity - for those who don't know, Islam is the religion that hangs gay people when it is given governmental authority.
  • sportsjockla

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    Feb 07, 2011 11:02 PM GMT
    They are no different then al qaeda. Christian terrorists!
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    Feb 07, 2011 11:06 PM GMT
    Another band of hypocritical christian idiots, funny thing is the most hateful people I know around my area are christians, what a joke.
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    Feb 07, 2011 11:31 PM GMT
    Having read a few articles on this I would hope the neighbors rally around the couple. It seemed they were all horrified and very sympathetic but were also scared. SCARED fuck that! You move out to the boonies to be SCARED! Don't get scared get even!
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    Feb 07, 2011 11:50 PM GMT
    sportsjockla saidThey are no different then al qaeda. Christian terrorists!



    UtahCapita saidAnother band of hypocritical christian idiots, funny thing is the most hateful people I know around my area are christians, what a joke.


    As West77 pointed out, there is NO indication from the comments of the investigators that this was a Christian group at all. This website has done a disservice to reporting or at best, piss poor reporting if they know for a fact it was Christians and did not indicate a source for that! You guys need to back off and take a deep breath before you start accusing anyone. Wait until someone comes up with an official notice on who is suspected then make your accusations.

    Additionally, not ALL Christians behave like some of the radical looney tunes that we read about so don't lump them all together. You're the first to bitch when gays are all lumped together as flag totting, lisp speaking, high heel wearing fems so why would you do the same to any other group?

    There are a lot of Christians who, despite the churches official policy, have NO ill feelings about gays. They are not a 'one size fits all' group anymore than anyone else!
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    Feb 07, 2011 11:57 PM GMT
    I live about 20 minutes from where this happened. Here is the latest article from our local station.
    http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/9071284/
  • xher

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    Feb 08, 2011 6:12 AM GMT
    Seems unlikely that the guy who did it wasn't a Christian, assuming they didn't set it on fire themselves for insurance money (disclaimer: can never be too trusting)
  • musclmed

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    Feb 08, 2011 8:16 AM GMT
    well its a horrific act.

    the gay manifesto site again is interesting in that it seems to unite extreme of right and left. An odd marriage.

    I may just build myself a bunker.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 12, 2011 9:51 PM GMT
    This is disgusting. What right did these narrow-minded, bible thumping screwballs have in trespassing on someones property and setting the house ablaze. This is just another act of domestic terrorism and hopefully these homophobic idiots are caught and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
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    Feb 12, 2011 11:17 PM GMT
    Sorry, but people who call themselves Christian and yet behave this way is enough proof that they are not Christians at all.

    They justify their actions by claiming a verse in Leviticus that "if a man lie with mankind as with a woman, he must be put to death, they are an abomination to the Lord."

    But so is constantly arguing with your parents is also a crime punishable with death. There are many more similar crimes mentioned in the Old Testament which result in stoning. Breaking the Sabbath is one of them, even with an apparently minor issue as gathering sticks.

    Yet we read incidents like that found in 2 Samuel 4. Recab and Baanah wanted a reward from the newly-crowned King David for (what they thought was) bestowing him special honour by cowardly murdering Ish-Bosheth, the son of rival King Saul. What a shock they must have felt when David sentenced them to death instead!

    So these "Christians" will receive the same judgement from Christ for burning down that house. Jesus himself warned:

    Not everyone who says unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven but he who does the will of my Father who is in Heaven. For many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? Then I will profess unto them, I never knew you. Depart from me all ye who work iniquity.

    Although I can't play the judge here (only God can do that), I have that feeling that people like Fred Phelps and all who misrepresent God in the way he does will be shocked to the core on judgement day. This crowd will include those who burned down that house, along with those who were involved with the Klu Klax Klan. Right at the time they are confident to receive the Crown of Life, instead the door of heaven will slam shut in their faces.

    Jesus Christ came to Earth to fulfill the Law (not abolish them). With the Law fulfilled the door of Heaven is open to everyone who calls on Jesus Christ to save them. And this should be the message the churches should deliver, and not play the judge on other people's lives.



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    Feb 12, 2011 11:25 PM GMT
    This really bugs me because people like that are psycho and shouldn't be able to claim their actions are in the name of Christianity, because they aren't. The bible in no way gives anyone the right to act out what they think God's will is. It teaches acceptance and non-judgement, not persecution and hate. These people are disgusting and will be in for a rude awakening when they die and expect to be up in heaven and aren't...