Fake Australian Study Shows: More speeding means safer highways

  • metta

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    Feb 08, 2011 8:18 AM GMT
    More speeding means safer highways

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  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 08, 2011 11:07 PM GMT
    Oh really?
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    Feb 08, 2011 11:14 PM GMT
    Yeah, but when they lose control and have an accident everything is smashed to smithereens ... including the innocent car they struck.

    So which is better...more smaller accidents or some lollapaloosas?
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    Feb 08, 2011 11:22 PM GMT
    I've been saying this for a long long time!!!

    "Speeders, rife with adrenaline, apparently have significantly reduced reaction times and increased hazard perception."

    It's about time people finally realize this.
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    Feb 08, 2011 11:24 PM GMT
    Caslon17000 saidYeah, but when they lose control and have an accident everything is smashed to smithereens ... including the innocent car they struck.

    So which is better...more smaller accidents or some lollapaloosas?
    That's like comparing small airplanes to jumbo jets.
    Small airplanes have about the same crash statistic as cars, but most crashes are survivable.
    Jumbo jets have a very low crash rate because they're safer and have more redundancy systems, but most crashes result in 100% fatality.

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    Feb 08, 2011 11:48 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Caslon17000 saidYeah, but when they lose control and have an accident everything is smashed to smithereens ... including the innocent car they struck.

    So which is better...more smaller accidents or some lollapaloosas?
    That's like comparing small airplanes to jumbo jets.
    Small airplanes have about the same crash statistic as cars, but most crashes are survivable.
    Jumbo jets have a very low crash rate because they're safer and have more redundancy systems, but most crashes result in 100% fatality.

    Which had you rather use for travel? icon_wink.gif

    I think you just made my point.
  • a303guy

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    Feb 09, 2011 12:11 AM GMT
    This Australian study backs up studies done here in the states, as we as in Europe, and ALL have had the same general finding - that innatentive driving causes both risk-taking and accidents, and that the best way to avoid inattentive driving is to give driver's a challenge. Since speed is still considered to be evil here in the states, the solution may be in making roads 'less straight' - and increase the use of roundabouts.
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    Feb 09, 2011 1:39 AM GMT
    a303guy said- and increase the use of roundabouts.
    OH GAWD NO!

    apparently you havent driven in Florida.. have you ever seen what happens when elderly drivers all encounter a roundabout at the same time?
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    Feb 09, 2011 1:56 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    a303guy said- and increase the use of roundabouts.
    OH GAWD NO!

    apparently you havent driven in Florida.. have you ever seen what happens when elderly drivers all encounter a roundabout at the same time?


    How true!!

    There is a roundabout in Clearwater Beach that even confuses me! I just proceed through, hit the horn and hope no one sideswipes me.

    The same is true for any 4-way stop in Florida. Since many Floridians cannot count beyond the number one, those are scary moments too. Many times I have to point to the driver who is to go next as they are so confused.......
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    Feb 09, 2011 1:57 AM GMT
    One Australian study does not refute several other studies:

    http://www.iihs.org/research/qanda/speed_limits.html Institute studies showed that deaths on rural interstates increased 25-30 percent when states began increasing speed limits from 55 to 65 mph in 1987. In 1989, about two-thirds of this increase — 19 percent, or 400 deaths — was attributed to increased speed, the rest to increased travel.13,14,15

    A 1999 Institute study of the effects of the 1995 repeal of the national maximum speed limit indicated this trend had continued. Researchers compared the numbers of motor vehicle occupant deaths in 24 states that raised speed limits during late 1995 and 1996 with corresponding fatality counts in the 6 years before the speed limits were changed, as well as fatality counts from 7 states that did not change speed limits. The Institute estimated a 15 percent increase in fatalities on interstates and freeways.16

    A 2002 study by researchers at the Land Transport Safety Authority of New Zealand also evaluated the effects of increasing rural interstate speed limits from 65 mph to either 70 or 75 mph. Based on deaths in states that did not change their speed limits, states that increased speed limits to 75 mph experienced 38 percent more deaths per million vehicle miles traveled than expected — an estimated 780 more deaths. States that increased speed limits to 70 mph experienced a 35 percent increase, resulting in approximately 1,100 more deaths.17

    A 2009 study examining the long-term effects of the 1995 repeal of the national speed limit found a 3 percent increase in road fatalities attributable to higher speed limits on all road types, with the highest increase of 9 percent on rural interstates. The authors estimated that 12,545 deaths were attributed to increases in speed limits across the US.18

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    Feb 09, 2011 2:00 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidI've been saying this for a long long time!!!

    "Speeders, rife with adrenaline, apparently have significantly reduced reaction times and increased hazard perception."

    It's about time people finally realize this.


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  • dannyboy1101

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    Feb 09, 2011 2:22 AM GMT
    I do second this sentiment. I fully believe that all traffic jams in Chicago where there are many all result from the butterfly effect of one bastard unnecessarily pressing his brakes.

    My thought is no speed limits on expressways (who follows them anyways). Limit is keeping up with traffic we can say. Those who feel the need for speed can do what they wish and the cautious people can do what they wish believing in their abilities hopefully appropriately. More behind the wheel instruction time to enhance said abilities with instructors not parents who don't follow the rules either and know crap about teaching. If the expressway scares u then don't take it. Stay out of the way on the city streets. By putting numbers on limits some will follow it exactly by braking when they go over by 1 and some will completely ignore it without consequences. Take the cops off the speeders and maybe they can catch the drunks and the gangbangers shooting each other in turf wars.
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    Feb 09, 2011 2:47 AM GMT
    THIS IS A SCAM! icon_lol.gif

    OK, if you click through the link in the article, it'll send you to a bogus link, and here's the scam:

    http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/speed-scammers-stir-up-media-storm-20110209-1amaf.html
    Speed scammers stir up media storm
    Barry Park
    February 9, 2011 - 1:05PM

    Web-based tricksters are building up a media frenzy calling for higher speed limits in Australia.

    A bogus research company is fooling the media into believing it supports a bid to increase road speed limits throughout Australia.

    A group calling itself HighRoad Automotive Research — which uses anagrams of Top Gear presenters as authors for a research paper it has published online.

    The paper - penned by a bogus research team including authors Jeremy James, Clark Hammond and Richard Mayson - suggests that encouraging speeding on our roads makes for better drivers.

    The website was created last week and is hosted in the US, although links trace back to Sydney where the group is represented by people named Jane Hannity and Dr Peter Zachariou. A mobile phone contact number posted on the site links through to Hannity's voicemail.

    Several online media sites have already reported the findings of the bogus report as fact, while ABC radio in Hobart yesterday interviewed one of the people behind the scam before realising something was wrong and pulling the plug.

    ''The study shows that as travel speed increases so did the focus of the driver on their surroundings,'' the bogus report says.

    ''The elevated perception of danger triggers an endocrine reaction within the brain, forcing the individual to play closer attention to objects moving around the vehicle.

    ''Even relatively small increases in vehicle speed can result in substantial increases in spatial acuity and response time,'' it says.

    It also proposes that demerit points and fines should be imposed for those people driving at speeds below the limit.

    The report claims that inner-city speed limits need to lift from the current 40km/h to a recommended speed of 60km/h, while at the other extreme freeways should have speed limits of at least 130km/h.

    A spokeswoman for Top Gear Australia said neither the magazine's publisher or the editor-in-chief knew anything about the scam.

    ''Maybe I'll be on Media Watch,'' ABC 936 afternoon host Ryk Goddard lamented after winding up yesterday's interview. ''I hope not.''
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    Feb 09, 2011 2:51 AM GMT
    Do a google search on "highroadauto.org" and you'll end up with the scam warning.

    Thank you metta, for showing us the foibles of believing everything the OP says without clicking through. icon_lol.gif
  • barriehomeboy

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    Feb 09, 2011 3:02 AM GMT
    I'm a medical professional. We have jobs and put food on the table because of all the stupid people out there. If they cure human stupidity, those of us employed by hospitals will be out of work. We love that you smoke and develop cancer. We love that you eat until you can't stop and bloat your bodies to the point where your organs shut down. Our ICU's are full of people like you. Those people in the funny videos on the country music channel that flip the ATV over on themselves? They're strapped to backboards and I'm doing their XRays a few hours after they are brought into Emergency in an ambulance.
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    Feb 09, 2011 3:25 AM GMT
    Ok metta, at the risk of being redundant, THERE IS NO STUDY! It's not even controversial because it doesn't exist except in the minds of some sick Australian guys and their poor duped victims. It also reinforces all kinds of bad behavior which real research shows is bad.
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    Feb 09, 2011 3:26 AM GMT
    I knew it!
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    Feb 09, 2011 3:29 AM GMT
    What a RIDICULOUS article. Aussies (of which I am one) - you can do better.
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    Feb 09, 2011 3:34 AM GMT
    Slow traffic keep right stay the fuck home. icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 09, 2011 3:56 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    a303guy said- and increase the use of roundabouts.
    OH GAWD NO!

    apparently you havent driven in Florida.. have you ever seen what happens when elderly drivers all encounter a roundabout at the same time?



    IMO and experience...it's when 81 meets 18...



    an 81 year old (doing 25mph) meets an 18 year old (doing 95mph) on the road and all hell breaks loose!
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