radicalguy, you can definitely date if you're in the closet. I'm bi and sleep with both. I cant speak for Toronto because I have never visited, but in New York, its not too complicated. I will say that its a lot harder than dating women or being out and dating men for sure. My advice to you would be to watch the eyes, they always tell the truth. If you want to know what someone is interested in, just pay attention to what they look at. Even the most closeted will eventually let their guard down. I've caught and subsequently chatted up a few guys this way, and it has worked out most of the time. You'll find guys who are actually str8 and who are very friendly and like you as a friend, you'll find str8 guys who may fool around then disappear, you'll find closeted bi guys who hate themselves (one guy told me he was not gay while I was fucking him mid stroke! now that's deeeep in the closet), you'll also find guys who are just like you seem to be, exploring and open. I find that once I got over myself and the fear of being rejected or outed or something, it was way easier to approach guys. The problem is that because were not out, we will strike out more than if we were. Took awhile, but now Im seeing a guy who's like me. We go out with my friends, have a normal night, sometimes sneak an ass grab or a dick tug, sometimes bring a girl home, etc. Funny though how when we first started hooking up girls still hit on both of us, but now their first question is are you guys gay? I think it's in the eyes now and they can tell we look at each other differently. Best of luck and do u. Dont let people tell you that you have to burst out of the closet all at once because you don't. Take ur time, get comfortable with yourself first, then go chat up some goodlooking closeted dudes who are eying the hot bartender when they think no one is looking!