Does Depression and Being Gay go hand in hand

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    Feb 06, 2011 11:00 PM GMT
    maybe we're all a bit fucked up from growing up in this homophoebic society...but how many of you suffer or suffered from Depression? Do you think there is a link to your sexuality?...................Keithicon_question.gif
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    Feb 06, 2011 11:11 PM GMT
    And the fact that the overwhelming majority of us will undoubtedly have subconsciously been indoctrinated, to varying extents, with negative connotations associated with homosexuality and vice versa for hetero. A lot of sub-surface self-loathing/pity/alienation/disenfranchisement.... Not convinced? Test yourself:

    https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/research/

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    Feb 06, 2011 11:14 PM GMT
    I cashed in my crippling depression for artistic eccentricity. Now instead of labeling myself as sad I just tell myself I'm misunderstood by the bourgeois masses!
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    Feb 06, 2011 11:16 PM GMT
    Ariodante saidI cashed in my crippling depression for artistic eccentricity. Now instead of labeling myself as sad I just tell myself I'm misunderstood by the bourgeois masses!



    I'm sure the proletariat are on your same wavelength however ;]
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    Feb 06, 2011 11:17 PM GMT
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    Ariodante saidI cashed in my crippling depression for artistic eccentricity. Now instead of labeling myself as sad I just tell myself I'm misunderstood by the bourgeois masses!



    I'm sure the proletariat are on your same wavelength however ;]


    nah I don't touch those mofos
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    Feb 07, 2011 12:31 AM GMT
    It's a great selling point for your art: Tortured, gay artist!



    I'd been diagnosed bipolar years ago, but I don't think my periods of depression are linked to my being gay. Maybe genetically they're linked, but I don't see it.
    My periods of mania have a good outlet in the gay world. I go out and slut around. Fun times.

    I got myself of meds by getting my dogs. Who has time to be depressed when there's two big happy dogs just itching to go for a walk?
  • starboard5

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    Feb 07, 2011 2:51 AM GMT
    yourname2000 saidSure...I think the link is loneliness. I think gays in our society are more likely to feel isolated than straights.

    So, not a direct quid pro quo, but I think very much related.


    Agreed
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    Feb 07, 2011 2:55 AM GMT
    Well about 6 months after I came out of the closet I got on an anti-depressent and feeling so much better.

    Was it due to coming out that I needed the pill, I don't think so, but with everything else going on in my life it has made things so much better.

    It would be interesting to see a study on it and what it shows. I'm sure the gay socitety has a higher percentage of people diagnosed with depression. Again we are special.
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    Feb 07, 2011 3:01 AM GMT
    I think it really depends on the person and their mindset.
  • disasterpiece

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    Feb 07, 2011 5:00 AM GMT
    No.

    I think depression and the 21st century go hand in hand.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Feb 07, 2011 5:05 AM GMT
    No, but I wasn't into guys until my early 30's. Also having a very large, loving, close Italian family helps I'm sure.
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    Feb 07, 2011 5:08 AM GMT
    A meta-analysis study from 2008 had the following results:

    "1) A two fold excess in suicide attempts in lesbian, gay and bisexual people [pooled risk ratio for lifetime risk 2.47]
    2) The risk for depression and anxiety disorders (over a period of 12 months or a lifetime) on meta-analyses were at least 1.5 times higher in lesbian, gay and bisexual people and alcohol and other substance dependence over 12 months was also 1.5 times higher."

    There was also further analysis in the subsets of gay females and gay males:
    "1) Lesbian and bisexual women were particularly at risk of substance dependence (alcohol 12 months: Relative Risk 4.00; drug dependence: Relative Risk 3.50; any substance use disorder Relative Risk 3.42)
    2) Lifetime prevalence of suicide attempt was especially high in gay and bisexual men Relative Risk 4.2."

    The study concluded that "LGB people are at higher risk of mental disorder, suicidal ideation, substance misuse, and deliberate self harm than heterosexual people."

    While this study demonstrates an increased risk for depression due to one's sexual orientation, the specific underlying causes (e.g., society, self-perception) have yet to be teased out.
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    Feb 07, 2011 5:09 AM GMT
    Disasterpiece saidNo.

    I think depression and the 21st century go hand in hand.


    +1
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    Feb 07, 2011 5:35 AM GMT
    Disasterpiece saidNo.

    I think depression and the 21st century go hand in hand.


    nailed it!
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    Feb 07, 2011 5:38 AM GMT
    No. I think a lot of depression is more situational, from some of the posts above.

    Being indoctrinated with 'that kind of love is wrong' when that kind of love is who you are is a pretty potent sadness maker.

    -Doug

  • Asmodeus

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    Feb 07, 2011 5:57 AM GMT
    not for me...:-)
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    Feb 07, 2011 6:19 AM GMT
    Does Depression and Being Gay go hand in hand

    Intrinsically, no. But if you listen to much of US society regarding gays, then yes. How could you not, with all the negative crap the Christian fundamentalists and political right-wingers invent about us? Believe that poison, and we'd all slit our wrists, as those people hope.

    On the contrary, my coming out gay RELIEVED any depression I may have had. It solved all the internal conflicts I had, answered a thousand questions that had nagged me about myself.

    Being a gay in denial is perhaps depressing -- being a gay who's out and accepted himself is fucking glorious! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 07, 2011 6:23 AM GMT
    I don't think it has to, but I do think that there is a greater opportunity for gays to fall into depression. Even the most centered gays had to go through some sort of struggle. In my own experience, I adopted a approach to life where I was always a survivor. I often internalize my feelings because I know that life will work out. But, that means the emotions you stow away today, will show themselves tomorrow. If you let the sink drip, it will eventually overflow.

  • Webster666

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    Feb 07, 2011 8:49 AM GMT
    Ariodante saidI cashed in my crippling depression for artistic eccentricity. Now instead of labeling myself as sad I just tell myself I'm misunderstood by the bourgeois masses!




    I love this post.

    I feel that the percentage of depressed gay men is most likely the same as for straight men.

    We have to make our own happiness.
    Some guys are able to do it themselves, and some guys might need medical help to get on the right path.
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    Feb 07, 2011 9:06 AM GMT
    stilsurchin saidmaybe we're all a bit fucked up from growing up in this homophoebic society...but how many of you suffer or suffered from Depression? Do you think there is a link to your sexuality?...................Keithicon_question.gif


    Yes. Yes, treatment of homosexuality. It doesn't really matter if physical violence is involved. Mental stress can be a lot more detrimental to someone's health than physical stress imo, especially over a long period of time and/or during development from child to adult.
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    Feb 07, 2011 9:20 AM GMT
    despite "more excepting" social constructs, I think gay people still have more of a struggle (generally) than their straight counterparts. That said, I also feel time/being truly out plays a large roll in self acceptance.
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    Feb 07, 2011 9:24 AM GMT
    stilsurchin saidmaybe we're all a bit fucked up from growing up in this homophoebic society...but how many of you suffer or suffered from Depression? Do you think there is a link to your sexuality?...................Keithicon_question.gif
    yup....so agree, in my case was married for 31 years, carry the guilt of hurting the person who was my best friend, loosing friends,house,bankruptcy, so i eat ..gain weight, more depressed just a vicous cycle...so i do agree that inpart it seems to be partially related
  • Anto

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    Feb 07, 2011 9:31 AM GMT
    res_ident saiddespite "more excepting" social constructs, I think gay people still have more of a struggle (generally) than their straight counterparts. That said, I also feel time/being truly out plays a large roll in self acceptance.


    I agree. It's not just self-acceptance though. There are two 'problems' with being gay. Dealing with it internally and then/also dealing with it externally. Even if you accept who you are as a homosexual person, it doesn't change problems that can and do happen externally as a result of being gay. It's a bit outside of a person's control, I think that is what makes it so stressful/problematic and wearing.
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    Feb 07, 2011 10:09 AM GMT
    In it funny that gay once meant happy, bright, fun Yet so many find no such things in being gay pure or not, in the gay communities No it's time us pure homosexuals move away fro that title/banner and liberate ourselves, go get a banner of our very own, as we are diffrent to our half brothers.icon_wink.gif
  • GQjock

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    Feb 07, 2011 10:23 AM GMT
    I think its more a common dysfunctional history that predisposes us to depression and other emotional problems
    Most of us grew up in a home that didn't know how to deal with or nurture a gay child
    and because of that we had to deal with things that our str8 counterparts didn't
    There was often shame and secrecy
    and at times mental and physical abuse
    Then you have the stumbling and bumbling of trying to live your life in a gay world
    which has it pitfalls
    and you have a recipe for emotional instability