Marriage Equality Children's Book

  • metta

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    Feb 08, 2011 9:16 AM GMT
    Marriage Equality Children's Book


    http://www.myuncleswedding.com/



    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Marriage-Equality-Childrens-Book-My-Uncles-Wedding/127316090670414?v=wall
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    Feb 08, 2011 12:38 PM GMT
    icon_eek.gificon_mad.gif NNNNOOOO Please NO. I swear these people do not understand. Now this is just more fuel to add to people that believe in a homosexual agenda. What is going on with the "Gay Rights" Movement?

    I have no problem with you OP please really I know it seems weird, but understand that I spend a lot of time on Anti-Gay sites NOT because I agree with them, but because I want to know why they feel and believe the negative things they do about Homosexuals. They already believe that Homosexuals are infiltrating schools with propaganda, just wait till a site like "massresistance" gets hold of this...

    And Why Two Men, but not Two Women? Because Lesbians are more accepted than Gay Males, thus creating more controversy.

    Read the best rated comments on this article:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1225210/Gay-marriage-rejected-31-U-S-states-vote-Maine-gives-legislation-thumbs-down.html

    The word "marriage", throughout the history of the English language, has NEVER applied to homosexual relationships. Sorry, but we're just not going to re-write the dictionary to suit the PC brigade. No one is telling anyone they can't be together.

    - Tom Penn, Knoxville, USA, 4/11/2009 12:42


    I think it's right. A vast majority of people in private think gay marriage is wrong and this transpires when there is a vote. But, I think many people in public are scared to say it because they will be immediately attacked and called a "bigot" just for disagreeing.

    - Ian, North East, Uk, 4/11/2009 12:55

    The argument - "This is between me and my husband, and because it doesn't affect you or your heterosexual marriage - stop denying me mine" fails to take into account that it does affect others. It affects others considerably more than what the gay lobby is willing to tell. The gay lobby insists on our moral and legal support, and that's a massive affect they're trying to effect in others. As we can see in the news item above, Carla and Victoria try to promote same sex marriage by saying, "Our relationship is between us, It's a personal thing.", but it isn't just between them, a personal thing, when demanding moral and legal support from the vast heterosexual majority. Far from it.

    - Bill, luton, 4/11/2009 13:25
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    Feb 08, 2011 12:46 PM GMT
    sigh what I'm trying to say is that when you spend a lot of time getting to "know"" your enemy you know what makes them tick, what fuels them etc. A lot of the people on anti-gay sites are really paranoid and have had it up to here with gay related issues. They make it there personal mission to keep track of every little thing that occurs in gay related news, and they see it as "propognada" and shoving it down their throats, when the mere idea of children is involved this feeling is amplified by 1000.

    I'm not saying the Author has ill intentions in mind. The is probably innocently trying to get children to understand current events because they are reachable, but stilll

    Never mind good for him and the book. Let's just hope extremist groups wont eventually attack this guy...icon_sad.gif
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    Feb 08, 2011 10:26 PM GMT
    This is just really dumb and it just increases the perception of the "gay agenda" among ignorant people. Some people being gay is a reality of life, yes and all gays should be at least tolerated, but making a book to promote it for children is just pointless. Being gay is not something to want to be or aspire to, it just happens from time to time. If I had kids, honestly, I would want them to be straight because I'd like grandkids one day maybe. If they turn out gay, oh well, all is swell.
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    Feb 08, 2011 10:41 PM GMT
    lawl

    Writing a childrens book about gay marriage isn't promotion, it's education. The idea that anyone should cater to the more ignorant persons of society is what is really stupid. It's almost like saying that children shouldn't be taught evolution because it may offend creationists. Who cares?

    The difference between the two is that this isn't going to be a part of any child's curriculum. This is just going to be a book in the library that the majority of the population won't even know exist.

    You think it's dumb to educate children about tolerance? But it's good to avoid doing so so that it doesn't appear as though gay people have an agenda? What agenda? Getting people to stop needlessly hating them?
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    Feb 09, 2011 12:52 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidThis is just really dumb and it just increases the perception of the "gay agenda" among ignorant people. Some people being gay is a reality of life, yes and all gays should be at least tolerated, but making a book to promote it for children is just pointless. Being gay is not something to want to be or aspire to, it just happens from time to time. If I had kids, honestly, I would want them to be straight because I'd like grandkids one day maybe. If they turn out gay, oh well, all is swell.



    Thank you for understanding what I was trying to say I wasn't trying to come off as rude, mean or hostile to the OP, but to an outsider who does not want to understand Homosexuality this book would not cast Homosexuality in a more favorable light. It would look more like propaganda.

    I don't want children, but I personally wouldn't care what sexuality they are, but I just think kids should be kids and shouldn't be influenced by politics, especially not identity politics at such a young age.

    Lets just hope sites "massresistance" and "americansfortruthabouthomosexuality " don't get a hold of this.
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    Feb 09, 2011 12:56 AM GMT
    Observe. The posters who are against this are photo-less, or will probably be headless torsos if more respond. Internalized homophobia babe, deal with it.
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    Feb 09, 2011 8:17 PM GMT
    wrestlervic saidObserve. The posters who are against this are photo-less, or will probably be headless torsos if more respond. Internalized homophobia babe, deal with it.


    Yeah me, I'm headless. Looks like someone is really paying attention.
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    Feb 09, 2011 8:23 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    wrestlervic saidObserve. The posters who are against this are photo-less, or will probably be headless torsos if more respond. Internalized homophobia babe, deal with it.


    Yeah me, I'm headless. Looks like someone is really paying attention.


    Maybe he meant heartless?
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    Feb 09, 2011 9:02 PM GMT
    I imagine the only reason one would have for getting really upset by this book is because they have a fundamental problem with gay marriage and likely even civil unions.

    There is nothing wrong with a children's book attempting (in an appropriate way) to explain to a child the world around it. Inevitably some kids will end up having a gay uncle and of those gay uncles, some will seek to marry or enter into a civil union. This book could be a means for a parent to explain that scenario to their child.

    Who gives a shit what the perception is among ignorant people? They're not likely to accept us any time soon anyway. No rational human being is going to see this as a means of indoctrination. No reasonable person is going to argue this book made their child gay.

    Here's a thought, if you don't like it don't buy it and don't read it to your kids! The market will decide the level of success (or lack thereof) for this book.
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    Feb 09, 2011 9:13 PM GMT
    DodgedBullet, I agree wholeheartedly with your point about wanting to understand our opponents and to have sensitivity and empathy for how they might see things and possibly misconstrue them. Furthermore, if there is any attempt to place this book in school curricula OR public libraries, I will object right along with you.

    However, if all we are discussing is the mere EXISTENCE of a book like this, then not only do I have no objection, I think it's a good thing! There is a definite need for books like this for families who WANT one for their kids.

    If the intolerant can publish their anti-gay screeds, we can certainly publish our pro-gay ones. :-)
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    Feb 09, 2011 9:34 PM GMT
    DodgedBullet saidhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1225210/Gay-marriage-rejected-31-U-S-states-vote-Maine-gives-legislation-thumbs-down.html


    It should also be noted that the newspaper you linked to, the Daily Mail, is a British tabloid that is notoriously both sensationalistic and homophobic. Therefore, the general slant of both the article itself (like putting "marriage" in scare quotes) and most of the comments is not surprising. Look at some of the other crap on that site. It's like the National Enquirer here in the USA. I doubt that it is representative of the majority of Britons.
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    Feb 09, 2011 9:38 PM GMT
    UpperCanadian said
    mocktwinkie said
    wrestlervic saidObserve. The posters who are against this are photo-less, or will probably be headless torsos if more respond. Internalized homophobia babe, deal with it.


    Yeah me, I'm headless. Looks like someone is really paying attention.


    Maybe he meant heartless?
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    Silly. I'm not heartless. I'm very much for helping people. I'm even on the board for a community group that does fundraisers to help a variety of causes and charities as well as social events. Not sure why I would be considered heartless.
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    Feb 09, 2011 9:51 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    UpperCanadian said
    mocktwinkie said
    wrestlervic saidObserve. The posters who are against this are photo-less, or will probably be headless torsos if more respond. Internalized homophobia babe, deal with it.


    Yeah me, I'm headless. Looks like someone is really paying attention.


    Maybe he meant heartless?
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    Silly. I'm not heartless. I'm very much for helping people. I'm even on the board for a community group that does fundraisers to help a variety of causes and charities as well as social events. Not sure why I would be considered heartless.



    But you don't have a reflection in mirrors. icon_eek.gif


    silly handsome man, everyone knows conservatives gots no hearts, or no souls (or their socks are too tight)

    They catch fire in direct sunlight and something about not getting them wet after midnight.
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    Feb 09, 2011 10:07 PM GMT
    lol, where have some of you been living?

    Here's one from 2004.

    http://booksforkidsingayfamilies.blogspot.com/2009/11/one-dad-two-dads-brown-dad-blue-dads.html


    ...and here's one from the year Bill and I met in 1989

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heather_Has_Two_Mommies


    ...ah yes, freedom of speech, eh?

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    Feb 09, 2011 10:11 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidThis is just really dumb and it just increases the perception of the "gay agenda" among ignorant people. Some people being gay is a reality of life, yes and all gays should be at least tolerated, but making a book to promote it for children is just pointless. Being gay is not something to want to be or aspire to, it just happens from time to time. If I had kids, honestly, I would want them to be straight because I'd like grandkids one day maybe. If they turn out gay, oh well, all is swell.



    If you do have kids and they turn out gay, they'll enjoy reading this I'm sure, now that it's on the world wide web forever. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Read the book first and then explain where it says kids should aspire to being gay.

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    Feb 09, 2011 10:13 PM GMT


    UpperCanadian, it's the US where human rights are publicly voted on and if passed, can be repealed with another public vote.

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    Feb 09, 2011 10:14 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    UpperCanadian said
    mocktwinkie said
    wrestlervic saidObserve. The posters who are against this are photo-less, or will probably be headless torsos if more respond. Internalized homophobia babe, deal with it.


    Yeah me, I'm headless. Looks like someone is really paying attention.


    Maybe he meant heartless?
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    Silly. I'm not heartless. I'm very much for helping people. I'm even on the board for a community group that does fundraisers to help a variety of causes and charities as well as social events. Not sure why I would be considered heartless.


    lol, there are a lot of heartless people sitting in the pews at church too.
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    Feb 10, 2011 12:26 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidThis is just really dumb and it just increases the perception of the "gay agenda" among ignorant people.


    Mock, just to be certain you're not throwing me for a loop the way Socal did on another thread, is this you're genuine opinion on the matter?

    Usually when I disagree with you I at least see where you're coming from but I admit, here I have no clue. Are we really supposed to take into consideration the opinions of those who are already hostile to us, regardless of what we do, before taking any action?

    Some gay couples have children, as might their heterosexual relatives. Why would a book that reflects the reality of their family life be a dumb thing?

    Chiding the book out of the fear that those who don't like us will like us even less because of it seems a bit cowardly to me. I do not believe you to be a coward, ergo the confusion. So... what's up with this?
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    Feb 10, 2011 3:10 AM GMT
    For years, children's books didn't reflect the realities of divorce, single parent families, etc. which made many children feel like they were "abnormal".

    I don't see this as promoting anything. But maybe it might make the many millions of children being raised by same-sex couples feel like their families too are just fine.

    It is depressing that so many of you are so unenlightened.
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    Feb 10, 2011 2:30 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie saidThis is just really dumb and it just increases the perception of the "gay agenda" among ignorant people.


    Mock, just to be certain you're not throwing me for a loop the way Socal did on another thread, is this you're genuine opinion on the matter?

    Usually when I disagree with you I at least see where you're coming from but I admit, here I have no clue. Are we really supposed to take into consideration the opinions of those who are already hostile to us, regardless of what we do, before taking any action?

    Some gay couples have children, as might their heterosexual relatives. Why would a book that reflects the reality of their family life be a dumb thing?

    Chiding the book out of the fear that those who don't like us will like us even less because of it seems a bit cowardly to me. I do not believe you to be a coward, ergo the confusion. So... what's up with this?


    I was under some impression that this was a book being promoted in schools for children in general. It wasn't titled "my gay parents", but rather "my gay uncle" which made me think that it's intended to be promoted for children in general. I have no problem with the book existing for access.
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    Feb 10, 2011 6:33 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said

    I was under some impression that this was a book being promoted in schools for children in general. It wasn't titled "my gay parents", but rather "my gay uncle" which made me think that it's intended to be promoted for children in general. I have no problem with the book existing for access.


    Understood. Thanks for clearing that up.
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    Feb 10, 2011 7:58 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidI was under some impression that this was a book being promoted in schools for children in general. It wasn't titled "my gay parents", but rather "my gay uncle" which made me think that it's intended to be promoted for children in general. I have no problem with the book existing for access.


    Don't real children have gay uncles? Why shouldn't they be represented in the books they read? [as opposed to your shrill and myopic worldview]
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    Feb 10, 2011 8:25 PM GMT
    I KNOW what you mean DodgedBullet.

    BUT I believe the truth is... that it is true that we do want to change the next generation's perception and our oponents know it. Not taking actions to educate and promote the OKness of gay relationships to all age groups (with appropriate contents) isn't going to stop the usual suspects from yelling "bloody murder!" anyway. We may as well do it.

    Love this comment you quoted:

    DodgedBullet saidThe word "marriage", throughout the history of the English language, has NEVER applied to homosexual relationships. Sorry, but we're just not going to re-write the dictionary to suit the PC brigade. No one is telling anyone they can't be together.


    That ship left the port years ago... icon_rolleyes.gif

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    Feb 10, 2011 8:28 PM GMT
    OMG anytime I have seen anything like this down here, it has had to do with lesbians, and never gays. It seems promoting two women as parents is more acceptable than gays two men, promoting lesbianism is more palatable than two guys anytime. But then lesbians have never had the fight for acceptance, liberation, freedom that us pure homosexuals the real gays have had either, because two women can never have sexual intercourse/penetration the way two men can; not unless they use artificial penetration, and thats still not the same. Thus they have not had the same depth to come up from, but men have carried them forward in their advancement with our own.

    No promoting two daddy's is not as politically correct as promoting two mummy's, after all they can't have sex like us guys can they now; thus not the fight we have had.